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backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
2776 Posts
10/07
Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 8:19PM
Great post WardqueenJanine. If that's you in the profile pic you are one delicious looking young lady. Woof !
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 9:45PM
Nope and they dont get paid till they sign when its over.
MrChrisEvans
Member

Puck Forn
87 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 1 2008 : 1:27PM
Oh wow..I have never shot a scene without having all performers sign paper work first. That's like a basic rule. This way whatever happens I still have the right to use whatever I want. It's a simple matter of leverage, if you don't sign you don't perform. If for some reason they work without first signing off on it then they don't get paid for the work unless they have signed off on it. No director wants to have the situation occur where they have paid the talent but don't have a signed release, it's much harder to chase down talent for a signature, than it is to have the talent chasing you for money. They always come for money (oops no pun intended)
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 1 2008 : 3:16PM
Try to keep up will ya...they dont get paid till they sign. Laws in GA where I shoot are different than LA What I do works fine for me, never had a problem and it keeps me out of an orange jumpsuit.
The basic rule is you get a knowledgeable attorney and you do what he tells you to do so that should he end up defending you he has what he needs to work with.
 
Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Apr 1 2008 : 4:52PM
Isn't it great to live in the "land of the free"? The land with the highest percentage of their population in prison. Where you can be sentenced to life in prison (three strikes out in Cali) for sucking dick.
Steve Holmes
Savoy All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Sucker for Sinners
1844 Posts
12/06
Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 3:27AM
Even as a porn consumer, I used to make the distinction between prostitute and porn performer in my head. I don't do that anymore. It took me awhile to see it though. All that hair, make-up, graphic-heavy boxcovers, modeling, "events" and interviews threw me for a loop - the marketing and PR basically. Porn stars are the super-fancy show horse variety of sex worker. Many of them still do not like to be thought of as prostitutes. I respect the ones that acknowledge that they are a form of prostitute. At least they aren't in denial.
Thanks for your post Janine. I'm sure the illegality of prostitution is what keeps many performers from discussing this topic. I appreciate you talking about it and I'm glad you've joined ADT.
MrChrisEvans
Member

Puck Forn
87 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 3:57PM
Hey Mike, I think it's funny that your telling me to "Try to keep up will ya"... Give me a break, go pick on someone your own age, I'm sure there's plenty of challengers down at the old folks home.
backdoorman
Senior Member

Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
2776 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 7:15PM
^ Meerroowwwwrrrr phhhhhtttttttt !! hee hee
MikeSouth
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511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 7:51PM
LOL I actually laughed at that
MrChrisEvans
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Puck Forn
87 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 8:37PM
That's cool, you know I have respect for ya, just busting your balls a little bit!!
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 1:16PM
hey if I couldnt take it I wouldn't dish it
backdoorman
Senior Member

Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
2776 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 8:49PM
Purrrrrrrrrr !! hee hee
melaniescottxxx
Member

75 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 4:02PM
Well the act of having sex for money is prostitution , but I guess the difference in my opinion would be :
The controlled environment and designated location for the sex act to commence.
All parties involved in sex acts are AIM tested.
All parties involved in sex acts have a choice in refusal of sex partner or sex acts.
Higher compensation.
The fact that it will be on DVD or Web.
Residual income based on a scene.
Your parents would rather see you do porn than hook on a corner.
I am not really defending the facts that it is pretty much the same thing,there are still pimps involved with a lot of talent,especially the really young naive ones.Someone is always getting a piece of what you make,theres always someone that will make an attempt at pressuring or strong arming you into shit you don't want to do with promises of money.
Just my opinon...:-)
Melanie Scott XXX
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 4:09PM
well lets look at this
The controlled environment and designated location for the sex act to commence.
Prostitutes work in a controlled environment
All parties involved in sex acts are AIM tested.
What a joke...prostitutes go one better...they use condoms
All parties involved in sex acts have a choice in refusal of sex partner or sex acts.
So do prostitutes
Higher compensation.
Amy Reid gets double as a prostitute what she makes for a scene, so do most girls. That Spitzer hooker got 4K a throw have you ever made that for a condom scene? Any scene?
The fact that it will be on DVD or Web.
www.realpunting.com
Residual income based on a scene.
Ya right....not for performers
Your parents would rather see you do porn than hook on a corner.
Not if your parents have half a brain
 
pornlaw
Member

578 Posts
10/05
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 7:51PM
Sex for Money -- for the most part, California = porn if theres a model release with the intent of commercial distribution and the person paying isnt receiving sexual gratification (Freeman), every where else = prostitution.
Perhaps there will be another state (FL) that finds that content production is protected speech, but not yet. And for the most part under contract law, sex for money except where protected is an illegal contract that is unenforceable.
Michael
www.AdultBizLaw.com

Edited by - pornlaw on 4/4/2008 7:57:22 PM

RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 8:17PM
I knew it! Marriage is an illegal scam!
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 9:10PM
OK Now that shit is FUNNY!
makir35
Member

18 Posts
12/07
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:10PM

One is the purest form of art and the other is the world's oldest profession.
pornlaw
Member

578 Posts
10/05
Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 1:26AM
Close. Except for marriage, - contracts that call for sex as part of the consideration or exchange are usually not enforced by courts. Even a contract for cohabitation/palimony between non married people that discusses sex can be declared void and against public policy.
Michael
www.AdultBizLaw.com
the dark knight
Deactivated User

46 Posts
1/08
Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 1:55AM
Of course its prostitution and it always will be Savoy is right the beutiful women, fancy box covers ect have fooled many of you as has the feeling you "know" your favourite performers its akin to the prostitute encouraging the John so he will always come back for more.
MikeSouth
Deactivated User

511 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 2:02AM

From a purely legal standpoint it actually seems to be against every legal doctrine that this country was founded on for the sale of sex to be illegal. I can give you sex for free all I want but I can't sell it?
Makes no sense at all but then neither does making it illegal to grow a plant.
Funny that in the land that we call the worlds beacon of freedom over 1 in 4 of us are in jail, over half those for non violent crimes....but you can bet the offenders will be violent when they get out...you reap what you sow people.
We should fire every politician and start fresh the system has become nothing more than a turd bucket
melaniescottxxx
Member

75 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 2:45AM
+1 on all of that
pornlaw
Member

578 Posts
10/05
Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 12:05PM
Remember, sex outside of a legally and religiously recognized union was called adultery for the most part, and until recently in the US, was illegal. So even free sex was not sanctioned or legal previously.
Also remember all the laws against sodomy, that have recently been used against gay & lesbian intimacy and sexual relations.
Michael
www.AdultBizLaw.com
realtip
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2301 Posts
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Posted - Mar 1 2011 : 2:35AM
 
Fluffhead
Member

His eyes were clear and pure...
37 Posts
8/09
Posted - Mar 1 2011 : 2:29PM
There's nothing wrong with either.
And plenty of girls in the first line of work participate in the second in their private time.
Drebin
Member

686 Posts
3/09
Posted - Mar 1 2011 : 9:19PM
+1 i got respect for all the girls in porn i got off to over the years and ppl behind camera for bringing it to the internets too but dont feel the same away about prostitution.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Mar 1 2011 : 9:26PM
What a played out discussion.
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