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Kayfabe
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 1:48AM
Curious about peoples opinions about who you think are the best pound for pound female performers of the moment and of All-Time. I realize preferences vary so I'm not trying to find a consensus, more an opinion based on all around performance.

For me
Current: Alina Lopez
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All-Time: Tori Black
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Both Bad Mothers Fuckers that command the screen and perform with passion. Nothing they don't do well IMO

Cocaina_Shawty
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Katja Kassin
Bad_Habits
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 2:57AM
Monica Sweetheart
steeler59711
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 3:07AM
For me my always go to Shyla Stylez
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Pitiklin87
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 6:53AM
Angela White
 
AngryPirate
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 8:41AM
There's no such thing for me. Sure, there are performers I like much more than others but there isn't a hierarchy where I put one performer above all others, current or of all time.
RelentlessOnanism
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 12:38PM
The biggest porn star of all time is Jenna Jameson, in my opinion. She's not necessarily the greatest, in term of performance, but she's the biggest.

Angela White is in with a shout. My own personal favourite is Romi Rain. I've always said that pound for pound, she's the greatest.

ao606
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 1:44PM
I think picking one single girl is hard honestly, as I don't think one girl ticks all boxes. like GOAT of what? GOAT of gangbangs, blowbangs, output, looks, performance, other kinks, etc.? or GOAT Asian, European, white, etc. based on ethnicity? or is it just that one girl that does it for you all the time, that you can fall back on reliably?

The more I think about it, I think it's Ariana Marie for me currently that I can usually fall back on. Great combination of looks and performance and her open-ness to doing certain kinks, not to mention her own personal life being a certain-level of kinky with her open marriage and all. She just needs a couple of gangbangs and she'd be Hall of Fame'd honestly.

Previously... a tie between Charmane Star and Tera Patrick. Absolute GOAT girls in both looks and the scenes they put out.

On the European side, a three way tie between Kristy Black, Monica Sweetheart and Jade Laroche.

Tough question, like I said.

a9nostic
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 7:24PM
The GOAT?

Ava Devine.
No, Sandra Romain.
No, Monica Santhiago.

I can't decide, but certainly one of the three.

Edited by - a9nostic on 3/11/2021 7:26:16 PM

pat362
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 7:31PM
I couldn't have put it any better.
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 9:03PM
Agree about Jenna, she is biggest star of all time.
MazeG69
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Posted - Mar 11 2021 : 11:27PM
Pound for pound for as little as she is I'd go with Gauge. Her Jules Jordan scenes & her scene in the Gangbang girl #32.

But picking the Goat in porn to hard to choose.

redchambray
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 12:01AM
Would have to agree that Jenna Jameson (so-called Queen of Porn) is probably the biggest and would be at the top or near the top on many "critics" top 10 greatest porn stars of All-Time list.

I would consider the # of years active, # of scenes, # of covers and popularity (any mainstream success/exposure) as criteria. Also success after retiring from porn.

Here's a list of 9 others for consideration,

Tera Patrick
Traci Lords
Sasha Grey
Jenna Haze
Jesse Jane
Lisa Ann
Sunny Leone
Asa Akira
Angela White

For the record this isn't my personal top 10. It would be hard to make a list of my favorites.
All of these girls I have listed have a substantial Wikipedia page unlike Alina Lopez or Romi Rain (no offense to either, I also love watching their scenes and follow them on social media).

Kayfabe
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 1:16AM
Fair enough to be clear this was all about personal preference. Everyone wants something different from a performer. I think of Alina & Tori in the same way I think of Pat Mahomes or Notorious B.I.G. Guess I should named it Personal GOAT
Slector
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 2:16AM
Okay, someone is going to have to explain to me what GOAT means.
 
Bad_Habits
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 2:26AM
^ Greatest Of All Time
PornoSmurf
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 3:09AM
Greatest ever has to be Angela White. The beauty, the charisma, the incredible body, the pure filth. Many girls have some of these qualities but it's so rare when a girl has all of these combined.

My favorite of all time also possesses all of the above, Jennifer White. So I have a favorite of all time and greatest of all time

biggins
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 8:35AM
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AngryPirate
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 8:58AM
I don't recall stating otherwise. I stated there is no GOAT for me. You asked our opinion and I gave mine. I didn't say you or anyone else was wrong for having theirs.

Latin Lover
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Posted - Mar 12 2021 : 5:06PM
Bobbi Starr is #1 4ever!
Pr0nLover
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Posted - Mar 13 2021 : 1:58AM
Sorry. Just can't do it. There are simply too many fantastic performers out there, past and present, to narrow it down. At best, I would have to narrow it down by categories. But even then I would have to choose several. There's just no good way to narrow it down. That's actually a good thing.
Melburn
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Posted - Mar 13 2021 : 2:48AM
Angela White
Draxxx
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Posted - Mar 13 2021 : 8:16AM
Angel White I'm going with Angela and here's why...She isn't the biggest pornstar of all time, that goes to Jenna Jameson. However, Jenna's fame in my opinion came from her taking advantage of some lucky breaks moreso than hard work and planning. Jenna got mainstream exposure and was able to parlay it into a VIVID contract girl and had the company backing her exposure to the point of having dedicated Jenna sections in sex shops. With that sort of marketing behind her people just bought into the notion that she was the pornstar to watch. Meanwhile as a performer I don't think average porn fans were that impressed by her as a performer outside the VIVID niche audience. Jenna in a Gonzo world without the power of a studio behind her would've more than likely been just another pretty girl and probably far from a real standout.

However, Angela White has built a brand on her own from being a great performer. She has had success in many porn genres. She can do great down and dirty Gonzo. She can do classy porn. She act well enough to do story driven porn. She does the more extreme stuff like anal, DPs, gangbangs, and such. She does IR. She can do big tit movies. She can do Big Butt movies. She can do MILF. She does lesbian scenes. She basically has had success in multiple genres. No she isn't the greatest performer of all time but she has strong appeal across multiple porn genres and has built a very strong brand and presence in porn and has the awards to back it up. And she did it on her own without being a contract girl and a studio marketing her.

Second place Riley Reid but for different reasons. Riley has managed to stay a top ten for years. Other girls would become more popular but only for awhile and their popularity would fade after a time. But Riley's popularity stayed high for years. Not always number one but usually top ten. What makes this even more impressive is Riley did this without doing anal or the more extreme stuff for years. Riley also couldn't do some of the most popular porn genres. No Big Butt. No Big Breast. No MILF. And for years no anal, DPs, or extreme hardcore stuff. Most petite girls like Riley get stuck in the "Barely legal" zone. Most of the petite girls who manage to escape the "Barely Legal" genre mostly do so by doing the more extreme sex acts. But Riley was able to do all sorts of porn genres and not be put in a box like so many other petite porngirls.

The other interesting thing about both Angela and Riley is as big as they are in porn they seem to have very little mainstream world presence.

Draxxx
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Posted - Mar 13 2021 : 8:31AM
If I were to try and pick the GOAT based purely on performance, that would be very hard. First of all everyone had different critera as to what makes a good performer. I think some think a good performer as who can do the more extreme over the top acts. the girls who perform on a site like LEGAL PORNO can do that extreme stuff but are they really great performers? I've always thought Jesse Jane was a good performer but most people here don't agree because she doesn't do anal and mostly worked for a contract studio that was seen as "vanilla". The girls who work for the major sites tend to get the most attention but I see lots of girls from other countries and girls who are mostly unknown give great performances. But they aren't on most people's radar and rarely if ever get mentioned. I think Cathy Heaven is an outstanding performer with great looks but is rarely mentioned here.

What do you consider the qualities of a great performer?

bsavage
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Posted - Mar 13 2021 : 10:18AM
Belladonna
Jenna haze
Shyla stylez

Certainly adriana chechik, angela white, and riley reid will get there as part of the current active list of porn stars.

 
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Mar 13 2021 : 12:43PM
This. After watching porn for 45 years, I'm not sure I could limit my favorites to a top 50.

However, just for kicks, I'll throw out a few of nominees.

Julia Ann -- looks, skills, longevity, done just about everything possible. What more could you ask for?

Ashlyn Gere -- Just a great overall performer.

Elena Koshka -- Underappreciated in the current environment, IMO. Fashion-model beauty, but the thing about her is how natural and enjoyable sex seems for her; it appears to me almost as if she isn't performing at all.

Blitqz
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Posted - Mar 16 2021 : 2:50PM
TBH, there's really no GOAT, because you can't judge from stats like you can in sports. It's more popularity, era, preferences, etc...

That said, I think you can point to a few per era, years, decades that have stood out.

Seka
Marilyn Chambers
Christy Canyon - one of my all time favs
Jenna Jameson
Raquel Darrian
Gianna Michaels
Shyla Stylez
Angela White
Riley Reid
Hitomi Tanaka - edit added because she's had crossover from JAV to american

Edited by - Blitqz on 3/16/2021 2:56:13 PM

turwin01
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Posted - Mar 17 2021 : 7:18PM
Nina Hartley
Debi Diamond
Jeanna Fine
Belladonna
Annette Schwarz
Sandra Romain
onlybalogna
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Posted - Mar 18 2021 : 4:18AM
GOAT? Bonnie Rotten
CarbonT
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Posted - Mar 18 2021 : 10:21AM
Annette Schwarz
KingNatto
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Posted - Mar 18 2021 : 1:27PM
Crossover is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? Also I don't see why this would be seen as a prerequisite for Hitomi or anyone else to be considered one of the GOATs.
AngryPirate
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Posted - Mar 18 2021 : 2:24PM
^ Well it's not like Blitqz didn't preface his(?) list with the performers having stood out in their era. If a JAV performer stood out to him(?) for having crossed over, I'd say that's good enough reason for him as is everyone else's reason for themselves.

Kayfabe did clarify this is about personal preference. Is Blitqz's list not a matter of personal preference, regardless of your apparent disagreement with their criteria?

wmike1
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Posted - Mar 18 2021 : 6:36PM
Easy for me. Ginger Lynn. She did it all, and could do any role. Riley Reid second
mgavin
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Posted - Mar 18 2021 : 9:22PM
The 90's
Christy Canyon
Savannah
Chasey Lain

2000's
Jenna Haze
Sasha Grey
Annette Schwarz
Shyla Stylez
Eva Angelina
Tori Black
Kristina Rose
Alexis Texas
Jesse Jane

2010s
Angela White
Adriana Chechik
Abella Danger
Abigail Mac
Kissa Sins
Anikka Albright
Lana Rhoads
Remy LaCroix
Jada Stevens
Asa Akira
Jill Kassidy
Jane Wilde
Emily Willis
Gia Derza
Riley Reid
Megan Rain
Jillian Janson
Adria Fox

Anal Sex Is My Thing :)

matchmaker
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Jewel DeNyle
 
KingNatto
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Posted - Mar 19 2021 : 2:57PM
Nah, you are right. I guess I was just kinda curious about the reasoning behind his list. But sure, it is all about personal preference, at the end of the day.
shhpuppy
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Posted - Mar 19 2021 : 6:46PM
Adriana Chechik is a contender.
Feet N Ass
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Posted - Mar 20 2021 : 8:11PM
AIDRA Fox or ADRIA Rae?

Always feet n ass. In that order.

Draxxx
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Posted - Mar 21 2021 : 10:26AM
Yes. I personally think she's one of the greatest "mainstream" porn performers of the past few years (or decade). And as crazy as it sounds I think she's even underrated in some ways. But I don't think of her as the GOAT because she doesn't check as many boxes as someone like Angela White...even though I think she's a better performer than Angela. But of course this all depends on how you judge "Greatest Of A Time".

Melburn
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Posted - Mar 21 2021 : 2:09PM
^
I would agree that Adriana is a more extreme performer than Angela WHite and capable of doing more outrageous things with her mouth and ass. But that's also Adriana's limitation.

Angela can do gangbangs, doubles and triples, but she can also do romantic scenes and is an excellent actor. Adriana on the other hand, is only at home is more extreme scenes.

That's what makes Angela, not only a better performer than Adriana, but the GOAT. No performer has ever checked all the boxes like Angela, while simultaneously maintaining momentum for so long, endeavoring to include more performers in mainstream porn, and acting as such a strong ambassador for the industry as a whole. Unicorn!

Draxxx
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Posted - Mar 22 2021 : 8:57AM
Totally agree with you. Angela is the better all around entertainer/performer and has the much stronger brand in porn. It's interesting with Adriana because she has the looks to do the more glam porn...and she does from time to time but the more extreme stuff has become her thing to the point I think most fans only want to see her in that role. She's great at it. But it is kinda limiting because after awhile you can only add so many guys or can only get so extreme in most "mainstream" porn. I like watching her scenes but I only watch her occasionally because I don't want her performances to blend together. On the other hand...She's been around for years and still is in demand and popular so there's an audience out there big enough to sustain that type of career. And of the girls who choose the type of extreme sex career path like Adriana...she's pretty much at the top.
onlybalogna
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Posted - Mar 22 2021 : 12:42PM
Everything Adriana did, Bonnie Rotten did better.
tom_servo
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Posted - Mar 23 2021 : 8:21AM
Like the OP's pick I would have to go with Tori Black for all-time. Even though she never got around to doing any GBs or BBs (sadly).

Performing right now I would have to go with Adriana Chechik. She's down for anything and everything and devours everything in her path.

aurecius
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Posted - Mar 23 2021 : 8:41AM
Personal favourite: Devon
Current replacement: Lara Frost
MILF type: Julia Ann

GOAT: I can only say I would have to choose one of three but I can not:

1. Jenna Jameson - reasons for mentioned earlier in post
2. Julia Ann - who could disagree
3. Riley Reid - 10 years of freshness

Memorable notisions:

1. Tori Black - Could have easily replaced JJ if she continued shooting
2. Little Caprice - Could have been even bigger than RR if she didn't stick to 95% of scenes with her boyfriend and also possible #1 of all time. Same goes as for RR - 10 years of freshness. Those two do not age.
3. Brianna Banks
4. Annette Schwarz

biggins
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Posted - Mar 23 2021 : 9:29AM
for tiny girl who takes really big units, I go
back to 1999 with leanni lei. Thought she was awesome
forzajuve
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Posted - Mar 23 2021 : 10:12AM
Hard list to make because it really depends on what I'm looking for on a particular day. Do I want a nice face, a naughty smile, a nasty do-it-all girl, a beautiful set of boobs...

But I guess some of the big ones depending on the mood would be.

Adriana Chechik
Angela White
Kenna James
Paige Owens
Kagney Linn Karter
Amy Reid
Giselle Palmer
Charley Chase
Anissa Kate
Aidra Fox
AJ Applegate
Ashley Adams

madhatter
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Posted - Mar 30 2021 : 3:33PM
Well, you'd have to break this into categories for sure to have a legit debate. However, for throat fucking, I gotta put Adriana Chechik at the top of list. See tweet below if you're not on board.
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AngryPirate
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Posted - Mar 30 2021 : 6:29PM
What constitutes as a "legit debate"? In matters of individual taste, there will always be disagreements, even in categories unless they are cherry-picked in a way that gives only one performer per category, in which case I'd say the criteria are suspect.

madhatter
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Posted - Mar 30 2021 : 7:52PM
Just saying you've got to break it up into different eras, genres, sexual positions and/or acts ...discussion & eventual consensus is healthy my friend.
AngryPirate
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Posted - Mar 30 2021 : 9:49PM
^ Who said discussion was unhealthy? I merely asked for clarity on what makes legit debate as "legit" can be a matter of opinion. Some people say something is "legit" simply because they have a vested interest behind their question or assertion, not because there's demonstrable merit.
madhatter
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Posted - Mar 31 2021 : 12:08AM
Your name is rather fitting...
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