Hey guys, I want to share my story with you. I am not a troll nor am I making this up. Please believe me as I share the following. Just like most of you I used to be addicted to porn and masturbating even though it made me empty and dead inside. God even convicted me of it but I continued to do it for years until I finally quit by my own will. I also wanted to re-establish a relationship with God so that furthur motivated me to quit. Soon after I quit and I made that commitment to serve God all hell broke loose on me, literally. Some of you may have heard about this crazy phenomena called sleep paralysis - it's where you wake up and you can't move. Many people have experienced it before. Heck, you may have experienced it. A lot of times it is accompanied by seeing dark shadow figures or being strangled with a heavy presence of evil in the air. Well, I experienced that but I wasn't even asleep, I just barely closed my eyes laying on my bed when a demonic spirit tried to enter my body. It was a spirit of lust or masturbation. I just felt that it was when it tried to enter my body. I can assure you I am not crazy. Many people try to explain it away scientifically but why is it most people see similar things and how do you explain pets reacting to the supposed "hallucination" during sleep paralysis? The truth is there is a spiritual world whether you believe it or not. And there are real evil entities out there that hate you and want to destroy you. If there is a God, and yes God exists, then there must be a devil. I even experienced demons try to attack me when I wasn't asleep. I have had so many experiences I don't have the time to detail it all here. Why did this happen to me? The demons tried to bring me back into the bondage of sin and sin separates you from God. Also when I repented and turned to Jesus that mads the devil angry because I turned to God and He can now use me as a vessel to do His will. I can assure you if you repented of your evil deeds and totally committed yourself to Jesus Christ you will also face retaliation just like I have and still going through. The Bible is clear in Ephesians Ch. 6:11 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." In other words there is a spiritual war going on. There are demons behind the porn industry and your porn addiction and masturbation. I heard from someone who helps women to get out of the porn industry that she gets emails from women who did porn saying that they hearing voices in their head telling to go back to doing porn. Those are demons. Jesus said Satan wants to kill, steal, and destroy. You know deep down that pornography is evil and wrong. You certainly wouldn't enjoy your daughter or sister doing porn because you know it is dehumanizing and degrading. God didn't create people to have sex outside the confines of marriage and so you can watch videos of people having sex, and a lot of times perverted sex. So who is this Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh. He came as a man 2,000 years ago and lived a sinless life and He died for your sins on the cross but rose from the dead 3 days later. He loves you and wants to manifest Himself to you. If you repent of your sins and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ by inviting Him inside your heart He can change your life forever and even free you from your addictions. Please just think about it: Where are you going to go after you die? Jesus made it clear that there is a heaven and there is a hell where there is weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. He can forgive you of all of your sins if you repent and turn to Him. If you don't then you will remain dead in your sins and will be lost and separated from God forever. But God loves you and doesn't want you to perish in your sins. He is probably knocking on the door of your heart. Only Jesus Christ can give you true peace, true joy, and true life. Edited by - JesusIsGod on Feb 26 2014 Edited by - JesusisGod on Feb 26 2014
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Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ... 717 Posts 3/06
I can say for myself that I like women more, after I watch some porn. It makes me feel good about women in general. And masturbation all the way to orgasm is a good way to calm your emotions. Which makes you behave well with everyone. There is plenty of evidence that introduction of porn into society decreases its crime rate, especially the sex-crime rate. Sometimes, people who claim to be from God, are actually from Satan. Because it's normal for Satanic people to lie. "By their deeds you shall know them" is what Christ said in the Bible. And that's how it is now with porn. If porn decreases crime and makes people behave better, then those who are against porn are from Satan. Edited by - Dan on 2/27/2014 8:11:49 AM
Really? Yet if we don't repent our sins of wanking over hot porno babes he'll send us to 'a hell where there is weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth', huh? To be honest, this Jesus fella you're talking about sounds like a total cunt.
Hi new member. Welcome to adt. It's not everyday we see somebody like this at adt here. I believe can have a discussion of the ethics of pornography here unless you are just another troll in the internet highway. There are many senior members at adt who have been watching porn for decades and still having a happy life. So if you are ready to talk we can quite have a discussion. Before we proceed I would like to know the answer to one question. Is this about the ethics of pornography or does this cover the concern of Christianity as the only true religion which every living man and woman should embrace?
Jesus said " If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." Jesus also said " But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Porn is of the devil and youve been caught in his trap. If you turn to Jesus He can deliver you from your addiction. A lot of people here will probably try to justify sin but God is not going to have any of that on Judgment Day. If you love the light then you would come to Jesus Christ - He is the light of the world. The scriptures read: " 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”"
God is holy, holy, holy. I have experienced His holiness supernaturally by His grace. You dont understand the severity of sin until His light shines on you. God is offering His mercy and forgivess if you admit youre a sinner and come to Jesus Christ. He can cleanse you and make you a new person. Otherwise if you continue to thumb your nose at God then what hope do you have?
@ JIG: Without turning this into a religious discussion or anything too moralizing I would say thank-you for your concern for our souls. Really, thank you. I know you think you are doing the right thing here so "thanks". On the other hand I would guess that the moral presumption you are operating under when you post here is going to upset a few (perhaps more abrasive and combative than I) so good luck to you and your proselytizing efforts in the future, but please don't come back. Have a good day!
Do we really need a discussion on the ethics of porn? Unless you have a reprobate mind then you wouldnt defend porn. Harsh words, but the Bible does mention God giving people over to a reprobate mind. I am trying to get you guys to think about the bigger and deeper questions in life. Where are you going to go when you die? Is there a God? Can I actually know God and have a relationship with Him? Will God judge us? Is there a heaven and hell? Is Jesus really God who died on the cross for the sins of the world and rose from the dead? I want you guys to know the truth.... that Jesus Christ is the truth, the way, and the life, and the only way to the Father.
You should probably redirect your crusade... Does Bible Belt love porn as much as the godless do? Figures provided by popular site PornHub suggest that those who live in allegedly more religious communities enjoy as much online release as the allegedly godless.
Now don't go quoting books there. I can quote a lot more than you can from Harry Potter or Fifty Shades of Grey. Doesn't make it true And talking about quotes, why you are using quotes selectively. What about Exodus 21:20-21 “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money. Are you going to quote this to support slavery?
Listen. Jesus Christ is real and true. He loves you so much. He wants to give you the Holy Spirit and change your life. You have to humble yourself and have a contrite heart and He can forgive you and make you a new person. Check out these testimonies https://plus.google.com/communities/112711114690012931971
Stalemate. JIG believes the bible to be the moral authority for which people should adhere to and organize their lives around. I get that. But not everyone believes it. If you do not believe it then there is no discussion here because that authority is not allowed to be questioned in JIG's argument. So we are stalemated again. No hard feelings JIG, have a wonderful day.
^Mindfapping, since he's not allowed to use his hands. When I was too young for porn I usually put some classical music on, but Jesus works too.
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Posted - Feb 27 2014 : 11:42PM
"God's Standards" are absolute bottom feeders compared to the standards humanity has developed on their own. God commanded genocide God murdered innocent women and children God saved a man who offered his daughters for gang rape and impregnated them; but felt a city should be destroyed because two men loved each other God slaughtered people over and over again for the simple "crime" of not worshipping him God says "Worship me or, I will either slaughter you, kill you, bring massive natural disasters upon you, or send you to eternal torment after you die" God gives you a story of the universe that conlficts with every branch of human discovery, science, and knowledge and threatens you to eternal torment if you question it Humanity has learned that each of these tactis are abhorrent. If any human leader enacted these polices you "Christians" would condemn the, but somehow because they are done by GOd they are moral standards we should follow? Would you say "yeah but they all deserved this because they didn't worship God". Great, then by Gods standards perhaps some of our planet's recent genocides are justified because the populace didn't worship Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc? And let's not forget he gave us sexual traits, desires, organs and thoughts and then people like you are telling us it is horrible to use them? Seriously man, you need to realize that the God of the old testament is a disgraceful being and if he does exist, he is not worthy of any sort of worship. Period. Edited by - earthwindfire on 2/27/2014 11:43:10 PM Edited by - earthwindfire on 2/27/2014 11:44:45 PM
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Posted - Feb 27 2014 : 11:45PM
Most Christians who preach out loud and condemn us jerk off and think sexual thoughts just like the rest of us.
If Jesus Christ is real then I suggest that we wait until he becomes a member of ADT and puts HIS point of view over on this thread. Instead of leaving it to you to do it. Edited by - Brummie on 2/28/2014 12:22:43 AM
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Posted - Feb 28 2014 : 12:47AM
Do you see the face on the TV screen coming at you every Sunday see that face on the billboard that man is me On the cover of the magazine there's no question why I'm smiling you buy a piece of paradise you buy a piece of me I'll get you everything you wanted I'll get you everything you need don't need to believe in hereafter just believe in me Cos Jesus he knows me and he knows I'm right I've been talking to Jesus all my life oh yes he knos me and he knos I'm right and he's been telling me everything is alright I believe in the family with my ever loving wife beside me but she don't know about my girlfriend or the man I met last night Do you believe in God cos that's what I'm selling and if you wanna go to heaven I'll se you right You won't even have to leave your house or get out of your chair you don't even have to touch that dial cos I'm everywhere Cos Jesus he knows me and he knows I'm right I've been talking to Jesus all my life oh yes he knos me and he knos I'm right and he's been telling me everything is alright Won't find me practising what I'm preaching won't find me making no sacrifice but I can get you a pocketful of miracles if you promise to be good, try to be nice God will take good care of you just do as I say, don't do as I do I'm counting my blessings, I've found true happiness cos I'm getting richer, day by day you can find me in the phone book, just call my toll free number you can do it anyway you want just do it right away There'll be no doubt in your mind you'll believe everything I'm saying if wanna get closer to him get on your knees and start paying Cos Jesus he knows me and he knows I'm right I've been talking to Jesus all my life oh yes he knos me and he knos I'm right and he's been telling me everything is alright
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pervybrit50 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 28 2014 : 1:24AM
Of course you aren't trolling-somebody on a porn forum telling people not to watch porn or masturbate, sure. We don't feel dead & empty inside-ejaculating is natural & good for us. We don't have imaginary beings & religion telling us something is wrong/bad. So watching porn is wrong, yet worshiping God who if you believe in him killed millions of people in horrific ways & stands by idly watching millions suffer worldwide year after year is right? Sleep paralysis is not waking up unable to move-you are in a state between sleep & waking, animals sleep patterns are similar to ours-as are their other basic needs like food, water, air, sex etc. You are not crazy-you just believe in a being that no evidence exists for & talk to it & get invaded by imaginary demons-in society we call it mental illness, in religion you get a free pass due to the irrational belief in disproven ancient texts that sadly still pervades society. While we are on the subject of the equally imaginary Satan how come he is the personification of evil yet killed just 10 & God is the epitome of good yet killed several million in juvenile temper tantrums? Why does this stuff happen to you? Because you are a religious zealot most likely. Which you prove by quoting scripture/dogma rather than evidence-what the church always does when it cannot answer scientific reasoning-it is evolution, we get horny & we take care of it with sex or masturbation-always been that way & always will be. Is this person Shelley Lubben by any chance? A lunatic who stands in her garden waving a stick at the sky, praying to her imaginary friend in the sky while doing incantations/ranting about porn, while making up stats about porn suicides/deaths to suit her agenda & making a fool of herself at porn events when she turns up uninvited & debating seminars where she is outwitted? Again if Satan wants to kill he didn't do a good job in the bible-probably because God had already killed everybody. Don't have a daughter or sister-but if I did I would let her make her own choices-remember free will? Except unlike your God I wouldn't then turn round & punish people after giving them that free will for doing something I didn't like. How is having sex degrading or dehumanising? None of us would be here if it wasn't for 2 people having sex-would you rather she be working 9-5 all week making a fraction of the money doing something she hated? Was it not God who talked about sowing wild oats/spreading seed? Surely then he created us to be attracted to multiple people at once, marriage is a man-made creation that doesn't work for most people, or are we back to Adam & Eve where God created them with lust & then punished them for acting out on that lust? Who is Jesus? Possibly an invention, or likely a showman/cult leader who railed against the state & was able to fool people into following him around-just like Jim Jones or David Koresh but without the violence. Was killed for causing trouble & didn't rise from the dead because nobody can. Where are we going? A furnace where we get incinerated or a hole in the ground where we get eaten by insects. Why would I want to be in heaven with rapists, murderers, child molesters etc-just because they say they found religion when they are in jail, yet people who lead decent lives & never hurt anybody end up in hell just because they didn't believe? So to sum up religion discriminates/separates people on the grounds of gender, race & belief while atheism accepts everybody for who they are. Religion is responsible for most of the unrest & hatred/violence in the world today, porn is responsible for people emptying their nut sacks & no doubt stops many from going out & raping/sexually assaulting others.