Okay fellow directors, after the hate party on this thread, how about a little constructive critisism. Are you wo/man enough?
1) Name one thing that as a rule you think is done poorly in poorly in porn that could be done better without costing another another nickle.
2) Name one thing you'd like to do differently in your productions if you had a bigger budget.
I'll go first.
1) I'd like to see more attention to what's in the background of shots. I hate seeing the dirty tennis shoes and/or street clothes the starlet wore to work stuff in the corner of the room where the scene is being shot.
2) I'd like to work in enviornments with better sound isolation.
-T.C.
Edited by - TonyC on Nov 29 2005
Topic Moved by - Steph on Nov 29 2005
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Posted - Sep 13 2004 : 7:54PM
If I had a bigger budget I'd shoot in exotic places and take my talent and crew with me.
You need to be negative and falsely accuse someone/everyone of something in order to get lots of replies.
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Posted - Sep 14 2004 : 1:53PM
I don't think that's it Zoid. I think TonyC just worded the question wrong. He didn't open the discussion up to fans as well as fellow Talent. Fans could say what they would like to see directors do without adding to cost or if directors had bigger budgets.
This is one of the things I'm missing in current porn. Good looking people going at it on lovely beaches or other tropical settings. Or up in the mountains at or near a ski resort. There the sex could start in a sauna, continue with some frolicking in the snow and then back in the sauna. Sort of a Finnish motif.
I'd love to see some of that with todays performers.
Could any gonzo or feature carry the cost these days?
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Posted - Sep 14 2004 : 2:40PM
You might want to check out this Woodman movie. It makes good use of a spectatcular cliffside villa.
As for things that could be done better for no additional expenditure: the transition from clothed to unclothed -- which should be hot -- is all too often given short shrift. If it isn't skipped altogether (e.g., abrupt cut from girl wearing clothes to naked girl with dick in mouth), it's deprived of erotic interest in one way or another (such as occurring during one of those awful gonzo "interviews," in which at some point the girl is instructed by some off-camera voice to take her clothes off, and she complies with all the enthusiasm of one about to be de-loused.)
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Posted - Sep 14 2004 : 2:47PM
I agree with you Kperv. That is missing from today's Porn. Of course budgets now can afford nice locations. If they could in the late 90's to early 2000's they can now. I think the 2 reasons we(fans) don't see locations anymore are.... #1 the cycle of popular girls ar just that, popular, so they can't travel to an exotic location when they have a scene in Cali. first thing the next morning. #2 It's a contrast thing. With the circus act Porn today shoving a baseball bat, 2 butt plugs, a dildo, & a fist("where did my watch go?") in a chicks ass in an exotic place doesn't contrast well. Ugly sex in a pretty place doesn't work.
1) Name one thing that as a rule you think is done poorly in poorly in porn that could be done better without costing another another nickle.
Don't hire based on looks alone.
2) Name one thing you'd like to do differently in your productions if you had a bigger budget.
personally I havea very shallow talent pool in PA so we always have the same cast, I would love to be able to pay rates to get varied, qualified (read have a hard on) people.
I would also like to have make up
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Posted - Sep 15 2004 : 3:47AM
I agree Kami. Pretty people don't always make the best porn. If the chick has "IT" she doesn't have to be supermodel pretty.
1) Name one thing that as a rule you think is done poorly in poorly in porn that could be done better without costing another another nickle.
=> Better view of the action. What I meant is sometimes zooming into the girl's ass is great. But it should not be done all the time. I prefer seeing the girl's face/body during the action. Especially ATMs, it's awesome to see the girl in full view during anal and jumps off to suck the cock.
2) Name one thing you'd like to do differently in your productions if you had a bigger budget.
=> Pay the girls to do even dirtier sex. Fuck the nice scenery. The whole point of porn is to be able to see things that you can't do in regular life. I have to think most people who are into porn are in the same boat. I have a beautiful wife and have enough money to go to exotic places. But I don't think that I could convince my nice wife to do an ATM.
1) Name one thing that as a rule you think is done poorly in poorly in porn that could be done better without costing another another nickle.
Videography
2) Name one thing you'd like to do differently in your productions if you had a bigger budget.
A gaffer and a lighting truck. This isn't a cost issue so much as a scheduling issue. There are only a handful of lighting guys in porn who know what the hell they are doing and I can't call one up the night before a scene that was put together at the last minute because "so and so" is only available to shoot on that day because she's quadruple booked through March of 08 and expect them to be available. Plus I like to shoot two scenes a day only and that clearly wouldn't be cost effective.
I would also like to shoot with a Sony F900, a Chapman dolly and someone to rub my shoulders and mop the perspiration from my brow but that's highly unlikely :)
Something I'll do the next time I shoot gay men that won't cost any money is ask them to get haircut. Hell, I'll even pay. It's bad enough trying to make the brushing the hair aside while sucking cock look natural doing straight porn. When you've got two guys with longish hair, it's four times as bad!
1) How about camera guys who use a microphone so their voice is not 100 times louder than the talent? And hearing the nasaly camera guy's breathing is not exactly a turn-on. Use a fucking microphone. Stop treating porn like it is a home video.
Ok, this may cost you a few nickels. Big deal. This still needs to be said.
2) Good make up artists. No, they don't have to cost more as long as you give them steady work.
3) Actual locations that are pleasing to the eye. No this does not always have to cost more. I see people bragging that they "shot in a multi million dollar mansion" and the scene still looks like shit. Shooting a scene on a boring looking couch pushed up against a white wall looks like shit regardless of if it is in a one-bedroom apartment or a 10 million dollar house.
4) Oh, and enough with the extreme wide-angle lenses. All it does is make your talent look like circus freaks. Yes, a medium wide-angle lens is often good for gono and I use them often. But ease up on the extreme wide lenses. The girls will look hotter and their nostrils will not look flared out like an ape when you are getting POV shots.
I was going to say this one, but didn't want to rev up my pretty hate machine.
It's a lot harder to shoot with longer lenses, especially handheld. They emphsize camera shake, and don't carry as much depth of field – you might have to check your focus now and then!
Something I will do next time that only costs a little and pays good divedends is shoot color charts on the shadow and highlight side of my set up. It lets the colorist gauge just how much range I intended the scene to have, and I get better transfers for less money!