"We're charging double for the VHS, and the VHS is retailing for about $60. So the DVD will be double your normal DVD price, and we're assuming that retailers will be charging $55 - $65 for it."

- Pornmaster Mike

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A DVD like Titanic is also expected to sell millions of copies. Therefore a significant profit can be realized with a small markup on each copy. On top of that, with the large number of copies being sold, the percentage of the fixed costs that end up being applied to the cost of each individual unit is miniscule.

Even a DVD like Fashionistas will probably sell less than 10,000 copies. It's a 4 hour and 40 minute movie with extra footage. They could have easily released this movie in two parts and nobody would have complained about the cost.

Edited by - Bill on 12/24/2002 6:06:57 PM

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Therefore I look at it as getting 2 movies in one set not just 2 discs so it will be worth the cost no matter how much it is.

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Now you breeders know how buyers of gay porn feel. =)

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BTW, The Fashionistas is easily the most pirated title in Brazil. I used to see the dupes on only a couple of x-rated only store, but recently I found it, with a PRINTED cover, on some mainstream stores that do carry porn. If the person who´s making the dupes is the person I think ít is, I guess there may be well over 1,500 dupes in circulation by now.

THE FASHIONISTAS brazilian release on VHS will only happen in january. No word on a DVD version, but the "brazilian" Evil Angel still don´t trust on the media. So far, since the invention of the DVD, they have the whooping amount of 13 titles on their catalog...

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Edited by - Planet Sex on 12/25/2002 5:38:00 AM

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Evil Angel stands for quality and I don't mind paying a little more for their titles because it's worth it.

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So even though he paid twice as much for Fashionistas that he normally pays for Evil Angel titles, he only made the same amount per copy sold. However, I also know that he sold a lot of copies, so he still made some good money on this movie.

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Some EA movies - Fashionistas included, and almost all of John Leslie´s output - can be easily re-edited to a cable version.

FYI, EA titles ARE shown on cable in Brazil.

Oh, and since Fashionistas was shot on film, I don´t know what prevents it to be released theatrically - at least on the raincoater circuit. Face Dance was shown theatrically in Brazil as well.

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Edited by - Planet Sex on 12/25/2002 9:17:10 PM

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Criterion does not produce the movies, they just license ´em for DVD releasing (and prior to that, Laserdisc). Criterion isn´t even allowed to sell their product outside the US of A.

In the case of The Fashionistas, the movie belongs to John, so he can exploit it as he wants - including showing it theatrically outside the USA, where there´s STILL chains of raincoater cinemas (mainly in Europe), putting it on cable and all sorts of things. It´s not a movie that will die six months after the VHS/DVD release (what would be a waste, btw).

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Edited by - Planet Sex on 12/25/2002 10:15:37 PM

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In short, it's about the integrity of the product rather than the possibility of lots of foreign sales.

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1) it's longer than TWO porn movies from any other porn company except Evil Angel. For us, it's the length of two movies.

2) it has a lot of fetish and S/M elements. These genres are often considered specialty and have a higher price structure.

3) For the DVD, the movie is the same length as the VHS - 4 hours 40 minutes. PLUS, there is a 3rd disc, which almost ANOTHER 4 hours of extras. We were proud of the VHS, but weren't overly concerned if we lost a few sales on VHS because of price, but for the DVD, we are even more sure that the product is worth every penny.

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As for foreign cable, when we sell to individual foreign territories, almost every territory has their cable rights included in the deal. So that doesn't get extra money for us.

As for theatrical, foreign wouldn't add up to much. Domestic doesn't do anything anymore for X-rated theatrical. We're considering doing an edit on film. But that costs more money, and it would only be to enter it into festivals. I'm not even sure how much more money we'd have to spend to cut the negative and do a film print and all of that, but it's not cheap, so we may not even do it at all.

Now, the Brazilian market can barely afford our releases at all anymore with the current economic situation, so we're concentrating more on selling individual DVD pieces into foreign territories rather than worrying about contract rights.

There will always be people who make individual copies for themselves and friends. It's the big dupers that cost us the big money.

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The problem is that Stanley´s still thinking in terms of the soon-to-be-extinct VHS rental market and doesn´t want to touch the REAL gold, namely the direct market represented by the magazines that comes with a "free" DVD.

(In fact, he actually thinks that this market is "negligible", and somebody needs to crack his skull open and put the correct notion in his brain. Me, I would love to crack his skull open, but not to give him any ideas... )

If a shitty mag with a shitty porn DVD sells about 10-15,000 copies M O N T H L Y , then imagine how much a mag with a BUTTMAN DVD - even a catalog one - will sell?

You don´t need to go much further to see how well the brazilian EA DVDs sell. Just go to their homepage. The majority of the titles are SOLD OUT.

SOLD FUCKING OUT .

If that´s not a sign that this market has a future, then Stanley is far more stupid than I always thought he was. And trust me, IMO, Stanley is EXTREMELY stupid.

Of course, Stanley and his army of ass-kissers are too incompetent to make a decent magazine, let alone market it with a "free" DVD, so let things stay that way. At least MY mag can go on and on without any competition...

(And the best thing is that the guys from the brazilian Buttman magazine can stop ripping off MY articles...)

Actually, I shouldn´t be giving you this kind of info. In fact, if the brazilian branch of EA went kaput, we would completely dominate the market in the very next day, kicking even Private´s ass.

Problem is, I like YOU, Tricia, very much, I also like John even if I don´t know him as well as I wanted to, and I would suck Joey Silvera´s cock if he wanted me to (even if I´m not gay), and even if I´m currently fed up with porn in any shape or form, I STILL can watch any scene shot by Joey or John, pop my load and relieve my tensions. So there.

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Edited by - Planet Sex on 12/26/2002 8:56:20 AM

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I love to see alternate angles of a good scene and hope the 3rd disc contains a lot of this.

Will there be an audio commentary track ?

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I would love to buy a trailer disc from EA, with say 3 minute previews of a few dozen of their films. Sometimes screenshots just don't give me enough of an idea whether to buy a title or not. And here in the UK we don't have any rentals so buying is a gamble.

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Seems like a fair price for happiness.

"I knew a girl who liked the prong
but alway brought her dog along..."

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There is an audio commentary with 4 of us at once: John Stagliano, Taylor St. Claire, Belladonna and me.
We skip part of Kate Frost's scene and part of Caroline Pierce's sex scenes, but other than that, we talk through the rest of the movie.
Hardz - there are some alternate angles in the making-of, shot on DV by me. Mostly, they show wide angles from far away of the film camera crew in the picture and shooting the stuff.
But nothing for alternate angles the way Vivid did.
The extra sex is all stuff that was on film and isn't in the movie. A couple extra positions from the sex scenes, and few things: extra time of the positions that are in the movie.
There's even a little bit extra of Belladonna's dance tease.

Trailers: Right now, John Leslie is the only EA director consistently doing trailers. It's a constant debate at EA whether we should do trailers for our movies. Still haven't made a decision.
We've been considering for a long time doing a sampler DVD of some sort that would be included for free with an issue of the Buttman magazine, but until the editors start doing trailers, we don't have a whole lot to put on there...

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Well, nothing at all in the movie was filmed by me. A 35mm camera (or any FILM camera) is very technical and needs an operator who knows what they're doing.
There was one film camera on set on most days, and John Stagliano and the Director of Photography Don Crane were the camera operators. Don shot all of the dialogue, they took turns during the sex scenes.

As for what I videotaped for the behind-the-scenes, it's almost everything where you don't see me. A true tip-off is when you hear a female voice from behind the video camera. I was the only non-wardrobe, non-makeup artist female on crew.
All of the behind-the-scenes sex shots were from my video camera.

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