The Official FIRST ANAL - 2016 Edition (No DPs) (page 19)

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onlybalogna Member 721 Posts 10/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 10:58AM Perspective is part of it, but so is veracity or credibility. Honestly no one really cares about someone's first anal if it's going into the can for a year or two before we see it. We care about the one we see first. If we don't see it, then it doesn't matter. Posting about it and trying to legitimize a scene that we haven't seen accomplishes nothing excepting incensing people. [Link]
FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 12:27PM It's a riddle isn't it: If a first anal happens in the woods and no one sees it, did it really happen? [Link]
Coltyryker New Member 2 Posts 8/16	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 3:22PM This thread is such a mess. What it needs is structure and better visualization of relevant information. OP will have to regularly update it, weekly updates seem reasonable and this will help archive all the First Anal info easily and effectively. Using this format, Mods can create a mega thread Eg. FIRST ANAL INFO (1996-2015) If I want to check on an actress who has retired maybe in 2005 and I want to know when she did her first anal, I can easily go into the mega thread and search her name Eg. Ally Olsen (Anal Starters) (2nd May 2001) [Link]
Pitbull67 Senior Member 6722 Posts 12/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 5:58PM ^^Why don't we just rename the thread for next year to make it clear what the theme is? How about 'The Official FIRST RELEASED ANAL - 2017 Edition (No DPs) with 'RELEASED' defined as something like 'published and available to buy or download'. [Link]

FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 7:34PM ^^ Actually, I am already doing that. I need to get back to it soon. [Link]
Unbeliever Member 418 Posts 1/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 8:19PM I think that since technically there is an arguement for both... "1st anal actually performed by an actress on camera in her career". AND "1st anal released to the public and actually able to be viewed". I think that it is completely viable that in the cases that these are 2 seperate scenes of the same performer, that they both can be put on this thread without people spending the next 10 posts arguing about it. HOWEVER, I don't think in either case that it should be added until the scene is on the verge of being released to be viewed publically (like that day or less than a week). Who wants to know about a scene that they wont be able to see for a year or an indefinite amount of time (Yes, I'm looking at you PW). This thread it meant to be informative to people looking for first anal scenes. Having both would mean that everyone gets what they want in the same thread. Seems logical to me. But perhaps it is too rational for some. [Link]
Unbeliever Member 418 Posts 1/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 8:28PM I think that since technically there is an arguement for both... "1st anal actually performed by an actress on camera in her career". AND "1st anal released to the public and actually able to be viewed". I think that it is completely viable that in the cases that these are 2 seperate scenes of the same performer, that they both can be put on this thread without people spending the next 10 posts arguing about it. HOWEVER, I don't think in either case that it should be added until the scene is on the verge of being released to be viewed publically (like that day or less than a week). Who wants to know about a scene that they wont be able to see for a year or an indefinite amount of time (Yes, I'm looking at you PW). This thread it meant to be informative to people looking for first anal scenes. Having both would mean that everyone gets what they want in the same thread. Seems logical to me. But perhaps it is too rational for some. [Link]
FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 9:48PM I may have to rethink the database, oh man this will be a lot of work...... [Link]
Lone Wolf Senior Member LANA means ANAL :) 9658 Posts 4/11	Posted - Aug 3 2016 : 10:11PM ^ You're already doing a great job! [Link]
horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 3:12AM Flacfan is doing a great job, thanks. This whole business of classifying "released" or "un-released" 1st anals is only due to 1 person, and that's Woodman. He's the only one who will shoot a 1st anal video, but then take 3 years to edit that camcorder home video. Why would you shoot porn, and instead of releasing and monetizing the material, you just file it on your hard drive and complain about piracy ?. Shouldn't the economic impact of piracy effect the pre-production and shooting of a video, instead of post-shoot editing ? Even with Woodman's cheap production, , paying the talent, renting the hotel room, that's the cost .... editing is nothing and almost free. It's just a sham, he just wants to fuck young girls and his website provides him with legitimacy, irregardless of size, membership numbers, quality of material, etc . He has un-edited videos he's promised his small group of paying members for over 6 years, unbelievable. I'm sorry Flacfan, you should send Woodman a bill for your time ! [Link]
Pitbull67 Senior Member 6722 Posts 12/15	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 4:24AM ^^^^Surely you either change the name of the thread to make it clear what our definition of 'FIRST ANAL' is or we're going to have another year of people arguing about what it means with half the thread full of Woodman claims and bitching about him. I suspect the great majority of people on here are only really interested in what we're going to be able to buy and watch.....that year! If we change the title to: 'The Official FIRST RELEASED ANAL - 2017 Edition (No DPs) with 'RELEASED' defined as something like 'published and available to buy or download' it will make it a lot clearer what the thread is about. If people want a separate 'FIRST ANAL SHOT' thread...like was done with DPs....then they have a choice of where to go without this thread getting clogged up with all this stuff. [Link]
Coltyryker New Member 2 Posts 8/16	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 8:28AM @FlacFan Thank you sir for your hardwork. I do think it'll be fair to those hardcore fans of certain pornstars to want to know their FIRST (FIRST EVER) anal so first shot may be important to them. Keep the 1st released but add in 1st shot if anyone brings it up just so a greater audience can be appeased. You don't have to actively find 1st shot but if it comes up (someone informs you, etc... less work load if its community driven), add it next to the 1st released. This way both parties get what they want and having better documentation is always a plus. [Link]
Dildoslime Member 177 Posts 4/09	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 9:59AM Why not just make two threads. First anal released. First PW anal. That way, he might stay out of here. He is, after all, the cause of the only real friction in this thread. [Link]
FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 10:23AM I understand that the original idea years ago was to report only released/shot scenes, but it seems to me at least half the fun is the conversation and speculation. Every year, as I've looked through the threads, gathering info for the database, at least half the fighting is about people trying to keep the thread "pure" for lack of a better term, only reporting confirmed scenes. So how about this: For 2017 we just have a first anal thread with the only rule being respect each other, not taking dislikes of a studio/performer as a personal attack. If people want to speculate or bitch or whatever, it's all good. Someone usually has a "tally" going by April anyway and we are all pretty good about accurate reporting, Edit: I agree about keeping the DP's separated, unless it's a girls first anal I'm FlacFan and that's my opinion Edited by - FlacFan on 8/4/2016 11:26:25 AM [Link]

PIERRE WOODMAN Senior Member The Atrax 1487 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 4:17PM I'm not here to create any friction between people, i'm just doing my job and I don't understand why some morons complain all the time about release date because it's obvious if I shoot 400 anal in a year I can't put all in a row !!! So where is the logic ? I shot less and then I miss to be the first for so many girls or I do what I actually do without pay attention to those who don't understand why all can't be release the day they want ??? Guess what I prefer to do ... I know if all people complaining here were right, my business will be closed since long time but in fact it's the opposite and every year it's better and better and I have more and more members. So please haters, find another occupation, because all your complains are only disturbing others but not me ... And if we are back to the concret things, the pre-sales box with Natalia Starr reached 100% today, so her first anal will be online in few hours ... I will put a new link when it will be ready tonight or tomorrow morning !!! PW [Link]
FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 4:28PM No PW, calling you on your circular logic. You hoard. and try to extort more money for releases, from the very people that are already members. Only when a vastly superior product threatens to usurp your first status release wise, do you rush out a "whoa i just got this done" shoot, which I find hilarious because you also state all the time it doesn't matter when it is released. Well, I have worked on digital video and free programs like Movie Maker reduce editing to a basic level that even an idiot like me can do it fairly well. You are a hoarder, nothing wrong with that I suppose, except you hurt the TALENT by holding back releases that could advance their careers and screw over your customers. In summary: The whole basis of your repeatedly stated position is bullshit. I'm FlacFan and that's my opinion Edited by - FlacFan on 8/4/2016 4:51:41 PM [Link]
valmir08 Member 12 Posts 7/11	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 9:02PM Will you guys shut the fuck up, nobody cares who,where,when or what, only reason people check this post is to see who's got a scene coming out, it don't matter who shot it or when, if the scene comes out first then it gets posted period, stop bitching all the time just page after page of the same old arguments. [Link]
madman16 Member Gape Big or Go Home 898 Posts 6/12	Posted - Aug 4 2016 : 9:05PM ^That At the end of the day, i understand the argument but basically i don't give a fuck [Link]
PIERRE WOODMAN Senior Member The Atrax 1487 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 4:29AM Her first anal on video is coming today ... Natalia Starr first anal PW [Link]
coolfonz Member 465 Posts 3/08	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 11:44AM valmir08 wrote: Will you guys shut the fuck up, nobody cares who,where,when or what, only reason people check this post is to see who's got a scene coming out, it don't matter who shot it or when, if the scene comes out first then it gets posted period, stop bitching all the time just page after page of the same old arguments. Click to expand Thus thread is always just a yearly bitch fest. [Link]
Jackstah Member 531 Posts 3/07	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 12:29PM I've always thought that second anals/return to anal for people who do 1 anal and then leave it for 4 years should almost be counted because sometimes they're more important than the first. Like if Dillion Harper did a second anal it would still be noteworthy since all she has done so far is LTA. Same w people who do woodman and then have their release extorted from release until someone else releases the second anal. [Link]
PIERRE WOODMAN Senior Member The Atrax 1487 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 1:03PM So where is this scene you are speaking about ??? PW [Link]
hmonkey Member 56 Posts 9/06	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 4:37PM ^ Dillion Harper? http://www.mofos.com/tour/scene/beach-booty/1496/ [Link]
horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 4:51PM New European model Cassie Fire 1st anal scene at 21sextury.com http://www.famehosted.com/2/207/flash_hd/48603/116447/120/475_ffb7b_01.html?pr=8&su=1&ad=205361 http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/cassie-fire.html Edited by - horndogger on 8/5/2016 4:52:17 PM [Link]

FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 5 2016 : 7:03PM ^ NICE ONE DOGGER!!!! [Link]
verginanalluver Member 437 Posts 12/11	Posted - Aug 6 2016 : 1:05AM Zelda Morrison first anal for Adriano... https://twitter.com/Assdam13/status/761747951844728832 [Link]
PIERRE WOODMAN Senior Member The Atrax 1487 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 10 2016 : 6:23PM First anal released yes but her first anal ( and DP ) was in May this year. and same with Cassie Fire who started porn with me June 20. 2016 PW [Link]
AggieGuy Member 357 Posts 7/15	Posted - Aug 10 2016 : 7:18PM Yawn Another one I won't be wasting my bandwidth on. [Link]
Pitbull67 Senior Member 6722 Posts 12/15	Posted - Aug 10 2016 : 8:15PM Is anyone out there getting a bit irritated that this seems to be becoming the Pierre Woodman scene advertising thread?! Looked at the 'Etiquette' section that covers all 'Adult DVD Talk' Forums and it quite clearly states in relation to this: "Please Do Not Use Our Forum as a Mean to Get Free Advertising"......"You may post press releases in our Porn News forum if they are relevant. You may post a link to your sites in your forum profile.".........."Links with affiliate codes attached are not acceptable. They will be removed and your account deactivated. If it appears that you are posting simply to advertise your website we will email you about this. If you continue to use our forum for free advertising and not discussion we will deactivate your account." Tushy and other websites advertise their 'exclusives' on their dedicated threads. They don't abuse this thread by coming on here. I'm not knocking Pierre's work and don't have any particular issue with him. It's just pretty obvious that posting updates of individual scenes (as has happened on numerous occasions) is blatant advertising and should be removed. Surely Pierre should not be posting on here at all (unless about issues unrelated to his 'product') as it goes against the rules that govern not just this thread but all 'Adult DVD Talk' threads. I'm sure Woodman fans will keep the thread up to speed with any news of first anals from his sites without Pierre advertising them here himself. Any moderators out there want to comment? Edited by - Pitbull67 on 8/10/2016 8:17:36 PM [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Aug 10 2016 : 9:00PM ^I'm not but I am seriously getting tired of reading the constant bitching whenever he post anything. I get it. You don't like him and you don't like his brand of porn. I do like his brand of porn and I don't really care all that much if I have to wait for him to release a specific scene. I know that sooner or later he will release it and I still get plenty of other unexpected scenes while I wait for the one that I really want. I'll finish by saying that you do realise that many women have done their first and sometime only anal(s) with Pierre and I don't think it's just a question of the money he pays them. There has to be more behind their reason to trust him and this is something that goes back decades. End of rant. [Link]
shalalin Senior Member 1734 Posts 11/07	Posted - Aug 10 2016 : 9:12PM pat362 wrote: I do like his brand of porn and I don't really care all that much if I have to wait for him to release a specific scene. Click to expand You're in the wrong thread, then, given that it's primarily about scenes actually released, unlike the pointless PW post just above. The Woodman fan (aka self-promotion) thread can be found elsewhere. And yes, Woodman is quite clearly getting away with behaviour that would have seen almost any other industry person (let alone regular posters) censured by now. Maybe it's because he's so well-versed at playing the victim. Edited by - shalalin on 8/10/2016 9:21:23 PM [Link]
Pitbull67 Senior Member 6722 Posts 12/15	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 3:48AM Just seen that Nina Elle first anal will be released on 29th August on Archangel. [Link]
FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 5:39AM ^^ I could not agree more. Edited by - FlacFan on 8/11/2016 5:40:19 AM [Link]
Pitbull67 Senior Member 6722 Posts 12/15	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 6:18AM pat362 wrote: ^I'm not but I am seriously getting tired of reading the constant bitching whenever he post anything. I get it. You don't like him and you don't like his brand of porn. I do like his brand of porn and I don't really care all that much if I have to wait for him to release a specific scene. I know that sooner or later he will release it and I still get plenty of other unexpected scenes while I wait for the one that I really want. I'll finish by saying that you do realise that many women have done their first and sometime only anal(s) with Pierre and I don't think it's just a question of the money he pays them. There has to be more behind their reason to trust him and this is something that goes back decades. End of rant. Click to expand No need to be a Pierre apologist to me my friend, I've also subscribed to his site and have never criticised his brand of porn or his methods. The only thing that I've argued before is that this thread should from the start of next year become for first anal released with a separate thread for first anal shot...and earlier in this thread Pierre supported this himself...so that can hardly be put down as Woodman 'bitching'. My point is really simple. There are rules governing the conduct of not just this thread but all Adult DVD Talk threads. Pierre is quite blatantly ignoring these rules by using this thread to publicise his 'product'. I reckon he's done this around 20 times alone this year and around 10 times he's simply posted pictures advertising a new scene with a direct link! Such postings should (according to Adult DVD Talk etiquette) be put in dedicated 'Porn News' Forums, or perhaps via the specific Woodman Castings thread.....which I already follow, like I'm sure you do. I have absolutely no problem with you or anyone else posting on here about one of Pierre's updates in exactly the same way that followers of Legalporno, Tushy etc do on here already. The people who run Tushy, Legalporno, MyVeryFirstTime, MOFOs (Let's Try Anal) etc don't come on here trying to solicit custom by directly advertising their updates with direct links but this is always done by simple followers of this thread like you and me. Whether you like it or not (and I suspect not!)....them's the rules. There is a whole paragraph in the 'Etiquette' section above entitled: 'Please Do Not Use Our Forum as a Mean to Get Free Advertising'. [Link]

FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 6:50AM ^ DING! Winner! [Link]
PIERRE WOODMAN Senior Member The Atrax 1487 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 6:55AM OK sorry guys, I thought this tread was made as an information place for all fans about FIRST ANAL DONE and must have a clear specification in case it was just a FIRST ANAL RELEASE !!! As a porn lover myself since so many years I think the difference is huge and must be specified but it's not my forum and I don't want be a subject of troubles anymore in this section, so from now i'm done with this tread and will put in the "pierre-woodman-castings" or girl treads what I have to said or show ... PW [Link]
Dildoslime Member 177 Posts 4/09	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 1:50PM [Link]
jman25 New Member 5 Posts 7/15	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 2:31PM Agree with pitbull67... I never complain about Pierre but his constant posts take away from the quality of the forum and he is 100% abusing the advertising rules. Pierre - Let the quality of your work speak for itself and allow your fans to post on your behalf here. Enough is enough. [Link]
Rjhose Member Ooh yeah 118 Posts 6/14	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 2:49PM Fucking finally.... Really hope that's the end of it. Please who ever is creating the FIRST ANAL thread next year specifically mention the words RELEASED in it. Now let's get on with it and keep this thread about FIRST ANALS and nothing more. Just do it [Link]
horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04	Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 10:37PM First anal released .... a whole separate thread because Woodman can't find approx 30 minutes of time, or hire the staff, to edit a hotel room camcorder video ! He breaks so many promises to his small group of paying members, he could change his name to Pinocchio. No trailers, no picture galleries, no file compression ... just an easy edit, home video quality video. The quality is same / similar to "clips for sale", or "mompov.com", or "backroomcastingcouch.com". All of these sites have 1st anal scenes all the time, yet nobody posts about those sites because their considered "amateur". On average Woodman releases 10% of what he shoots, which is perhaps the most ridiculous business model ever ..... until you understand the gig. It's basically enough to maintain a small membership, pay for hotel rooms, camcorder battery charges and talent. It's basically legalized sex and more about his personal enjoyment. If that's his approach, fine, just don't come here and rant about piracy, hijack threads, self-promote, tell us stories of how "her ass was sooo tight, ohh la la" ..... we're all just porn hounds, we just want to see the girls having sex. Let's move on with this thread .... thank goodness. Tushy has an exclusive being announced in 15 hours ! Let's wait and see ... [Link]
apollo170 Member 146 Posts 10/14	Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 2:08PM Harley Jade for Tushy!!!!! [Link]
critix Member 123 Posts 2/16	Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 6:17PM Nina Elle 1st Anal directed by Kendra Lust at Archangel [mod edit: image removed. see the image policy. No sex acts.* Posting only the front cover would be OK.]* Edited by - critix on 8/12/2016 6:20:42 PM Edited by - killbillvol69 on 8/12/2016 6:36:52 PM [Link]
however Senior Member Your boyfriend doesn't know about me and your mother 2134 Posts 6/09	Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 10:47PM apollo170 wrote: Harley Jade for Tushy!!!!! Click to expand Oh yeah, putting that great ass to work! [Link]
coming soon Senior Member 1705 Posts 2/11	Posted - Aug 13 2016 : 7:22AM Super hot Peyton Sweet for Brazzers [Link]
FlacFan Deactivated User 10088 Posts 8/15	Posted - Aug 13 2016 : 9:33AM ^ Nice One! [Link]
Unsanitized Member 608 Posts 12/13	Posted - Aug 14 2016 : 12:20AM Sara St. Clair just shot her first anal scene on August 13. [Link]
A-ten Deactivated User 581 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 14 2016 : 10:09AM coming soon wrote: Super hot Peyton Sweet for Brazzers Click to expand Me likey. [Link]
VernonCole Member 130 Posts 5/14	Posted - Aug 15 2016 : 10:33AM Jessica Ryan 1st Anal [Link]
critix Member 123 Posts 2/16	Posted - Aug 15 2016 : 2:59PM Nina Elle 1st and Only Anal Shocking news [Link]
oldboi Deactivated User 205 Posts 3/10	Posted - Aug 15 2016 : 10:01PM Looking more to be proven wrong here, but "Little Anal Vixxxens" Nicole Clitman and Emma Hix. Never seen them before. Is this their first anals? If not, can anyone point me to any more of their ANAL scenes? [Link]