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Toylover
Member

Switzerland
47 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 11 2003 : 5:18PM
hey boys

i'm one big fan of the private productions dating from about 1997 to 2001. especially i love monique covet, silvia saint, laura angel etc.

i lost track a bit now. can any guy of you tell me if theres something new and hot from private.

and by the way: does anyone know where monique covet is. is she still in the business? perhaps working under another pseudonym?

thanx for answering

Dildoing, Pussy licking and fingering, Cunnie and ass fucking. Thats the way i like it!

Toylover
Member

Switzerland
47 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 11 2003 : 5:42PM
come on guys i am sure there some of you who have watched private films. lets talk a bit!
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Nov 11 2003 : 6:21PM
Toylover,

Give it some time before throwing in an additional comment. At your location is it evening, but it's midafternoon or earlier here, and in other time zones it's sleepy time.

Remember, this is a forum, not a chat room. You will get some answers.

DenverDon

Toylover
Member

Switzerland
47 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 11 2003 : 6:25PM
thanx don!
bigpussy
Member

250 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 11 2003 : 8:36PM
Monique Covét.

laura angel .


I hope you don't get offended by my response but I am just baffled beyond belief. I know everyone is entitled to his own special taste. But the reason I got hooked on Private was the enormous choice of naturally endowed sluts. Especially during 97-2001. Wanda curtis, Amanda Steele, Julia Taylor, Cassandra Wild, Grety..... too many to mention.

If you have been locked in solitary maybe you missed Private's latest "natural" bombshell, Michelle Wild. She might be able to cure that silicone affliction.

If you still need that silicone fix try Jodie Moore. Private star with additives.


 
p_ramezap
Senior Member

1550 Posts
5/03
Posted - Nov 11 2003 : 11:32PM
I was also a big fan of Private from mid 90s to early 2002.
Two reasons, 1- at that time Private was the premiere company giving us the euro sluts like American actresses would only dream about looking like them, they gave us Nikki Anderson, Silvia Saint, and Michelle Wild just to name a few. Once American companies saw the potential in euro chicks they also started making films using euro girls and eventually, Private ended up sharing the pool of euro chicks with American companies.

2, Pierre Woodman took the Private films to the new highs, raising the bar very high. After he left, Private's films have not been just as good, you can tell the difference between a Woodman movie compared to any one else. Woodman thrived o using hot fresh first timers in his films, but that is not the case with current directors, just pick any 3 or 4 films of Private and compare the cast list, they look very much the same. That's why, I personally don't care for their product very much these days.

Cheezy Bell-End
Member

Australia
44 Posts
5/03
Posted - Nov 12 2003 : 2:53AM
I was a fan about 1993-1994 from the first volume and around the time Draghixa was working for them. Their movies were quite different then. Fresh and attractive. Now, I find them formulaic and uninteresting. The girls look good, but somehow the content does nothing for me. It's like they are complacent that they have hit on the right sexual formula with the grinning to camera whilst being banged anally etc, but try too hard with distracting special effects or body paint etc.
In addition, where I am, Private products are more expensive and the value for money just isn't there for me..
I don't see myself buying Private ever again unless they change tack substantially.
balabala
Member

968 Posts
8/02
Posted - Nov 12 2003 : 8:57AM
p_ramezap explanations are pretty much what I am feeling toward Private nowadays. I used to be a BIG fan, but my interest seems to be dwindling down. Many posters like Sbando, Speelie and Wally saw the decline in Private since PW left the company. I was an optimistic about the situation and hoped the quality of the products would remain the same, but it has finnaly caught up with me and I am starting to see the decline for Private.

I am a big fan of the Private starlets of the mid 90's to the early 2002 era. Girls like Nikky Andersson, Cassandra Wild, Sophie Evans, Wanda Curtis, Olga Martinez, Claudia Ricci, Lynn Stone, Julia Taylor, Rita Faltoyano, Michelle Wild, Lea De Mae, etc... Most of these girls were brought in the porn business by PW himself.

There is still lots of great actress in Private movies but you can see them in other productions that are better in quality. The best example would be Lucy Lee, Lenka/Natalie, Alyssa, Jane Durling, etc... The non Private movies of these actress are much more better then what you can find in recently produced Private discs.

Edited by - balabala on 11/12/2003 9:08:58 PM

Cyberchicken
Member

900 Posts
4/02
Posted - Nov 12 2003 : 1:40PM
Does anyone remember the name of the first Private movie released in the US? I think it was simply called Private #1, but I'm not sure.

It was the very first movie I saw that had any ass to mouth. I was pretty shocked by that level of nastiness, but I liked what I saw.

CC

ricwilli46
Private USA

19 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 12 2003 : 8:06PM
Actually, Julia Taylor is our hottest new star and can be seen in the just released super-production of Cleopatra. Also in the movie are favorites Michelle Wild, Rita F., Bobbi Eden. Look for a new line of Gonzo produced by Skeeter Kerkove who just signed a contract with us using all new 18-19 year old girls. We will be adding new European girls as we find them, and will continue award winning directors in Europe like Kovi. In the US we will be shooting some movies with top directors and stars. We thank all of you who supported us in the past, and think you will really appreciate the new content coming out next year.

Ric Williams
President/COO
Private Media Group

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Nov 12 2003 : 8:15PM
ricwilli46,

Welcome to the forum. It's always a pleasure to see another studio rep/head posting and joining in our little family.

DenverDon

skronker
Notable Legendary Icon

Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Nov 12 2003 : 11:56PM
Have to add to this that, when I first encountered Private -- the zines and the vids -- around 1995, I was hooked, but basically found that the action was vastly hotter when the same girls found their way into Evil Angel productions -- Christoph and Rocco and Buttman euro features, mainly -- and now, with the influx of Eurobabes into US-made porn, there really is no contest. I think I rented a tape about 2 years ago and was disappointed, but I also found Woodman's Hustler videos (at least the first batch, I don't know after that) to be really lame. Everything edited down, no naturalism to the action. A waste of time. What Private had going for it was THE GIRLS and THE STUDS and what was for the time "raw sex" in porn. But they have been so rapidly eclipsed on each and every front (except cheesiness and pretension) that they are a total joke. But, they do have really fresh and beautiful women and costumes and makeup and all of that, and if that's what people like then that's groovy. I'll take some of Christoph's "Beautiful Girls" playing "Hardball" with their "Big Natural Tits" in a Heaven full of "Euro Angels" and "fun tunnels," anyday of any week.

But then, I ain't saying anything I haven't said already.

Marker
Member

49 Posts
1/00
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 12:35AM
Bring back Caroline Rouge, Caroline Cage, Monica Cameron and make The Private Life of Eva Black then I'll be a big fan of Private again :)
Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 2:59AM
Altho Evil Angel, RLD, Ana/Dia and others produce far more superior hardcore scenes, I still check out Private's stuff on a regular basis and have been a loyal fan since I first saw one of their beautiful magazines back in the early 90's.

Mr. Williams, thank you for letting us know what is going on with your company and welcome to the forum! I think you will find ADT a great place to learn what porn fans from around the world are most interested in, altho don't be too discouraged if all you see concerns double anal.

camaban
Member

Germany
437 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 5:19AM
skronker is totally right. I was a big fan from about 1995 until Woodman left Private. Since then they only have directors which sets the topic of art over hot rough sex.

Look at Adamo. After releasing his first videos for Private I found his new style very good. But if you seen more of them then his special lightning, the black and white repeats, etc. which stands for his style are just boring. The girls are very pretty, they do anal and dp, but the sex is lame. Same with most of the other Private directors.

I hope that Skeeter will bring them back again to the road of good Gonzo. But for the moment I prefer companies like Evil Angel and RLD, especially Christoph Clark (his latest videos are all fantastic).

I also was a big fan of Woodman, but since his change to Hustler his videos are also lame and boring. IMHO he couldn't should good gonzo. The sex in his Hustler videos is stereotypic and without any heat. Look at Superfuckers. In his Private days every volume has one scene called "Wild Camera". This was the highlight of the series. In Hustler Superfuckers the "Wild Camera" is gone, instead you see 2 photo shootings, which are totally unnecessary.

 
Mephisto
Member

14 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 6:45AM
What about the Private big-budget (and big price) releases, like Gladiator, Pyramids, Cleopatra, Riviera etc. What do people think of those - worth the money?

Mephisto

Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 6:59AM
I enjoyed 'The Tower' trilogy but since then I've gone off the films more and more as the budget has gotten bigger. I've owned 'The Pyramid' trilogy on DVD for years and I've only ever bothered watching the first part, it just leaves me a bit cold.

I preferred the older stuff - Lady in Spain/ Virgin Treasures etc but times move on I suppose and so have I.

SNP.

Lee O
Forearm Trainer

mmmmmmm........ after-birth
1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 7:53AM
The Tatiana trilogy hits the mark pretty well for me . Plenty of replay value there . On the other hand Gladiator left me frustrated . All those beautiful women , but not the film for me I guess . Too much focus on the production values at the expense of the sex ? Maybe .

Do/Did Private make any discs that would be considered gonzo , other than Castings and Superfuckers ? Most of their output seems to be features , which is great for me , but will probably end up alienating most of the posters to this forum ( regardless of how well done they are ) . Seeing the 'young girls do filthy things' US version of Euro girls isn't what floats my boat so I'll leave those to others . But you've all gotta admit that ADT posters are hardly representative of porn viewers in general . Each company appears to focus on its own share of the market , and Private does as well in features as most . Having said that , it would be nice to see more true passion in the sex scenes .

Maybe Private should offer Laura Angel a directing contract , to scoop her up from the arms of Metro . She's a big favourite of mine too , and it would be nice to see her in more Private releases . I wish Dorcel would hire her again , Salieri too , but that's another story ....

Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 8:17AM
My personal definition of gonzo is somewhat different (and narrower) than most on these boards, but going by the definition most people use then I think the Matador series would have to count.

I thought the Tatiana series was quite good as was a few other from that period (I think That$ Life I and II was around then) but for me things started to go downhill around 1995-96 after which the output becomes a bit mixed in my view, in many cases losing much of the early charm and its european feel replacing it with a more global corporate veneer

SNP.

Lee O
Forearm Trainer

mmmmmmm........ after-birth
1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 8:35AM
Oh god , sandwiched by Prescott ! It's like one of my worst nightmares come to life . If you're not careful I'll post some pics of Margaret Thatcher's secret lesbo romps with Anne Widdecombe !

John Prescott , a second rate boxer but only a third rate Deputy Prime Minister .

Addendum - Margaret Thatcher and Anne Widdecombe have never to my knowledge engaged in the nasty together . All imaginings of such activity should be conducted within quick dashing distance of a toilet . This health warning was brought to you by Lee INC .


PS : Nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about .... probably .

camaban
Member

Germany
437 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 12:24PM
The Pyramid, Tatiana, Riviera are all pretty good, like most of the films Woodman did for Private. The only thing I have to complaint about these movies is the dubbing sound.

Gladiator just isn't my thing. It's from Adamo and therefore the main focus is on the production value, not on the sex.

van c
Member

16 Posts
7/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 1:29PM
Some of the first adult films I saw where private titles, such as the Tower. I saw this title on video which had english subtitles on, at that time I couldnt believe what I was reading in parts of the film. I believe that private have now discontinued this title, possibly because of certain scenes (forced sex and incest).

I really miss the talking in the sex scenes in the recent private titles, before he left private P Woodman seemed to move away from any dilogue when any shagging was going on, just dubbed moaning and groaning.

See ya

ricwilli46
Private USA

19 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 2:06PM
WOW!! Great comments! I would have to agree with some, Private has not been a real contender in the Gonzo market, although some of our lines are close. We are changing the X-TREME series to be true wall to wall Gonzo with 18 movies done in the US (12 by Skeeter, and 6 to be assigned) and 18 in Europe. We will still be doing a couple of super-productions like Cleopatra a year and then a multitude of other features under our Gold, Black Label, Sports and other lines. I think that you will find the content moving back to the old Private...we want to be leading edge with high quality...BUT...remember that we are a public company, so may not be as daring as others. No ATM's, no 2 dicks(or other objects) in one hole. We do fear Ashcroft, as being a public company we become a big target, and if they arrest anyone it will be me!!
Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 5:38PM
man, you really made me laugh my ass out. ..But don't worry ricwilli46, Nobody is asking you to go crazy with the 2 dicks in one hole theme in your movies. Although; you guys have a copilations video with exactly those words as a title that was released like 3 years ago, were not you a puplic company then?? ....But like I said never mind about that (just wondering) ..what I would like to say as an old Private fan is that if you guys want to recapture my attention to your product again. Please: Get a director that will stay away from using in his videos all those annoying special efects. Get a director that will stay away from slow motion, from black and white loops, from fast editing. Get a director that won't use heavy make up on the girl's faces. I want to see natural beauties. Get a director that will make 150 minutes movies like the Private Gold and early Black Label series used to be. Really guys what's with the 75, 85, 90, 95, 101 minutes videos you make these days!? ..get a director that will show anal & dp but won't portrait those sex acts as "soft and pretty" as possible. And last but not least. Get a director that will use new, fresh girls, that nobody has used before. Honestely. I have not interest in watching a Private video where most of the girls in it have done like 100 videos already. ....Oh before I forget, and I shouldn't be saying this 'cos Private is suppose to be an european company but get a director that will work with european girls mostly. ..If you ever get a director like the one described above I'll spend my money in your product again. Until then I rather spend it somewhere else the way I do it now. I really miss you guys but I refuse to watch what you are doing right now.
The Creeper
Member

86 Posts
12/01
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 6:05PM
That's reassuring to hear. I used to be a complete Private junkie but I'm afraid I have very little interest in your product these days - though Adamo can still conjure some magic on occasion. I can only echo what other guys are saying: bring us new, intriguing faces, rather than endlessly recycling the same harem, beautiful though those girls may be. Much of the power of pornography is in 'The thrill of the new', a theory that founding father Berthe Milton believed in. These days, if I pick up a new Private DVD on the shelf it usually takes one glimpse of the cast list to make me place it back on the shelf. Give us back the frisson of discovery, the instant arousal of new names, new faces, new bodies, new attitudes. And ease away from the sunny blandness of the Tropical line, or the strange, overpainted pantomime that Kovi peddles. Return to us the Private ethos we loved - the edgy, cosmopolitan, contemporary, inherently European vibe of old, where beautiful, glamorous girls who appeared to be plucked from the catwalks of Milan or the cafes of Budapest did impossibly hot and nasty things as the cameras watched and we salivated. Reinject that edge. Look to your own Private magazines, which are now hornier than your videos and DVDs. Find a way of using that talent, imagination and attitude in the visual medium. You've made a good start by letting John Palmer direct. And, above all, however much money it takes, however much pride must be swallowed - on whichever side - find a way of returning the keys of the kingdom to Pierre Woodman. You need each other, like Lennon and McCartney. Give us back the Beatles. A lot of us have had enough of Wings...

Good luck with it all. Looking forward to the journey home.

 
scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 10:49PM
As someone who's been purchasing Private products since it was only a Magazione publisher, and have followed the progree through video and now to DVD (I still have my "flipper"-format Pyramid DVDs, and probably over 200 Private DVDs) I feel it's worth sticking my nose into this discussion.

I have to both agree and disagree with some of the thoughts posted here regarding Private. While I do like to see some new girls, I also really like seeing particular faces again and again and again.

After all, as p_ramezap and balabala stated so well, the Woodman era brought us stars who became huge also sold many a DVD on their name value alone, Sylvia Saint, Monique Covet, Cassandra Wilde, Laura Angel, Sophie Evans and so on, just look at the Private Life of series to see that quality stars will sell, and sell well.

There are quite a few companies out there that seem to have lots of "fresh new faces" in their product, but on examination of their front and back boxcovers, the faces might be new but often don't look so fresh, and honestly a quote from our good friend Mike Quasar comes to mind when he spoke of his former employer basically putting anyone with a pulse in their features. (and I'm not referring to either Q-man's old or current employers with my above comments).

I have to say that I also overall enjoy Adamo's work, but it works well as a counterpoint to Woodman for me, while I don't like Ninn's stuff at all, and Kovi varies from workmanlike and acceptable in his Black Label productions to a total waste of time and talent in the Fetish Machine series. Honestly I canot fathom why a company like Private would keep pushing out that trash where the main "fetish" theme simply seemed to be stupid-looking makeup to spoil every otherwise-gorgeous woman in every production.

The Reality series was something I bought a couple of, but quickly became apparrent that the value simply was not and is not there at the same price point as other Private features, or product from other companies. If the Reality seies (or whatever the Private Magazine-format series morphs to next) cost, say 75% of what a regular Private disc cost, then it may well be worthwhile.

Back to "star power" for a second, there are several newer performers who are easily "Private material" to be the newest Laura Angels and Silvia Saints. Some that come to mind who have already appeared in Private productions are Sandra Ring/Iron, Black Widow, and also Katja Kassin who has only been in one Private DVD so far. My point here is that while new faces are always good to see, that established stars will keep those of us who like to see our favorites buying (and your "Private Life of.." sales figures should show).

On a different tangent, I bought a bunch of Private magazines recently for the first time in years, and there are some serious content/quality problems with them compared to a few years ago. Since this thread is about DVDs I won't go any further into it, but if you have a feedback email you could supply for some constructive comments I'd welcome it.

Back to the topic at hand, and to finish up, I've always been one of Private's biggest fans on these boards, but in the last year I've found myself buying many more DVDs from other companies than Private, which was never the case before now. It's heartening to see some interaction here from Private, which has been lacking since Roger disappeared a couple of years ago.

Oh yes, and as Marker said, we're still waiting on a Private Life of Eva Black/Mercedies

cheers,

scipio

Ultrasiet
Member

Maya Gold, will you marry me?
220 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 3:36AM
Hey everyone. Interesting reading scipio's comments regarding Private, and indeed everyone's experiences with the company. I thought I'd throw my two cents in. I hope people from Private are listening.

Firstly, in Australia, the thing that is killing everyone's interest in Private is the shoddy production of the DVD's. For example, the Private Life Of... line here is a joke, because be it Calvista, or Axis, or Adultshop, or whichever shoddy operator is producing the films locally, they are only selling one of the two discs at a stupidly high price. Go to some of the not-so-technically-legal operators and you find while the price is better, thepicture quality and extras range pales in comparison to the imported Euro/US product. My copy of THE BRIDE IN BLACK is just appalling. A waste of $AU 60.00. There is a light pulse on the disc and the vendor I bought it from insisted there wasn't a problem with it. These DVD's are transferred from a PAL video, and boy it shows. They are inferior product. Worse still, the company producing them has put an import imbargo on them, so that some other vendors that were importing the US versions and selling them at reasonable cost are now prevented from doing so. So, the choice is the 'neutered' versions we have. And frankly, as a man who values the money he spends on porn, I either want a Private original, or nothing.

Then comes the other problem: Mr Ric Williams, you may claim you're a publicly listed company and as such cannot depict acts such as double-anal, yet do you realise Private films are some of the most commonly banned films in Australia? Many of Woodman's CASTINGS and recently THE WILD CIRCLE have received Refused-Classification-Ratings. Friends I know who have bought from the US, Private titles which otherwise have been classified as legal films here, have had their copies of such films confiscated, especially those with 'fetish' in the title or fetishy looking covers. This isn't Private's problem of course, who can predict Australia's irrational censors, but (a) obviously there is content in your films which does push the envelope enough to get the film banned, at least by some people's standards (I haven't seen an RLD or ZT or PXP title get banned yet) and (b) that import imbargo is putting a lot of the hardcore porn fans, the guys that spend a lot of money on porn, off buying your products. Oh sure, they still sell to couples and people who don't know better, but those of us who do, and can't be bothered playing the lottery with Aussie Customs, it just makes us not want to watch Private.

Now, technicalities aside, I am going to put my hand up and say Kovi is one of the most maligned directors around, and I'm not sure why. I saw his NO JOB NO BLOW recently, (the US version a friend sent me) and it was bloody excellent. The vignettes worked well, the sex was hot (oh Maya Gold, what a score, she looks much better here than in EURO GIRLS NEVER SAY NO 2) and the aesthetic worked. Now I agree he often misfires - DOMINATRIX CHESS GAMBIT didn't hold up to inspection, and FETISH TV should have been much better given the cast and idea - but I don't understand the claims of Kovi being nothing more than a face make-up director. I admit most of my porn bought is gonzo, and I am grateful Kovi gives us something a little different. Sure, I'd prefer Tanya Hyde was still around, and I'm not sure Susie Medusa Gottardi is the answer as the future of Fetish Machine, but I do think Kovi does focus on the sex - admittedly a pantomimic, stylised version - and as much as Michelle Wild made his films good, I think having him as a director did her a favour as well.

The Reality line really is filler material it seems. Sort of what the Private XXX lines were. I have little time for either Adamo or Woodman actually. Thring and Hyde were Private for me when I liked them. Why couldn't more of Private have mimicked the first scene in the Academy with Lexington Steele, Rumica and Sylvia Saint? Great costumes, enthusiastic sex, atmospheric lighting. Thring also coordinated a sweet end-of-film orgy...but he went downhill, and Hyde disappeared. Then Jean Yves Le Castel brought his Matador game to town and it really went off with a bang at time - 5, 6, 7 and 10 were all fine porn flicks - but he got bad really quickly.

Mr Williams, the recycling of Private scenes into Private Best Of... is just cluttering the shelves which stuff which should be new but isn't. In this sense, Private is suffering from '2-Pac-itis'. It's irritating. You look like a company that has run out of ideas and it saddens me, because there's really no reason you shouldn't be producing fine, fine, hot, nasty films which make everyone who believes gonzo is the only place where hot sex still exists, sit up and say, 'Oh, the illusion of the narrative porn film still has some bang in it.' Yet, I look at your new films and I think - nope, they're coasting now, just happy to pick up the porn casual buyers and ignoring the discerning viewers. The popularity of your Private Life Of... lines - a great idea but essentially just a better organised 'Best Of' series - should attest to your basking-in-old-glory ways.

I am getting tired of gonzo, I admit. Those interested in shooting good sex often sacrifice the illusion of 'the story', making porn essentially 'reality TV'. Yet if feature films and the 'soap opera' porn films which Private used to do well are this bad, gonzo is all we have left for excitement. Private is, I believe, the one company that can change that, and when you decide to discipline your film-producing and produce a coherent, exciting vision, let me know.

-------------"I am woman. Hear me whore."----------------

Edited by - Ultrasiet on 11/14/2003 3:37:20 AM

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 4:09AM
Private use to be my favorite company around 1994-1998. I was a HUGE fan of their Triple-X serie, every volume was just a winner and the same for every Woodman movie. I'm afraid they went downhill pretty fast after Woodman left and replaced him with softer directors like Adamo, Kovi and Ninn. The same goes for the models they use. Woodman always got the best looking girls but now they're not that special anymore, just normal looking pornstars. I miss the old Private for sure!



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