Really wish studios would make more bald pussy porn, its not like this can't grow back if they want to shoot hairy stuff later...

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My personal tastes change as I get older. While there's a constant influx of new, gradually hotter, women joining the industry, I tend to gravitate toward women closer to my own age... more Dee Williams than the newest waif on HH.

While enduring the nuttiness of '20 I've had a bit of free time. I have downloaded a ton of fantastic material from places I had never considered in the past. There are sites that are no-longer producing content that offer scenes that are right up my alley.

The only conflict I have found is that the progress in production quality has rendered some of my favorite (classic?) scenes unwatchable.

I still can't put my finger on WHY Monica Sweetheart is the standout performer of her generation (or ever?). I'm just happy I can still find her scenes.

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How often to people discuss the details of an political election 2 elections ago? Or who won the grand final of whatever sport 10 years ago... or even last year? Or who won the most gold medals at the Olympic games in a particular event on 2008? New information is well, new. There is a good chance that people haven't not heard it before and might be interested. Old is information is well... old. Only interesting to those that somehow missed it at the time despite for some reason still being interested.

Especially on a forum such as this.

If I start a thread about how great a cumshot Jewel De'Nyle took on her enthusiastic face in North Pole 8 back in 1999... I might get a few comments like "Yeah, that was a good one". But the majority of people who read it will just be wondering why I'm bringing this up 21 years after the fact. If I post about how Gina Valentina happily took a cock up her butt a few years back... I'm mainly just going to get "No shit Sherlock" type responses. The interactivity and gratefulness of bringing up old news is greatly reduced compared to something that just happened today. For obvious reasons.

When it comes down to it... I LIKE GOOD PORN SCENES. I couldn't give a flying fig about what era it was made. Yesterday or in the 1980's. It makes no difference to me.

Of course apart from a few obvious things (decent editing, diverse angles, professional participants etc) what makes a "good scene" for me is very personal. But WHEN it was shot? Don't care. Good scenes are good scenes, crap scenes are crap scenes. It's not like when I'm watching porn I'm enjoying it and then I notice the "date" at the end of the scene is a few years ago and I suddenly lose wood because the mutual genital rubbing happening on screen is "no longer fresh" or something.

New scenes are admittedly getting to be a bit formulaic as of late. Just like running a production factory line and just mixing up the ingredients slightly but basically just producing the same product over and over. But if we want to get really technical... porn was ALWAYS a bit this way. The only difference now is that it has been refined to "optimum sales" production more than they could before while they were still experimenting.

I know a lot of older people can't watch modern porn anymore because all the "fantasy romance" is gone and these days most of porn is just showing men treating women like shit on screen. The "sweetness" is rare now, but violence, abuse or men in positions of power taking advantage of women in vulnerable positions is commonplace... much of which that if it happened to your sister or your daughter in real life you would likely hunt down that guy and put him in hospital or turn them into the police and they would end up in prison in the real world. But yet these "fantasies" are commonly played out in porn and is arguably the most popular and sellable porn on the modern market. A lot of older people who hadn't seen any porn for a while (married and recently divorced etc) and than started watching again recently not only don't understand why this has happened, but find a lot of it quite uncomfortable and disturbing.(I don't mean in specifically tailored Dominant/Submissive fantasy sites BTW... as that is a designed specific niche. I mean in just "normal" scenes).

Anyway, I personally don't have a new vs old preference. As always, good scenes are good. Boring scenes are boring. Shit scenes are shit...

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I agree that it would be great if some classic scenes were "remastered" or something for greater resolution. But to be honest, the ultra 4K resolution thing is honestly too much in porn.

I'm not really super enthusiastic to see every blocked pore in an actresses face, angry looking pimple on her butt, problematic skin condition, ingrown pubic hair, every bump on some stunt cock swinging balls or freckle on the outskirts of some guys asshole when he's doing her doggy style... in the absolute highest possible pixilation per square micro-meter. Damn man, I don't even look at my girlfriends THAT closely. And for good freaking reason.

Because it's not exactly arousing...

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I also like the more amateur feel of older porn. The big productions and sets, lights and over done make up takes a way from it for me.

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Edited by - snufish on 10/7/2020 2:43:01 PM

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I also think that as people get older, as they progress in their careers and start to have a family life, less time can be spent exploring the nooks and crannies of every possible porn site that may be of interest to you.

As such, you revert back to what you already know.

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I enjoy a mix of old and new. I'm a regular subscriber to sites to get new stuff and I like the rush of finding something new that I really like. But I also watch a lot of older stuff too.

My porn collecting really took off in the early-to-mid-1990s because that's when it became widely available around where I live. That pre-dated being able to go to the 'net and download a scene. With a 1200 baud dial-up connection that would have been impossible. My porn collecting started with VHS tapes and migrated to DVDs when they became available.

For someone reading this who was too young to remember the porn of the early-to-mid-1990s there was a lot going on. For one thing, there was the transition from plot-based porn, which I only tolerated as it was the only thing available, to gonzo. This time period saw the beginning of some porn powerhouses such as Evil Angel and Anabolic/Diabolic. Early Jules Jordan stuff fits in here too though it was a bit later. The look of porn changed completely. My memory may be off on this, but I suspect that someone who started actively watching and collecting porn at any time after 2000 would not recognize the porn of the 1980s and older but they would recognize the stuff that came after. Prior to the shift, porn was in what we would recognize as "movies." There was a plot, there were characters and there were actual settings. The sex was fit into those in a way to make it seem logical. Even some early gonzo pioneers got their start in these plot-based movies. John Stagliano's "Wild Goose Chase" comes to mind. The sex was more raw than in a lot of earlier movies but it was still based around a plot. Contrast that with the gonzo that would come along not long after - no plot was needed. No one was playing a character. It was just sex.

The bottom line for me is that maybe it's a sentimental thing but I still love watching some of those old titles. Anabolic/Diabolic and Extreme Associates are regular views for me. Even early Max Hardcore - before he became too hardcore.

But I will always continue to hunt for new stuff too.

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That being said, I find I very rarely if ever watch those old plot-based things anymore, when it comes to porn being porn they're usually just a bit too inferior in quality (as regards to lighting, closeups, camera angles etc.), even if the sex itself might be really good and passionate.

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I remember that particular store had peep shows (just tapes, not anything live) in the back, but I never indulged in that. I never understood the point to that. I'd rather rent it and go home and jack off to it. I always imagined that was for married guys or whatever who couldn't take porn home, so they had to do it that way. Or maybe it was just the gay thing to do at the time, because I could always hear the videos as I did my search, and it always mostly sounded like guys groaning on the tapes going on back there, hardly ever heard the moans of girls coming from those booths...but, whatever...Back then I guess they had to do what they had to do.

But, the first porn girl I ever actively searched for was Shelby Stevens. She was almost a dead ringer for Pamela Anderson and a few of her vids were parodies of Barb Wire and shit like that. She mostly did lesbian stuff and had some great anal vids. I would love to find some decent quality copies of some of those videos.

Then, I discovered my first true porn crush, Shay Sweet! Holy Mother! First time I saw this chick I was in love! She couldn't have been a day over nineteen when I first saw her getting assfucked! She became my obsession! I remember this one video where it was like a father and son in this room with several tv monitors, and like the father is showing his teenage son how to jack off or something. It wasn't gay or anything, just the father and son sitting there wacking off together and then the son's girlfriend (Shay) shows up and of course they both fuck her. My favorite part was the father showing the son how to fuck her in the ass. Goddam, she was so HOT!! I spent many hours in that porno store hunting for videos with her.

And Strap-on Sally!!! I had all of those!! They were awesome lesbian anal videos. Also, Where The Boys Aren't....Oh, so many tapes did I rent. Then buy. After a few years I must've had 2 or 3 hundred porn tapes. So many I didn't have room to store them. As time marched on I got one of those VHS to DVD burners and copied all of them. I still have them but boy, do they look like shit!! It's all 480 or less, barely worth the time.

I love a lot of ye olde porn, but very rarely watch any of them anymore. Only on occasion, just for nostalgia sake. I would love for that 90s stuff (even 70s or 80s) to be remastered and released. I would certainly buy some of it.

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Browsing through adult video rental shops for an hour looking for models I knew, and like you, hoping to find something that indicated an anal scene. I was more fortunate in that I never encountered a store that put an unreasonable limit on rentals. I recall on many occasions leaving with six tapes or later DVDs in hand.

I recall one time when I was posted to a base outside Halifax, Nova Scotia, in the late 80s that there was a mainstream shop in downtown Halifax that also had a decent selection of adult title. They put a sale on for pre-paying for rental credits. I'm sure lots of families took advantage of that offer so they could rent new releases until their credits ran out. But me? All adult.

I recall that there was a little convenience store not far from the base that had a small selection too. I only recall that because one day I was in there browsing the titles and another customer struck up a conversation. I recall that instead of saying "porno" he pronounced it by dropping the R so he said "pawn-o." The shop owner joined in the conversation. I recall that vividly because it was the first time I had ever had a conversation with anyone about porn.

My first true porn crush was Tammi Ann. I first saw her in Max Hardcore's "Hitchhiker 1." That was before Max became the twisted person he was later in his career. As an aside, I differentiate between Max eras by noting when he stopped going down on the models. Once he gave up on giving the model's pleasure he started in with the abuse. Jeez. if it were me the scene would be a flop because I'd have spent the whole time licking Tammi's pussy and ass.

But Shay Sweet. yes, she was someone I sought out too. Inari Vachs came along a bit later but was a must-have too.

Kids these days! They have to click a button to access a world of porn that guys like us couldn't even dream of as we walked up hill, both ways, for an hour, in the rain, to rent a VHS tape.

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2. PORNSTARS RULE THE MARKET NOW NOT COMPANY- because of the evolution of twitter and other social media networks pornstars also becoming as famous as celebrities now they have fan following even some pornstars do have millions of followers in twitter and instagram so now you can sell anything in the name of such famous pornstars and people will also buy it. It might be the reason why certain companies are entering into exclusive contract with famous pornstars. Earlier, pornstars not used to have that appeal and porn used to be sold on the bases of stories or it's execution.

3.CHANGE IN WESTERN world-famous I don't know how one might take it but I'm observing very drastic changes in American world take an example of WWE earlier it used to be fun to watch actionpact matches and extreme capacity of wrestlers but now they made it PG also they are now trying to be more woman centric in their aproach to whitewash their earlier misogynistic acts the same thing is going through porn too. Porn has become more politically correct (difference between earlier dogfart and now)

4.RESIDUAL- then I think now some minor problems are that they are spending too much on set location than they should spend on story writer, all boobs are now nearly enhanced, not hiring good people for writing the porn and most of the porn now floats around internet for free

Although I also believe even though some porn companies are doing great work and showing consistentany adulttime is great example of this

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Porn stars themselves nowadays rather shoot for their Onlyfans, and that literally killed the game.

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Monica Sweetheart's biggest fan from 2000

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However, generally speaking, I find that older stuff has more passion and creativity. Everyone has their own personal "sweet spot" era of porn, and for me it's the period from roughly 1998-2008, but I think most of us can probably agree that the rise of SEO-driven content creation since 2012 is responsible for a lot of the creative bankruptcy we see today. Porn has become increasingly cookie-cutter and bland, and to me, most of it feels like it is produced on an assembly line by unfeeling robots. I know that's not the case, because I have been involved in this industry for several years and have seen how it really works for myself, but it sure does seem that way based on the quality (or lack thereof) in the finished products.

OnlyFans is a whole different can of worms that I don't want to open in this thread, but suffice it to say that while the pay model is clearly advantageous for performers who are able to reach a critical mass of subscribers, it's not necessarily so great for the struggling no-name newcomer.

The real tragedy of OnlyFans is that the quality of the content suffers tremendously. After all, if enough fans are willing to shell out $20-30 / month for terribly-produced iPhone videos which lack professional camera work, lighting, or directorial vision of any kind, then why would anyone bother putting in all of that extra work? I know there is SOME well-produced content available on OnlyFans, but the truth is that the vast majority of it sucks. It is a major downgrade for the industry in general and, in the end, only the consumer suffers. People are already paying MORE money for LESS content overall, so the fact that so much of that content is shit just rubs salt in the wound.

Edited by - evilpineapples on 10/23/2020 10:01:20 AM

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I do appreciate though when someone brings up an old scene to discuss (along with a screenshot, cmon we're not savages) in a girls' thread. Especially if she's retired and there's no new news to talk about.

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For me personally, I've always watched equal amounts of new and old stuff. I'm more into the girls than the sex act or the studio/director so I mostly watch stuff from all eras of porn. I used to buy those cheap compilation DVDs that had girls from the 80s and 90s so I like many of the stars from those eras. Then I got a VIDEOBOX subscription and discovered many more girls from various eras. When I'm into the girl I've accepted that her shooting for RED LIGHT DISTRICT or LETHAL HARDCORE or WCP is going to be a different vibe and production values and feel to it than that same girl or another shooting for EVIL ANGEL, JULES JORDAN or BLACKED. And with the girls I happily accept that Elsa Jean will probably never be the same type of performer as Holly Hendrix. Both perform in a particular niche and they're both great in their niches. I love variety. I don't want to see the same thing over and over. Some days I like watching Big boob girls the 90s, sometimes I can't get enough of Riley Reid. Sometimes a gangbang with a new girl is my preference sometimes I like watching an old bondage vid with Summer Cummings (not really into bondage but love Summer C.).

I'm sure it's been done and out there somewhere but I'd like to see a history of porn video or documentary starting fro 70s porn to today and talking about the evolution of it all. The 70s seem to be all about features and loops. I think the actual amount of hot women in 70s porn is fairly small. I think that era was more about the directors trying too hard to make actual movies. But that makes total sense since back then they played in theaters. The 80s is I think when video tape became the thing and changes started to happen I'm guessing the emphasis went from wanting to simply see people having sex to seeing good looking women have sex. The 90s was the decade of VIVID and studios like that making it all look slick and glam (I think). The 2000s brought us Gonzo and all type of women and body types. The 2010s seem to be lots of how far can they push boundries and how much you can do to a girl. I'm talking in general and probably have dates wrong because some of it's before my time but that's how I see much of this. Keep in mind I'm talking popular mainstream porn. I know the exceptions always existed.

We've had eras of features being the big thing, also...The huge boob era (I kinda miss that one). The big butt era. Barely legal. Bukkaki (SP) was a big deal for a minute. Glamour girls. Parodies where huge for awhile even though most people here seemed to hate them. The contract girl was a major thing for a long time. The huge penis thing was hot for awhile (BLACKZILLA). Family porn is a thing now. We're now in a era of the once barely legal girls are main pornstars now and not just doing the "teen" stuff. The MILF era is still going strong (I like the whole MILF thing, not because of them being "MILFS" but I love that body type). Am I missing any major era themes?

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Always feet n ass. In that order.

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I'm not going to claim that the talent behind the camera or in front of it were better back then but it's hard to argue that there are some movies from back then are cinematic porn masterpiece even if the sex portion is a little on the short side and not as anatomically visible as what came after it. In many ways the fact that you saw a lot less of dicks, balls and holes being penetrated means that cinematographers (and they had to be to shoot on 35mm celluloid) had to rely on the interaction between the players to elicit sexual tension that would translate into sexual stimulation to the audience. Even producers of loop porn wanted to create a relationship that most producers today don't care about.

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But...I like the 70s loops. Those did exactly what the set out and needed to do. From what I can tell porn didn't become start to become better until the video cassette came about. I understand that when you're making a movie to be shown in theaters you need to do stories and downplay the sex a bit because you're trying to look like a legit movie. When video came about they were able to lean more into the sex scenes because the audience is watching at home and do whatever without worrying about being restrained. Also, from that point the number of hot girls grew a lot because they didn't have to worry about acting ability and could hire more girls based on looks and they could become stars because of their looks instead of acting ability. During the WICKED and VIVID era they were still doing stories but the stories were they were mostly stories that are there just to give an excuse for sex. I just think it's a waste or bad idea to do a story that's trying to be complicated or isn't there for to get to the sex as soon as possible. I think DIGITAL PLAYGROUND did the best features because the stories were very simple and straightforward excuses to get to the sex scene and the movie didn't waste a lot of time between sex scenes.

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New content has much better video quality and bitrate than porn from the 2000s and early 2010s.

New content also has much better accessibility to all sorts of porn, with many different websites catering to many different fetishes whereas old didn't really have this option.

With new content their is countless amount of porn websites that are either established or new websites being launched frequently.

But i do give perks to old content too, for example we had incredible performers throughout the 2000s and 2010s which today's pornstars can't really compete with, that roster was stacked.

I do think old content had better scenes overall, like the scenes overall themselves were better than what you get today.

I think both have their perks and downs, its up to the viewer on what they like from an individual perspective.

My opinion never count out the present day.

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The only plus for new content is the higher resolution.

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My formative porn years were end of the nineties and start of 2000...

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