The Definitive IR Thread! (page 21)

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pabloescobar Member 35 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 9:04PM IR is fun to watch. I imagine my ex-wife getting her snatch full of black dick then trying to live it down later. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 9:58PM ^ So, you're saying that her having sex with a black guy would be considered a bad thing? Or a shameful thing? And it would be considered as such by whom? Herself? Her friends or family? You? [Link]
Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User 56 Posts 5/10	Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 11:38PM however wrote: I don't think this has been mentioned in this thread, but Diana Prince did her first IR (including IR anal and a DP) this year and has a second coming out soon. Here is a link, a pic, and her own comments on the subject. Happy New Year. Interracial Swingers 3 I also did my first interracial scene (which happened to also be a DP when I was still sick…Why can’t people ever let me fully heal before they shoot these things?? ). This has long been a sore subject for me. When I first started in the biz, my agent told me to never do IR. I was actually shocked to learn it was considered taboo. I just assumed that white/black/Hispanic/Asian/Klingon/whatever was all the same in the world of porn. Of course, though, now I realize I was very, very wrong (unfortunately). So, due to Mr. Agent Man’s advice, I put off doing it, and turned down a lot of IR work (even though it really did hurt me every time. (. I’ve also been told that there are certain companies that won’t hire you if you do IR, and clubs in “certain areas” that won’t let you feature if you shoot it. (And being from those “certain areas” I can see where that might very well be true.) But I’ve felt so much guilt over this for so long, that I finally just decided it was time to evolve, and let the chips fall where they may. If certain people don’t like me and don’t want to work with me any longer bc of the color of some of my co-stars’ skin, that’s really sad, pathetic, and not something I want to condone, any way. (Side note: I know some people hold off doing IR or anal or whatever else it is they don’t really want to do until they get really desperate and start trying to extend their career. This is sooooooo not my case. I never do anything -including porn in the first place- just for the $$. ) Click to expand Diana Prince is such a down to earth person, and it takes people like her to expose this dirty little secret that is hidden by any angle they can come up with. Some of these girls support a goofy racial agenda that had run its course 30 years ago, unfortunately the guys running these companies aren't dead yet. People are people. My money will always support the girls who work with whoever makes the hottest scene, everybody else will be ignored. [Link]
pabloescobar Member 35 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 12:50AM Although I'm not attracted to black women, she was the one that really didn't like black guys. Her parents would shit themselves, so it would be a blast to see her try to explain that one. Especially a black baby! [Link]

killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 12:55AM ^ That makes me sad for both her and her parents. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 2:34AM ^ I'll be sad for the baby instead however wrote: So, due to Mr. Agent Man’s advice, I put off doing it, and turned down a lot of IR work (even though it really did hurt me every time. (. I’ve also been told that there are certain companies that won’t hire you if you do IR, and clubs in “certain areas” that won’t let you feature if you shoot it. (And being from those “certain areas” I can see where that might very well be true.) I know some people hold off doing IR or anal or whatever else it is they don’t really want to do until they get really desperate and start trying to extend their career. This is sooooooo not my case. I never do anything -including porn in the first place- just for the $$. ) Click to expand I think that these two parts of what she said sum up the problem very well , racism could be an issue foe some , porn environment is no different from real life, racism in fact does exist, but it is also true that doing IR limit some starlets ability to earn money especially those who aren't names when they tour dancing or even when they escort. That has been said and is not racism at least not on starlets part , not always, a worker must save his/her source of incomes. The last part says that you can do IR in two cases you're big enough to give them a fuck and do whatever you please or you're so desperate for money that you must accept anything in both cases those racists clubs aren't an issue because they aren't their main source of incomes because either you don't need to tour there or you're not requested. Agents behavior is a little more complicated they got a percentage from stars so even though I might understand their concern not to waste a potential not knowing how a career will last or will end , but this could be accepted at first , but not in the long distance or even the whole career that would only prevent interracial relations and should be called for what it is : racism Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/2/2012 2:39:45 AM [Link]
Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User 56 Posts 5/10	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 3:03AM Laurie Cameron Fan wrote: ^ I'll be sad for the baby instead however wrote: So, due to Mr. Agent Man’s advice, I put off doing it, and turned down a lot of IR work (even though it really did hurt me every time. (. I’ve also been told that there are certain companies that won’t hire you if you do IR, and clubs in “certain areas” that won’t let you feature if you shoot it. (And being from those “certain areas” I can see where that might very well be true.) I know some people hold off doing IR or anal or whatever else it is they don’t really want to do until they get really desperate and start trying to extend their career. This is sooooooo not my case. I never do anything -including porn in the first place- just for the $$. ) Click to expand I think that these two parts of what she said sum up the problem very well , racism could be an issue foe some , porn environment is no different from real life, racism in fact does exist, but it is also true that doing IR limit some starlets ability to earn money especially those who aren't names when they tour dancing or even when they escort. That has been said and is not racism at least not on starlets part , not always, a worker must save his/her source of incomes. The last part says that you can do IR in two cases you're big enough to give them a fuck and do whatever you please or you're so desperate for money that you must accept anything in both cases those racists clubs aren't an issue because they aren't their main source of incomes because either you don't need to tour there or you're not requested. Agents behavior is a little more complicated they got a percentage from stars so even though I might understand their concern not to waste a potential not knowing how a career will last or will end , but this could be accepted at first , but not in the long distance or even the whole career that would only prevent interracial relations and should be called for what it is : racism Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/2/2012 2:39:45 AM Click to expand At the heart of this are people who have a problem with race-mixing, and the powers that be ARE those people, they support favoring that behavior and it's more than obvious. We need more women like Diana Prince who out these idiots so they can't continue to play in the dark. People are people. Edited by - mr_heatmiser on 1/2/2012 3:11:06 AM [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 7:42AM ^ You do understand that any woman has freedom to choose right? If you say that a woman should do IR or being labeled racist or in some way she's supporting racism than you're removing that right because you're enforcing a choice, imposing I might say. [Link]
Interracial_Sex3 Deactivated User 13 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 8:20AM Laurie Cameron Fan wrote: ^ You do understand that any woman has freedom to choose right? If you say that a woman should do IR or being labeled racist or in some way she's supporting racism than you're removing that right because you're enforcing a choice, imposing I might say. Click to expand This is such a LAME and BS excuse that has been trotted out by White RACISTS in the industry and racist pornfans who don't like to see white women perform with BLACK MEN,.. But this same excuse completly vanishes when the male subject co-performer is either Asian, Indian, Arab, Hispanic and White regardless of how they look. If and only IF a White male performer is on a white girl's 'NO LIST', it's because he has a very very bad reputation with women ie. Max Hardcore. Have you ever heard a female performer trot out that lame excuse to refuse working with someone like the Minion, Ron Jeremy or some other old, fat, ugly unshapely and unfit White male preformer??? NO. But racist agents or racist pornfan alike are quick to peddle that sh*t when the male in question is a handsome looking Blackman with known good reputations like Mr Marcus & Lex Steele, Sean Michaels etc. Edited by - Interracial_Sex3 on 1/2/2012 8:29:00 AM [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 8:48AM ^ How do you know for sure that no star is refusing to do porn with Arabs or Chinese or Whatever? How many arabian pornstuds are out there? I know only of Zenza Raggi who is Moroccan (I believe he was born in Casablanca) Anyway you can't escape the simple question, Has a star the right to refuse a sexual act she is not willing to perform? Ha a star the right to refuse to perform with someone she don't like? just answer Yes or Not also there are black ladies who only perform with black guys they have been mentioned in this thread , apparently you are perfectly fine with that. It seem to me that you're only interested into forcing by social and other pressures white women to fuck black guys even if they don't want to. You don't seem equally eager to resolve other racially related problems such as black fucking black only, that is fine for you. It is surely fine for me I support the right of free choices whatever they are , even if I don't like 'em and especially when I don't like 'em. The very moment you consider your own thoughts and ideas the right thing to do and want everybody to comply to them then democracy is doomed [Link]
pabloescobar Member 35 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 9:37AM I saw a similar argument on another forum. And just as it's explained above it was a racist divide. If you wouldn't bang a black dude you are racist. If you don't like IR you are racist. What a cop out to reality! It's similarly played off that all women should want work outside the home. A housewife should only be a temporary job. Let's go slow some of you people. 1) I do not like Indian food. To ME IME is the key word) it's awful! Now, if you manage to come up with an argument for that you are a giant douche and please stop reading because nothing else will make sense to you. 2) I am not turned on by Black (or Asian) chicks. I've been to my share of strip joints, malls, WalMarts and seen more than a few videos and seen all sorts of these women in them. They rarely if ever do anything for the schlong. Am I racist? Two of my best friends are Indian and black so I kind of think not. Why would I or anyone be a racist because you don't like something based on personal choice? It simply what appeals to me. I like IR for the reason above. When I look at the actors in porns I often will ask myself if they are attractive, and not that porn is known for handsome dudes, it has been getting better. There are less Ron Jeremy's floating around. When I look at the black actors (or my friend) I rarely see a handsome face. It's again personal taste and if I were into blowing dudes I probably wouldn't seek out black dudes. It's again personal taste. I'm not saying anything about whether they are capable or have the same rights, just that they don't appeal to me. I think some this same thinking is used against woman who want "traditional" wife roles. The women's movement was about choice! Don't let anyone take that away. [Link]
hero1978 New Member 1 Posts 1/12	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 12:06PM Has Julia Ann done anything on film with Shorty Mac? [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 12:27PM ^ Not according to IAFD. [Link]
Interracial_Sex3 Deactivated User 13 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 12:45PM MOD: interracial_sex3 - If you are indeed the newcomer that you insist you are, please familiarize yourself with Adult DVD Talk's Forum Etiquette before you post further. Thank you. Edited by - Roads To Moscow on 1/2/2012 2:36:20 PM [Link]

LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 2:17PM Interracial_Sex3 wrote: Click to expand YAWN!, Here you go again with your LAME BORING BS COPOUT EXCUSE. No1. That was my 2nd post on this forum and my 1st on this particular thread. I haven’t read the previous post regarding Black women fucking Black men only so don't try to put words in my mouth and guess how I think. No2. FYI, This is a WORK situation, its not about personal choices so everyone woman should fuck who their contracted to work with as long as the male in question has been fully checked, clean and has a good reputation REGARDLESS OF RACE. No3. I find it hypocritical that guys like you regularly watch interracial porn but yet still fully support anti Black racism and all it's ugly practises. No4. I am not the one interested in forcing your precious white girls to fuck Black men. It's white racist porn agents, racist porn fans and white hypocritical IR watchers like YOU that are forcing your own white girls to AVOID working with Black man. You need to stop using GOP spin-doctor tactics to make you perpetrators look like the innocent party and we the culprits. We can all see through all your BS. No5. You chose to ignore the fact that American porn is the ONLY industry where anti Black racism is allowed, but yet it's classed and a liberal industry. HOW IRONIC. No6. By skimming some of your posts on this thread, it's apparent that you fully prescribe to the laughable excuse that racist porn agents force their white porn-starlets to say when questioned why they refuse to work with Black men:- “I only work with guys that I'm attracted to” Mmmm. Now let's put that joke excuse to the test shall we?. OK, are these white women trying to say they are attracted to:- The Minion, Dave Cummings, Ron Jeremy, Dirty Harry??. Well they work with them don't they?. Are the girls trying to say they'll walk hand in hand down a busy street with any of them dudes mentioned if they weren't famous?? OH PLEESE!!!! Edited by - Interracial_Sex3 on 1/2/2012 1:40:07 PM Click to expand 1)It doesn't matter how many posts you put in here , I told you something but you ignored the point , also you're talking about racism in porn I assumed you're informed or at least bother enough to get information about it , not BS taken out from nowhere 2) Exactly it is a work situation not slavery and a worker has some right and no it's not the way you said , a worker has still free choices , also some porn workers has been married or had a romance or are in bad terms between them , all these has THE RIGHT to refuse to work with each other , others are brothers and sister and they too have the right to refuse to work with each others, also a performer doesn't sign a blank contract usually a contract has terms in it and these terms have to be accepted by both parts, furthermore a star is represented by her agent which has or should have instructions to comply with. Last but not least, not even a soldier has to obey blindly. Why a porn performer can't discuss what she's requested to do? 3)I don't support any anti black racism , I support freedom of choice and that is in both directions I would say exactly the same things if the topic was about black girls refusing whites boys they also have freedom of choices. I found very interesting that you know that I regularly watch IR porn , I didn't say that in my last posts , very imaginative on your part , yet you didn't read this topic before posting.. 4) I have no interest in protecting racist or any kind of racism , still any performer has the right to do what she want without being harassed by those who absolutely deny this right and want them fuck whatever black asks them to. 5)It is true though that in Europe we don't have issues like that , if a star don't want to perform with a black she simply don't , the agents here don't give a fuck about what kind of skin a performer has, they don't do anything to prevent them from fucking anyone. I don't defend any "precious white" girl I don't mind at all who they fuck, it their choice , not mine , if a woman wants to fuck black guys I'd fully support her , I can even fight to guarantee her right to fuck whoever she wants. 6) I supported those laughable excuses? When? How? besides there are girl doing watersports out there which is worse than fucking Ron Jeremy , but again can you name some girl who refuses to do IR and actually worked in a minion scene? You skimmed my posts here but not those where was said about blacks working with blacks only, very interesting. still the questions remain has a porn performer freedom of choice? Must she be forced to do something she doesn't wan to do? c'mon it's a very simple question yes or no [Link]
Interracial_Sex3 Deactivated User 13 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 2:42PM Laurie Cameron Fan wrote: still the questions remain has a porn performer freedom of choice? Must she be forced to do something she doesn't wan to do? c'mon it's a very simple question yes or no Click to expand We're talking about a WORK situation right? Well the answer is pretty simple. IF and only IF, her refusal is solely based on RACE, then she should kicked out of the industry, point blank. Let's make it simple for you. If you are in a working environment and you had racist ideologies that has not been detected at your interview stage, BUT once in the job, it gets played out against some Black employees that you're instructed to work with. YOU WILL BE FIRED, POINT BLACK. Companies get taken into court for racist practices against ethnic employees, porn is an industry. It should be no different. Laurie Cameron Fan, PLEASE don't mix personal with professional, there's a big difference. Edited by - Interracial_Sex3 on 1/2/2012 2:51:30 PM [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 3:09PM A woman who refuses to have sex with whatever man can hardly be considered racist and fired even if it is solely based on race, quite the contrary those who try to force her to do that might be arrested for extortion it would be at least mobbing also a free agent or a free agency cannot be fired who would do? They are the owners, aren't they? what part of the difference between a worker and a slave you can't understand? I assume you're black you should know how important is the freedom of choice you should be the first on earth to understand that nobody should be forced to do something he or she don't wont to for whatever reason, nobody. that is the difference from a human being and a machine, from a free man and a slave , the right to choose.It's called Freedom Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/2/2012 3:15:58 PM [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 3:20PM Alright folks, I think some of you aren't understanding each other. On one hand we have someone saying girls are giving bullshit excuses for why they're not performing in scenes with black males. On the other hand we have someone saying girls shouldn't be forced to perform in scenes with black males. These are not two sides of the same discussion. These are completely different discussions. I think people need to understand that before this continues. ************************************ Now, here's my input: 1. Sometimes bullshit excuses are given as to why a particular girl does not perform in scenes with black males. But not all the time. It does indeed seem dubious when a girl says she only performs in scenes with men she's attracted to (and since she's not attracted to black men, she won't perform with them), and then she goes and performs in a scene with a man she says she's not attracted to (like RJ, or the Minion, for example). I mean you have a girl saying, in her own words, that she will not perform in a scene with someone she's not attracted to, and also saying that she has just performed in a scene with someone she's not attracted to. It's impossible not to identify that as inconsistent. Increasingly, we are being made aware of agents either explicitly forbidding their girls to do scenes with black males, or at least strongly advising against it. Certain agencies that I will not name right now seem to be more infamous for doing this than others, but the fact remains that some girls are rejecting this order/advice right away, some are rejecting this after obeying for several years, and some never reject it. We can get into all sorts of discussions about why certain girls make one decision and others make a different one, but it seems clear enough that the racism in porn can often go beyond just what porn girls think about black males. But in this case (which I believe is far more common than we realize), the question of choice is no longer about whether she has the right to choose not to work with black males; now the choice is about whether she has the right to reject the order/advice of her agent. 2. It is impossible to eliminate discussions of money in all of this. As was highlighted in Diana Prince's statement posted above, working with a black male may mean a girl cannot feature dance in certain clubs. Certain studios won't hire you to shoot movies for them. In another discussion here at ADT, it was pointed out that many of the cable companies won't buy porn flicks that have any scenes with a black male and a white female in them, so the studios who want to sell to cable companies will have to think long and hard about whether they want to make movies with those scenes in them. In pre-WWII Germany if an establishment were to do business with Jews, they risked Germans who were sympathetic to the Nazi cause boycotting their business. That may mean losing enough customers that they would go out of business. Now, in the above paragraph, replace "pre-WWII Germany" with "the US porn industry"; replace "an establishment" with "a porn girl"; replace "do business with Jews" with "have sex with a black male on camera"; replace "Germans who were sympathetic to the Nazi cause" with "racist American porn buyers"; replace "business" with "movies"; replace "go out of business" with "not get hired enough to make it in porn". Now you have the paragraph: In the US porn industry, if a porn girl were to have sex with a black male on camera, they risked racist American porn buyers boycotting their movies. That may mean losing enough customers that they would not get hired enough to make it in porn. OK, so that's the decision the girls are presented with by the agents. As you can see, it's not an easy decision. The question remains though: is this situation the truth?** Well, there is of course some truth to it, but would the girls really lose so much that they would not make it in the porn biz? What about all the customers they would gain by attracting black porn buyers, or simply buyers of whatever race/ethnicity who want to see them perform with a black male? I would submit that the amount they lose is not nearly so much as they are being led to believe. Otherwise all of those famous porn stars who do work with black males wouldn't have become famous. I need only mention Tori Black to show how flawed the model is. [Link]
Interracial_Sex3 Deactivated User 13 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 3:58PM Laurie Cameron Fan wrote: A woman who refuses to have sex with whatever man can hardly be considered racist and fired even if it is solely based on race, quite the contrary those who try to force her to do that might be arrested for extortion it would be at least mobbing also a free agent or a free agency cannot be fired who would do? They are the owners, aren't they? what part of the difference between a worker and a slave you can't understand? I assume you're black you should know how important is the freedom of choice you should be the first on earth to understand that nobody should be forced to do something he or she don't wont to for whatever reason, nobody. that is the difference from a human being and a machine, from a free man and a slave , the right to choose.It's called Freedom Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/2/2012 3:15:58 PM Click to expand . I don't mean to be rude but which part of professional and personal don't you understand?? "quite the contrary those who try to force her to do that might be arrested for extortion it would be at least mobbing" Click to expand This quote you just mentioned fits perfectly to racist porn agents like Derek Hay who force their female clients not to work with Black males. NOT the Black IR porn fans who are asking for equality. The agency are NOT the employers. The agency works for the client, not the other way round. So by rights, a porn agent DOESN'T have the authority to dictate who his employer should and should not work with. Not to be rude again but you sound like you have difficulty grasping English. If you read my posts again, my issue is not so much the white porn-starlets, my issue is the racist porn agencies who go above their station and ILLIGALLY force their female porn-starlet EMPLOYERS to refuse working with Black men and feed them with BS excuse to say when questioned, THAT IS MY ISSUE. So can you please stop sounding like a dumb boring scratched record repeating the same dead argument. So in a nutshell, your retarded assertions of 'freedom of choice' for the pornstarts should NOT be addressed to the Black IR pornfans, BUT instead to the white racist porn agents and suitcase pimps etc who PREVENT their girls from sleeping with the Black male pornstars that they desperately want to work with. P.S. Please don't mention anything about what I should and should not understand about slavery. Regarding this issue, I think its best you just stay in your corner and keep quite. Edited by - Interracial_Sex3 on 1/2/2012 4:10:40 PM [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 4:05PM But in this case (which I believe is far more common than we realize), the question of choice is no longer about whether she has the right to choose not to work with black males; now the choice is about whether she has the right to reject the order/advice of her agent. Click to expand She has, and I fully support her choice if done to the point to buy/rent her movies even in the case I don't like her, freedom of choice is sacred to me.All of us in Europe know our freedom has been paid in blood , a lot, a big part of it was American including Afro-Americans, it is not a thing I can give up easily. Maybe I can't catch some parts in a discussion of this kind after all we had slavery here but never had ethnically based slavery at least in European territory although European Empires did had it in their colonies almost all of them. So despite Fascism and Nazism we don't have the same attitude some Americans have toward black people, racism is not unknown here but it's strictly forbidden and there are law enforcements against it which I personally fully approve and sustain. so said I might add Bobbi Starr to Tori Black name or Sasha Gray or Aurora Snow or Dana DeArmond all of them did IR very early in their career, but I can also mention Sammy Grand whose last scenes were IR ( Mandingo , a featured movie for Sweet Sinners and a couple for dogfart one of them is not out yet) and has been wiped out from the biz , she did maybe three scenes last year for ATK and might been filmed way before. I can mention Proxy Paige a strong performer with high potential who did some IR early in her career for WCP but is now barely working , she did some movies for Jay Sin but very little else. Jessi Palmer seems to be following them very little seems to be coming out ,she not only did IR from the beginning but also has a mixed daughter. I'm waiting to know what would do Tiffany Star who not only did lots of IR she also gave birth to a baby whose father is apparently black. Ok she stopped performing due to her pregnancy but she was already almost retired her last scene was an IR for dogfart filmed in January way before she got pregnant her scene for Everhard's Almost Jailbait #8 was filmed way before the issue , she was already advanced when the movie came out. Now the true question is what can WE do to change this? I don't think that to harass and give other pressure to the stars is a good thing , nor would be to label them as racist. we should do our part , Diana Prince made a choice , I think I'll support her with my money , and I'm prepared to to the same for any other star who makes the same choice , but if someone wants to boycott those who don't I won't give any help , not all have the will and guts to challenge a system I won't punish them for that [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 4:15PM Interracial_Sex3 wrote: This quote you just mentioned fits perfectly to porn agents like Derek Hay who force their female clients not to work with Black males. NOT the Black IR porn fans who are asking for equality. The agency are NOT the employers. The agency works for the client, not the other way round. So by rights, a porn agent DOESN'T have the authority to dictate who his employer should and should not work with. Not to be rude again but you sound like you have difficulty grasping English. If you read my posts again, my issue is not so much the white porn-starlets, my issue is the racist porn agencies who go above their station and ILLIGALLY force their female porn-starlet EMPLOYERS to refuse working with Black men and feed them with BS excuse to say when questioned, THAT IS MY ISSUE. So can you please stop sounding like a dumb boring scratched record repeating the same dead argument. So in a nutshell, your retarded assertions of 'freedom of choice' for the pornstarts should NOT be addressed to the Black IR pornfans, BUT instead to the white racist porn agents and suitcase pimps etc who PREVENT their girls from sleeping with the Black male pornstars that they desperately want to work with. P.S. Please don't mention anything about what I should and should not understand about slavery. Regarding this issue, I think its best you just stay in your corner and keep quite. Edited by - Interracial_Sex3 on 1/2/2012 4:06:22 PM Click to expand Since I'm not English native I might very well misunderstood something , I have no issues on admitting that. Anyway if a star doesn't agree with her agent can't she change agency? I don't think she's enchained with him. So freedom of choice applies in any case also a professional is expected to respect her terms of contract , not to accept anything if terms doesn't allow IR then she stays professional not doing that it's not a blank contract as for the part in evidence , I don't buy it, "desperately want to work with" c'mon if a star wants to fuck some black guy she can do it off camera anytime as for work she already get paid fucking whites. Even Taylor Rain fucked blacks off camera Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/2/2012 4:19:47 PM [Link]
zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 4:48PM hero1978 wrote: Has Julia Ann done anything on film with Shorty Mac? Click to expand I don't think so? Maybe a bj in the Bro Bang scene she did for Dogfart? Probably just a matter of time. She's done all the big guns like Jack Napier, Justin Long, Shane Diesel, and recently Mandingo. And she has even done some thugish knucklehead types like Tone Capone, Deep Threat, and recently Wesley Pipes which is cool. It would be interesting to see her do Shorty Mac because of the height difference. ;-) Shorty has done a scene her friend Lisa Ann though. Edited by - zambi on 1/2/2012 4:50:40 PM Edited by - zambi on 1/2/2012 4:51:53 PM [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 4:48PM Interracial_Sex3 wrote: Not to be rude again Click to expand MOD: Apparently you are having trouble grasping the forum etiquette. There should never be a need to state, not to be rude again. Either you can respect the other members of this community, or you can find another one to join. Because another member here doesn't agree with you don't make them wrong or right. It makes their opinion different. [Link]
Interracial_Sex3 Deactivated User 13 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 6:49PM Laurie Cameron Fan wrote: Since I'm not English native I might very well misunderstood something , I have no issues on admitting that. Anyway if a star doesn't agree with her agent can't she change agency? I don't think she's enchained with him. So freedom of choice applies in any case also a professional is expected to respect her terms of contract , not to accept anything if terms doesn't allow IR then she stays professional not doing that it's not a blank contract as for the part in evidence , I don't buy it, "desperately want to work with" c'mon if a star wants to fuck some black guy she can do it off camera anytime as for work she already get paid fucking whites. Even Taylor Rain fucked blacks off camera Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/2/2012 4:19:47 PM Click to expand THATS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM: Racist Agents setting racist rules. I don't know if the girls are given a contract not to do IR but if that's the case, then this practice should be made illegal. The girl may sign the contract that prohibiting IR, but the fact is that these girls are usually young teens, fresh off the bus and 'non the wiser'. Unscrupulous porn agents take advantage of these young girls lack of knowledge of the industry and easily manipulate their way of thinking and actions (ie previously named porn agent). Everyone with common sense knows the BS LIE of IR damaging a white porn girls career has been shot down to flames by multiple AVN award Winners like Tory Black, Sasha Grey etc. But these young girl have no clue and this is what the Unscrupulous racist porn agent takes advantage of. Tell me, why does a white porn girl have to sneak off and fuck a fellow Black porn performer off camera as opposed to on camera. Does this make it right? American porn claims to be liberal and this BS is going on in 2012?, Is this a real indication of real life America? Talking about REAL LIFE America, nobody has heard of Kim Kardashian BEFORE she did a sex tape with a virtually unknown Black guy called Ray J. Well guess what, since doing that IR sex-tape, Kim Kardashian and her WHOLE FAMILY are now multimillionaire A-List Hollywood celebrities. The owner of [mod edit: name of model agency removed. You can't legally prove that the agency in question has a strict non-IR policy.] could use that theory and change his anti IR policy if he wants to make his clientèle real money. Losing a few small minded bigot fans is a small price to pay if you're on the way to big megabucks celebrity status. So in a nutshell, doing IR not only helps your career, it even propels you to celebrity status. Edited by - killbillvol69 on 1/2/2012 8:08:06 PM [Link]

Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 10:42PM I wouldn't say that Ray J was a "virtually unknown black guy," prior to the sex tape coming out he had released three albums and had several songs in the top 30s of lists. And nothing you stated proves that doing IR propels you to celebrity status. Does it help a career or hurt a career I don't know. However, you pushing your agenda in this thread isn't going to work. It is not what the OP of the thread intended it for. For those who have forgotten the purpose of this thread, I am showing the original post: Royal Tee wrote: I've been thinking about making this thread for a while but didn't think it would really fly. IR can be a hot topic on this board. From some reason when people discuss IR it always seem to get kind of heated. With that being said, I know for a lot of people, IR is their favortie niche. Those are the people that i'm making this thread for. A place where fans of the gerne discuss the "goings on" exclusively. People can talk about their favorite movies or performers, scenes or upcoming releases. A place where Stars,Directors and studioheads can drop information about upcoming releases. Basically if you like seeing Black guys bang white women or White guy railing black women this is the place be. White and Black women banging each other is also cool. To make this thread work we're going to have to lay some guide rules so to speak. 1. I'm defineing IR as scenes involving black performers. I know technicaly a scene with Priya Rai & Michael Stefano is IR but it doesn't work like that in the porn biz. Lets try keep the talk about BM/WF or WM/BF scenes. If people want to include AM/WF scene I guess i'm cool with that. 2. Lets not have the thread be full of arguments about racist circumstances in the IR genre. What i mean is, no bashing starlets for not doing IR. Lets try and focus on the positive spectrum. Forget the ones that don't do IR and focus on the ones that do. 3. If a poster ask if a starlets does IR or not, Just respond with a simple "yes" or "no". NO hearsay or speculation. A lot of times arguments star because of these types of responses. People can give "updates" about ladies that do add IR to their card. 4. You can still talk about thing in a negative light(gotta follow the TOS). Lets just try to keep it focused on the smut. I apologize if i'm coming across like a dick for setting rules. I'm not trying to be bossy. It's just i really want to make this thread work. I used to post over at MrMarcus fourm(not a popular place here) because it was the only place I knew to talk about IR porn. Unfortunately that fourm kind of went to shit.Hopefuly this thread will take off and not turn into a racism debate. Maybe a mod can keep a close eye out... So, Where da white women at!?! Click to expand So lets bring it back on topic because the way it's headed is going to get it locked. [Link]
Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User 56 Posts 5/10	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 11:51PM pabloescobar wrote: I saw a similar argument on another forum. And just as it's explained above it was a racist divide. If you wouldn't bang a black dude you are racist. If you don't like IR you are racist. What a cop out to reality! It's similarly played off that all women should want work outside the home. A housewife should only be a temporary job. Let's go slow some of you people. 1) I do not like Indian food. To ME IME is the key word) it's awful! Now, if you manage to come up with an argument for that you are a giant douche and please stop reading because nothing else will make sense to you. 2) I am not turned on by Black (or Asian) chicks. I've been to my share of strip joints, malls, WalMarts and seen more than a few videos and seen all sorts of these women in them. They rarely if ever do anything for the schlong. Am I racist? Two of my best friends are Indian and black so I kind of think not. Why would I or anyone be a racist because you don't like something based on personal choice? It simply what appeals to me. I like IR for the reason above. When I look at the actors in porns I often will ask myself if they are attractive, and not that porn is known for handsome dudes, it has been getting better. There are less Ron Jeremy's floating around. When I look at the black actors (or my friend) I rarely see a handsome face. It's again personal taste and if I were into blowing dudes I probably wouldn't seek out black dudes. It's again personal taste. I'm not saying anything about whether they are capable or have the same rights, just that they don't appeal to me. I think some this same thinking is used against woman who want "traditional" wife roles. The women's movement was about choice! Don't let anyone take that away. Click to expand Oh come off it. Nobody is fooled by this 'freedom of choice' argument that only centers around whether you have sex with black men. Just like nobody is fooled by by the 'attraction' argument when you are willing to bone the ugliest men alive as long as they aren't darker than khaki. There's a reason there is only one 'race' in porn and then there is everybody else, [read the forum etiquette]. Luckily there are people like Diana Prince who won't let the goofy codespeak and freedom excuses that only applies to one group at one time. [read the forum etiquette] Diana Prince is the answer.....[read the forum etiquette] MOD: Read the forum etiquette before posting again. Edited by - flash on 1/2/2012 11:55:52 PM [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 11:52PM MOD: One last chance. Back to the original topic. Next post that isn't back on the original topic gets this locked. [Link]
Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User 56 Posts 5/10	Posted - Jan 2 2012 : 11:55PM MOD: And this thread is done. And stop with attacking people with your posts. Edited by - flash on 1/2/2012 11:57:18 PM [Link]