I've been wondering, and this probably sounds like a Malcolm Gladwell Outliers kind of thing, about why some men in the industry make it... so to speak, and others don't. It can't just be about dick size because Mr. Marcus, Justin Slayer Brian Pumper, L.T. and others have been very successful and aren't HUGE in that arena, so to speak. BOZ on the other hand who is considerable in that department, and has been pretty successful in some respects, seems to choose to perform in ensembles....Justin Slayer and now Diesel. He kind of seems to play second fiddle :). And it can't just be physical appearance because their are men that would probably be considered attractive that aren't headlining their own series. And there are some that are very successful, who I ain't naming LOL, that aren't ready for the cover of GQ. Even with regard to "cocksmanship," There is certainly second tier male talent sustain erections, provide substantial cum shots, and still not make it out the minor leagues. Is there a formula? And by success I mean, guys that headline their own series, or appear in tons of scenes and in the majority of the scenes when they do perform, or are in lots of movies. Justin Slayer, Rocco Siffredi, Rico Strong, Brian Pumper, Sean Michaels Lex Steele, Brandon Iron, Mr. Pete, seem to have a certain charisma. Is that what it is? Or is it about the male audience being able to identify or relate to them? Maybe drive? Then there have been those, that attempted to break out, trying to headline their own series, star in lots of scenes etc...and never seem to quite take off: Tee Reel comes to mind, Nat Turnher, Mark Anthony, Derrick Skeeter. Why is that? Personally, I find myself being less impressed with the porn Dream Team of male talent, and more impressed with those I see infrequently. Just some thoughts.
I think people gravitate towards whatever gives them the most satisfaction. If I looked like Evan Stone and could perform at his level, life would be pretty rosy! Some guys thrive under the pressures of big features; others don't. If you are a guy who can act, you will enjoy feature roles. The contract women are all beautiful and professional. The crews are experienced and leaders in their respective fields, too. A wide audience appreciates your work. There are quality productions that win major awards and become industry classics. Sweet! What is heaven for some is hell for others. Long hours on set, memorizing dialogue, 9am call times, etc. Blechhh. Any guy can set a goal and attain it as long as you make sacrifices. You can be your own boss if you do what you love to do. If you would do something for free, you might just get your wish!
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Most of the guys you cite are black. I guess racism in porn isn't as rampant as many want us to believe. I know my responses is off topic. Yet it was an observation. As for your question. I think the male side of porn is a closed "country club" type mentality. Its hard to get in. But once you are there, its easy to stay.
I think there is another consideration however, and that is the female porn consumer. Personally, there are a few guys out there who are in porn and all I need to do is think about them and i'm literally dripping wet. Damian Duke and Danny Mountain are probably my two favourite guys. I don't know quite what it is about them, and to be honest Damian doesnt have an overly large penis, so its not all about that. I think its about having a certain charisma. When I watch porn I want to be made to feel like I long to be the girl involved, and if the guy doesnt do it, then theres just no buzz for me. Perhaps its not just the guy then, and its the way he works with the girl. My favourite porn is when there is real chemistry and you can tell they are really into it, which is why I also have a real love of amateur porn with real couples. Perfect example is this which i worte about a while ago http://hotmandy.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/damian-duke-rocks/ What you guys think? xxx
Perhaps it's all about showmanship. The way it feels best for the guy banging the lady quite often doesn't look best to the viewer. Because much of the sex action is either hidden and can only be felt by the actors but not seen by the viewers. Or the visible sex action doesn't look dramatic and dynamic enough. A guy who is a true showman will keep his audience in mind and exaggerate his sex actions on the lady in a way that looks good to the audience. Instead of just banging the lady for his own pleasure. He tries to show off like a stud and debauch the lady like a slut in the most spectacular way he can muster. A good showman can imagine what it looks like to his audience. Which enables him to do it for show rather than for his own pleasure.
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Posted - Apr 21 2009 : 12:17PM
The guy has to really love women...Manuel Ferrara is the gold standard.
^^^ I don't know about that. Considering how "successful" Max Hardcore was, I don't think loving women has anything to do with porn. That may make them more popular amongst mainstream porn consumers, but that doesn't necessarily make them more successful. It all depends on how you wish to measure "success." If the measure is "they make a good living," I'd actually think the ability to get wood under any circumstances, perform under all circumstances, maintain their ability to orgasm on command (or hold it as needed) under all circumstances, etc. is what makes them successful. They are in porn mainly for their ability to provide a stunt dick. In a big chunk of scenes, you hardly ever see the guy in the first place and frankly from my perspective I prefer it that way. YMMV of course. Considering how many guys are "gay for pay" or openly bisexual, and will take just about any type of porn scene, straight/gay/bi/whatever for money and still turn in a good performance. I think all that is what makes a porn guy successful. I would imagine most measure success by their bookings. The more they get, the more successful they are. Whether or not this has anything to do with their love of women is likely pretty irrelevant.
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Posted - Apr 21 2009 : 1:06PM
I certainly would not measure the length of a jail sentence as an indication of the success of a male pornstar. But you are right it does depend on how you wish to measure success. Max certainly attained success, but it seems that that may have had to do with his business savvy. He found and tapped into a specific market. In other words he may have been a better business person, than Ferarra or the others, but I don't recall him ever being named "male performer" of the year either. And considering his current situation, which may have been a bit self inflicted, even his business acumen could be suspect. In any case the kind of porn that I enjoy features a guy who seems to be doing his best to drive his female partner mad with lust.
^^ I remember watching some of Max Hardcore's porn movies. And I'd say that he was successful because he was showing the kind of sex many porn-fans wanted to see. I didn't share his taste in women. But on a few occasions a few women I liked appeared in his films. And I really enjoyed watching Max have his way with these ladies. Because Max had a really good way of debauching these women's asses. He didn't just ride their asses. He did it for show. And his anal show was very good.
I think the level of success depends more on the performer's drive and intentions rather than their looks or performing abilities. The big stars mentioned here like Mr. Pete, Manuel, Steve Holmes, Mark Wood, etc...all moved on to directing, making appearances, etc...They all seem to heave a relatively good head on their shoulders and are in the industry to make money and have their presence known instead of just having crazy sex. The dudes who are in it just to get laid don't really go very far.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Another thing that can make a guy sucessful is when he is willing to go all out on a whore... Smack her around a bit,choke her until things get hazy for her.One of my all time favs is Brandon.That guy will take a girl there.When he ripped Crystal Ray a new asshole on the meatholes site,it really turned me on.. She cried almost from the minute he went anal.You could see the pain in her face with every stroke.Brandon I salute you If it ain't rough?It ain't right
I prefer the 500+ non-rough updates I have done for a swallowing site I do. It was nice to be with Crystal but there are not many who can do intense scenes like that particular one. She did a foot fetish scene for me with Katin and Steve Holmes and it was a lot of fun.
