For starters, I want to say that I've frequented this site for years but never created an account. I also want to add that this thread isn't created to "troll" or insult anyone but rather a way to express various opinions on a topic that us widely controversial. I would also like to add that I am a minority myself which is why this topic and the way the porn industry has handled this issue is the sole reason as to why I am passionate enough to create an account and discuss it. The topic of "interracial" inside and outside of the porn world still creates polarizing opinions. I, for one, do not like the way it's portrayed. It seems like the only correct form of an "interracial" relationship is portrayed by a white woman and a black man or white man and Asian woman. In fact, I don't think there are any men of my ethnicity in porn (Mexican American by the way) and very few Asian men. This leads to issues in the real world. This myth, this mirage that white women should and only date black men has made it difficult to even get noticed by a white woman unless you're black or mixed with black. Society creates this image of black males are superior to all other minorities and porn is the one to blame. Is there a market for interracial where the male isn't black or white? Well isn't the whole concept of porn to sell a fantasy? I'm sorry but I would be more comfortable seeing a guy that's of my ethnicity with a girl I fantasize about than a black guy. I'm sure the same could be said for Asian and middle eastern men but yet we aren't taken account for. Meanwhile, Greg lansky and Jules Jordan who have some sort of weird fetish with black men continue to dominate the industry and give the public no options rather than black or white. Please discuss if you agree or disagree with views as I would like to further the discussion.
I don't really care what 'ethnicity' a male performer is, nor do I believe for a second that women get their cues about who to date from porn. Sure, there are some young men and young women who think dating somebody of another 'race' is risque, or will piss off their parents, whatever, but young people have been stupid since forever. It isn't a porn thing. Aside from that, I should think that porn producers follow the money.
Thanks for your input but I do believe that the media in general plays this notion that white women dating black men is the "progressive" thing to do and yet when you speak to these same white women, they also state that they wouldn't date anyone not black or white. And also, there are women who only date and have intercourse with black men, that doesn't occur with other minorities. As for porn producers, I feel that all of them aren't open to casting non black minorities in their films even though there is money to be made because it's an untouched market.
I mean every commercial now a days is a white girl, an Asian or Latina and a black guy. When you do see interracial couples on tv, it's always a black guy and a white female. In fact, you don't even see white male, Asian female couples even though I believe that's the highest average interracial couple. But what really pushes my buttons is when I approach a white female that has or currently is with a black guy and I ask them if they consider themselves not racist because they're with a black guy even though they've never dated any other race and their excuse is, well "there aren't any (fill in the blank) where I live which is utter bs because there's different types of people living all over the U.S. I think most white women in and out of porn as well as producers feel that as long as black males are portrayed in a positive manner, then it gives them a pass at being racist or not taking account of every other race. I mean it just doesn't make sense that in the 2 parts of the country where porn is mostly produced (LA and miami) that you can't find Latino or Asian male talent?
Well, that raises several questions, starting with your use of the double negative - intentional? Also, what 'same white women' did you speak to? Frankly, interracial dating isn't a topic that I've ever brought up with a woman. However, if I did, I would point out that mixing the gene pool is a good thing, so they are to be commended for their efforts. Oh! That reminds me - did you know that the concept of ' race' was created by the British in order to justify their colonization of Africa? Surprising nobody, they claimed to be the "superior race", and they were just doing those backwards natives a favor. Honest! I'm sure Africans are lining up to send them large sums of cash in gratitude even as I type this. "And also, there are women who only date and have intercourse with black men, that doesn't occur with other minorities." I assume you mean that you don't believe there are women who only date and have intercourse with Eskimos, or whatever, as I doubt that you've actually done a statistically valid survey of women on what 'race' they have sex with. Whew! Sorry about the run-on sentence. "As for porn producers, I feel that all of them aren't open to casting non black minorities in their films even though there is money to be made because it's an untouched market." Erm, Katsuni has 430 performer credits on the IAFD, while Bamboo has 206 performer credits on the site, so I wouldn't call it untouched. At any rate, if you believe these producers are overlooking a source of wealth then isn't the smart thing to do to tap that wealth yourself? Instead of sitting on your ass and complaining, get out there and make them all look like fools, while getting rich in the process. It's the American way!
So in regards to the reply above me, there are a few things that either you misunderstood or purposely took the alternate route when it came to your answers. 1) I never said that mixing races is a bad thing but I will say that mixing races with just one particular race over others is, frankly racist but hey, as long as black males are taken account for then, it's a fair game right? 2) You find me a white female that only fucks Eskimos as you say it and I'll write you a check for 20 bucks. Frankly, there isn't a "fetish" for any other race than that of fucking black males, do you not see the racism in that or is it again not racist because blacks are benefiting? 3) I am very aware that there are plenty of different ethnicities in porn when it comes to WOMEN. Like the 2 examples you gave, I'll give you Luscious Lopez, Vicki Chase and Sativa Rose. 3 Mexican American women yet how many Mexican American men are there in porn? Zero? But again, no racism cuz blacks are accounted for right? #buildthewall hey it ain't racist cuz they're not building a wall to keep the blacks away right? 4) I would gladly start up a porn company based on Latino talent, unfortunately, I don't have any rich Jewish friends with a Latin fetish like there is with black men to give me the money to start it up. 5) My whole purpose of this topic is to show how racist it is to portray black males as dominant to all other races yet it's brushed under the rug because this country feels the need to make up for mistakes in history yet they continue to make the same mistakes with other races. You can come at me in any way you'd like but you would be lying to yourself if you didn't think I was at least remotely correct. And the fact that this thread has over 100 views in less than a day and very few replies show many are afraid to tackle the issue but I'm not
I don't see black males being portrayed as dominant to all other races. Maybe there's a website or series devoted to that role-play but I'm not going to generalize from that. As to the lack of replies, I wouldn't put money on your assumption that fear is the cause. It is just as likely that people see no point in responding when you've obviously made up your mind. Well, they might respond if they agreed with you. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusion.
In porn, violating taboos is always good for business. Anal sex and sex between black and white people is still considered a taboo by many people. That's why these themes are so successful in porn. There is no such taboo concerning sex between whites and latinos. So it wouldn't be a good idea to create a production company specializing in this kind of sex. As for the lack of male mexican or latin american performers: I don't think there's any discrimination. The number of good male talent in general is so small, I'm sure the industry will gladly hire able mexican or latin american performers, if they exist.
I disagree with your assertion of black dominance being shown in porn. I haven't seen any porn where the black race dominates the white race and I most certainly don't think anyone in the industry is looking at some way to make reparations for slavery, segregation, privilege, etc. It's interesting that you've mentioned Greg Lansky and accused him of fetishizing black men to dominate the industry. Your ramblings may have had credibility if you hadn't omitted the fact that black and Latina as well as women of Far East Asian descent star on Blacked. Tushy isn't race-oriented at all, nor is Vixen - why did you not concede these points? It's also curious that you complain about racism yet you are more comfortable seeing someone of the same ethnicity as you. Maybe something's wrong with me but regardless of the man's skin colour, I fantasize about the stud being me who's having sex with the hot lady. You seem to confuse coincidence with prejudice. There may not be Latin American men in the industry now but it's not like there haven't been any before e.g. TT Boy, Talon, Tony T, Juan Cuba. I doubt that they weren't "replaced" because of racism or other showing of disdain or aversion of Latin American porn actors but I'd welcome any evidence (not conspiracy theories) you can put forward saying otherwise. Your argument sounds like nothing but a vested interest because you don't feel represented, like your ethnicity is all there is to define yourself and other people. I agree with Hardware over the apparent lack of responses. You put forward this pretence of openness and a wish to discuss your observations but it looks very much like you've made your mind up already so furthering the discussion would be some sort of affirmative action to make you feel comfortable.
^ I think he doesn't mean "domination" but certainly in porn the Idea that Black Performers are bigger than any other and by exchange superior lover is a fact , it's also a fact that nobody sees a Latino as a different race and many Latino or Spanish performers don't sell themseves as Latinos , Mike Adriano is one of them
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 6:45PM
Oh, brother. What a stupid stereotype. You're a SJW for more Latino representation in porn but you stereotype porn company owners as "rich Jews". Get a clue.
So there are more responses today and thank you all for your opinions. A few things I want to discuss. 1) this notion that Latinos aren't considered a race. Tell that to Trump and his supporter who view Mexicans as a race and stereotype any Spanish speaking person. As a "mexican". 2) The list of Latino male performers that someone brought up, the majority of them aren't Latino, they're Spanish ie Europeans and quite frankly, the list of Latino male performers has diminished yet the list of male black performers has increased. Plenty of limp dick black male performers like Jovan Jordan and Prince Yashusa but yet they're still given scenes so lack of good performers really isn't a valid excuse rather than black males just get more opportunities than Latin males. 3) To the guy who brought up black men having sex with white women as taboo and that taboo sells. Wouldn't that seem racist and isn't that my whole argument there? 4) My joke about a rich Jewish friend was tongue and cheek but there is some truth to that as Jewish people generally don't come to the aid of Latinos like they do with African Americans, how do I know? Well for starters, I'm Mexican and have 0 Jewish friends not because I'm not interested in being friends with them rather that they have no interest in me. Perhaps because Jewish people might only see Mexicans as cheap labor. 5) The black male dominance remark is actually the fact that black males dominate jobs in porn compared to Latinos and frankly any other minority and also that it puts them in the spotlight as the "only" non white option for white women 6) Greg Lansky. Someone stated that he can't be racist because he hires non white women to be in his scenes. This whole argument isn't about women but rather the men in porn. If this wasn't the case, then why didn't he create "Browned" or "yellowed" as opposed to "blacked"? 7)Whenever you see these high numbered interracial scene white women outside of the industry, such as August Ames, Elsa Jean, Sydney Cole or Kendra Sunderland, they never associate with Latin men but do black men. Coincidence? Lastly, I knew going into this that majority of you would disagree with me because there does seem to be some weird fetish about white men liking to see their women penetrated by black men ( slavery guilt Perhaps?) And of course black men will never go against anything that portrays them positively but I just wanted to share how porn chooses only 2 options for you the consumer black or white. But hey, porn can't be racist because they give jobs to hot non white females and black males right?
Anti Semite? I never said anything anti Jewish, are you Jewish? And if so, do you have any Mexican friends because I've never met a Jewish person that befriends us Mexicans in the numbers they do with blacks. Also, I don't see Jewish people coming to the aid of anti discrimination towards Latinos the way they do for black people.
All my views are based on my personal experiences and those that I know that are the same as I am. I grew up in a bad area of Los Angeles and have always worked in the west side such as Santa Monica and Beverly Hills and I can guarantee you that all I've ever encountered from Jewish people is being looked down upon and treated like a 2nd rate citizen. The same can be said about the majority of white women.
Hardware,not dominant to all races,Just the wht race.Now days the many of interracial moviesI come across are Blk male White cuckold,or Blk man satisfying poor wht married lady who apparently cant find satisfaction from her poor small pricked wht hubby.If you ever watched the gloryhole series you would see proof of what I'm saying.I watched a small part (maybe a min)of one that had a average wht soft penis hanging through one hole.In the other hole there was a BBC with 2 wht girls salivating all over it while laughing at the poor little wht p p.for the life of me I cant see how any Wht guy with anypride could jerk off to this kind of humiliation. Butt Hey to each their on .I just stopped watching most interracial porn myself and guess what?life goes on.I think we all know this guy is right but now days right has nothing to do with anything!
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Posted - Nov 18 2017 : 9:18PM
You're delusional. Saying that "Jewish people might only see Mexicans as cheap labor" IS anti-semitic for fucks sake! I'm done here. This thread is a fetid swamp.
I was quoting the OP: "My whole purpose of this topic is to show how racist it is to portray black males as dominant to all other races," so you can take it up with him.
Now because of stigmata and taboos and stereotypes, scenes with black men attract more attention than they would otherwise, so much so that are in a category unto themselves, separate from B/G. Asian and latino male performers simply do not have the stigmata attached to them that black male performers do. Period. I never heard the phrase "if you work with Asian and/or Latino men, your career will be ruined". This is suggested commonly when it comes to working with black male performers. Asian and Latino guys may not be well-represented in numbers, but the ones who are in the industry certainly aren't put on as many no lists as black male performers, because, like I said, they don't have these stigmata attached JeshbyJesh is Asian and has a nice site. The guy from ATKGirlfriends is Asian. The guy the from GDP is Latino, so is the guy from KinkyFamily. Keiran Lee is Indian. There are no restrictions with who they can work with in comparison with their black counterparts.
No restrictions? How could there be if there's only a handful of guys (Latinos and asians) to begin with? They don't need to be "blacklisted" because there's no one to be blacklisted? Again, I have yet to see any of the women I listed earlier in any scenes with anyone of Latin decent but there is plenty of scenes with them and black men. And I don't know about you but between being "blacklisted" and not being taken account for, I see the latter as a bigger insult. At least there are part of dinner table unlike non black Latinos. And for the guy who keeps saying I'm antisemitic, again when have I said anything remotely untrue or racist about Jewish people? I have personally confronted Jewish porn star and female that has scenes with black men how many Mexicans or Latinos she's slept with on and off camera and she changed the subject because she couldn't name one. See it any way you want but to ignore that black males are purposely portrayed with positive stereotypes whereas Latinos and Asian men are always portrayed in negative stereotypes is asinine.
See, now I was going to come in here and be all serious and talk about how there is a point to be made about the lack of notable Mexican-American male performers when SoCal is the center of the American porn industry, but the OP clearly has an axe to grind and isn't actually interested in debating as much as ranting. And hates Jewish people for some reason. So I will say that Latino male performers that can't pass as white (or as part black) are at a disadvantage since they aren't in demand as "fetish" performers (insomuch as "traditional interracial" is a fetish) but not as accepted as being desirable male talent as white performers. And I'll leave it at that.
I respect and thank you for your opinions. I don't hate Jewish people or anyone at that, but I am confused as to why the majority of Jewish people and white women go out of their way to defend black males but don't do the same for Mexicans or any non black Latinos and it just happens that there are a lot of Jewish people in the porn industry and the issue isn't the non presence of black males as opposed to other races. I just made some connections but it doesn't mean I dislike them. I actually do just like I like white women but I'd like to know why they don't like us?
OK so the issue is that you want white women and Jews to stick up for you in porn. Do you have examples of white women being asked to stick up for Latino men and not doing so? And, specifically, white women who do stick up for black men when asked? I'm not saying this doesn't happen. I've just never seen it. I think what's more likely is that white men have sexually fetishized black men over hundreds of years for a variety of reasons, and now want to see them fuck their white women. They haven't done the same with Latino men. I'm not saying it's right, or even that I like it. I'm just saying, that the reason for the discrepancy isn't that white women have something against Latino men. It's that they aren't given many Latino men to shoot with, by those creating the porn; those creating the porn are looking to satisfy white men's fetishes.
I don't know if there is any prejudice against Latinos in the porn industry, but there doesn't need to be for there to be a dearth of Latino male performers. Going by this thread, there's isn't much demand for Mexican/Latino studs. Sorry, Pablo. PS - The Black male/white female theme is a fetish. If it is supposed to make me feel inferior then I'm afraid it is failing miserably. I don't worry about the size of my penis, and I don't give a rat's ass if some women of my 'race' have a thing for black men. Edited by - hardware on 11/19/2017 1:26:04 AM
As I said being totally ignored , the actual issue is that many lationos don't sell themselves as such Mike Adriano is Latino but doesn't sell his muvies as latino movies and he does fuck any race in his productions Many others Latino in the past even porn producers such as TTBoy did not sold himself as Latino nor produced any Latino movie that I know of , I mean male centered latino movies It's not only a Latino behaviour , Manuel Ferrara is French, Rocco Siffredi is Italian, Nacho Vidal is Spanish , although Latin Europeans none of them stresses about racial superiority , more than that Rocco puts a lot of IR (of any kind) scenes in his movies , even making irony on the racial subject (I remember a scene with him Lex Steele, Ashli Orion and Kelly Divine , he was about to go up the ass of Ashli and referring to Lex said her: don't worry , he is the big one!
Lol, but you're white!!! The whole point of this thread is to show the imbalance and prejudice when it comes to males that are neither black nor white. It's like those who judge "immigrants" yet wouldn't dare step a foot in the strawberry fields at 100+ weather only to get paid 5 dollars an hour if that. When black people point out discrimination against them ala black lives matter or Kaepernick kneeling, it becomes a major social issue but when discrimination against Latinos occurs, no one blinks an eye. I bring up porn because there isn't another form more blatant about the issue. Majority of you won't understand because it isn't you that's being discriminated against and not taken account for and also because it's your fetish. It isn't mine but don't I have the right as a consumer to have a choice?
MOD: The OP has made more than enough anti-semetic statements to get this thread shut down. To the OP, a suggestion is you might be better received if you didn't attack other groups when trying to stand up for yours.