Is there a reason why you must stare at the camera at all times while having sex? WHY? Do the directors and producers tell the performers to do this or do the performers think it's what we want? I see it more with the women. STOP IT! Just do your thing and perform but stop staring at the camera! If I was running the show, I would tell the girls to stop staring and posing for the camera. And I would also tell the men to shut the hell up! If I want to hear someone talk while having sex, I'll open the window to hear the neighbors next door! Scream, yell, or cry but stop talking!! Stop staring & posing at the camera while having sex; and stop talking while having sex. Please tell me I'm not the only one annoyed by this. Thank you!
You are not the only one , darrah. I feel EXACTLY the same. I never liked it and I never will....and the men talking absolutely KILLS a scene for me. Unfortunately for us , many porn viewers prefer the "staring at the camera" thing.
I can't think of any movies I've seen were the girl stares directly at the camera whilst having sex, except for solo girl and pov ones, where I love to see it anyway. Is there a particular studio/director that this is common practice with?
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Posted - Sep 15 2008 : 6:43AM
I think they think that most prefer it when we don't.
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Posted - Sep 15 2008 : 6:45AM
It's not natural!
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Posted - Sep 15 2008 : 6:46AM
No particular studio or director because every time I watch porn from whoever it is, they're staring at the camera and the men are talking during sex. It ruins it for me.
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Sep 15 2008 : 7:04AM
Some directors require it and some ban it. There are some performers who believe they're engaging the audience by doing it. I think they're siphoning heat from the scene. There are some performers, Tiffany Mynx for example, who can do it in a sly way and make it work to perfection. I have to disagree about the talking. Unless they're trading stock tips, talking ramps up the chemistry and keeps the woman from going into the solo rant of "Fuck yeah, fuck my tight pussy. Do you like my little wet pussy. Fuck yeah." A pox on any director who actually feeds lines to the girls.
Three things that ruin porn for me: 1.) The cameraman talking. Or the actor talking. We all know it, it's the Bangbros-like crap with a dude talking while the chick gets fucked. Or the overly talkative actor, commenting on every move of the girl. Hey, folks: IT'S A TURNOFF. I don't want to hear your voice. You're a body and a dick, pound that chick and shut the fuck up. Seeing this means I won't buy the shit from that director / featuring that actor anymore. 2.) Girls looking at the camera After decades of porn we're all pretty used to the stuff that's been done, and even girls squirting milk out of their arses into open mouths don't cause much more than a raised eyebrow anymore. But there's two things left that still get to me: intensity and authenticity. Now I couldn't care less if the dude has a good time, but the chick better enjoy the ride (Belladonna-style, or like Annette Schwartz). Looking at the camera somehow breaks the magic - nothing's better than a girl seemingly forgetting about the whole film stuff, just being caught up in the process of fucking. 3.) Fake moaning Okay, we get it. Guy touches girl's hair and she comes - at least according to her screams. Fuck, at least learn to moan a bit less dramatic. The sounds of mating whales while the girl gives the guy a handjob is a bit awkward and won't get you an AVN award.
Three things that make porn work for me: 1.) Chemistry between the actors Sure, not every college dropout with a porn startup shooting your usual POV gonzo internet crap has to look like Rocco Siffredi. But guys - when you're pale and chubby and your tatoos suck and your dick is small it doesn't mean the average customer happily imagines himself to be you. When you can practically see the resigned look in the girls eyes - "I wouldn't even look at that dude on the street, but promise me a contract and I'll do whatever" - it's not really the kind of porn that I feel comfortable with. Much better: at least a remote chemistry concerning body and attitude. It's rare, which makes it even hotter. 2.) Locations Doesn't have to be the mansion in Hollywood Hills, but please - cellar rooms with rotten furniture, bad lighting and spotted carpet from the 70s are not hot. I'm sure (and this once again goes out to you, internet gonzo producers) your parents have a decent bedroom or something. Use it. Girls inconspicuously wiping their hands after touching the sofa don't do it for me. Pools are always good. Check out the stuff from Nectarmovies.com, this is how you do it. 3.) Girlfriend compatibility There's not enough "couple porn" out there. Back in the 90s you had tons of productions that were rather tasteful, today when I want to buy something for my girl and me to enjoy while screwing it gets difficult. She loves porn, but it has to be "nice". Deepthroating and puking, sticking a camera up the slippery large intestine or shooting a hobo fucking a crack whore tends to get rejected. Better: hot actors, shaved dicks, shaved pussies, cute chicks - once more I'll refer to Nectarmovies.
I may have already answered this in one of the earlier threads, but I'll answer again. Anything can be overdone. It would be bad if she was looking away from her co-star to look towards the camera for very long stretches of time. But in general, eye contact with the camera does not bother me. I suppose sometimes it could break with the theme of a movie, if it's in one scene but not others. But that's a minor quibble, as I tend to jerk off to scenes one at a time. It is possible to look in the direction of the camera, without acknowledging the camera and all of us wankers. I have seen stage plays where characters looked at the 4th wall without actually 'breaking the 4th wall' and acknowledging the audience. There's no reason that can't happen on film sets, too. Just in the last few days I saw Young Harlots in Detention, and Regina Ice's eyes were spectacular when they reflected the lights and sparkled in an amazingly beautiful way. She did look in the direction of the camera several times, and it did add some intimacy with us at home, but she never really actually acknowledged the camera or broke character. It was more like, without being shot POV, we still got to see what he was seeing when he got to look directly into her face. And of course there are movies where there is a character being a peeping tom for at least one scene, and the woman might realize she's being watched, but play along, making quick glances at the camera giving the peeping tom's view, without alerting her lover that they're being watched.
The occasional eye-contact look into the camera, especially when done at the "right" moment (which will vary, as there is no rule as to what, when or how), can be incredibly hot. I know that there have been scenes, when it was just the right look at the right time, where the eye-contact was what pushed my pop over the point-of-no-return. God bless the Ninn Effect
As a performer, it HAS to feel right to look/talk to the camera...if it doesn't, I refuse to, even if the director is a dick ;) if not it just comes off as SUPER gay and fake... it can be really hot though, because that is my ultimate goal, to make YOU come, so like I said before, it just has to feel right....Sexy Passionate all out sex is my forte' anyway. Everything has its place though ;) Ricki
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Posted - Sep 16 2008 : 2:56PM
I love it when a girl looks right into the camera, especially if she's double stuffing her mouth with 2 big black cocks.
I generally dislike it, but there are some performers that do it well. I don't mind it if it seems the girl gets off on the exhibitionism. There are certain women that get turned on by the camera. That's evident in the number of amateurs posting web cam stuff on the internet for free. I personally know women who like the idea of nameless, faceless strangers jerking off to them. It's part of the performer's fantasy. When a girl isn't into it, you can see it plainly, and that's what I hate. This is the case 99% of the time. To me, it's just a waste of valuable fucking time.
Well, I've seen lot of scenes where the girl does have 2 BBCs and she goes back and forth between them, thus single stuffing her mouth with BBCs, and at no point does she put both in her mouth at the same time. And there have been scenes where the girl has 5 BBCs and is only double stuffing her mouth. So, that's why I felt the need to indicate exactly what I like. The white or asian girl is staring into the camera and both BBCs are in her mouth at the exact same time.
Aside from POV, I don't usually like the performers looking into the camera. The only one who pulls this off (for me) is Sasha Grey. I like it better when the guy keeps his mouth shut My all time biggest pet peeve is when the chick is jackin a guy off, or sucking him off, and then he takes over and does it himself. NO, DON'T FUCKING DO THAT!!
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08
Posted - Sep 17 2008 : 3:07AM
I'm not into the staring thing, though a little eye contact in gonzo is to be expected; Hot and perfectly placed POV. Other annoyances: 1) Dry pussy ... yikes, it looks like it hurts and it means she's not turned on, and he's not doing anything to help the situation. Just bad all round 2) Endless reverse cowgirl; for me, personally a tad boring. I like to see a guy really giving it to a girl, and that whole playing to camera thing (in a feature) is unnatural 3) Too much fake screaming, from the girl of course 4) Not enough screaming, from the girl of course 5) Solos where the girls are phoning it in. I mean; there's no guys poking at you, no girls complaining they don't do girls, but "whatever here we go". It's just YOU getting off ... so get off! Have fun, run wild and really make the most of it Enough grievances. Since being out of the biz, I definitely watch and enjoy porn more then ever before. I really have more likes then dislikes ........... Sarah Jane x
^Hey Sarah Jane Hamilton; if you get in touch with Steph or Drew (the owners of our fair site) they can probably make you all "official" and have your name as "Sarah Jane Hamilton" - that way the fans can know it's you!
Lack of ADR. You'd think with the money that studios spend on HD cameras - and the hardware/software required to edit all that footage - that they could put a little money towards a couple wireless mics to place on the performers during the clothed scene intros. If not, then rent a recording booth and record the dialogue. If you're gonna have dialogue in a scene, then make it so we can actually hear and understand it. This is annoying in gonzo. It's downright inexcusable in features.
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08
Posted - Sep 18 2008 : 2:16AM
Hi KillBill Hah, I kinda like flying a little under the radar. I mean, I don't want to make a big deal. I was active like, 13 years ago! I'm not sure the "fans" even know who I am -and that's cool. But I found this site to be the friendliest of the blogging sites and the most active. I want to know what's everyone watching; keep apprised on my porn and it's aficionados. I'll consider it, but I just like chatting late at night. Cheers anyways ... ps Who is the beautiful girl as your avatar?
^Sarah Jane: the beautiful girl in my avatar is the amazingly beautiful and naturally busty Brit glamour model Lucy Pinder. So very, very tasty. Oh and I'm sure there are many fans that fondly remember you! There are lots of old-timers around here who remember porn girls from as far back as the mid-70's, so remembering you from the 90's would be a piece of cake. :) [edit to add: oh, but you're more than welcome to fly a little bit under the radar if you'd like. No one's putting any pressure on you. And I'm happy to hear that you found ADT to be the friendliest of the sites. It's something we strive for here.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/18/2008 12:54:24 PM
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 9:09AM
Ah, Sarah Jane, I also like fun and cushiony girls - "Immortal Desire" is still a cool film to watch every now and again whilst intoxicated (although it has a lot to answer for in starting a trend of arty-farty, effects-laden, thinking-tosser's porn). Edited to add - oh yeah, as said before, some girls can really "pull-off" the occasional glance to camera which lets us perverts know that they are fully aware of what is going on on the other side of the television screen ... Edited by - Cuddly Wombat on 9/20/2008 9:13:09 AM
Many times I have actually shouted at the TV or computer monitor: "STOP STARING AT THE FUCKING CAMERA!" So I guess you all can figure out where I stand on this issue. PS The same goes for photo sets of people having sex. When the chick turns her head and stares into the camera while sucking a dude's cock, it just kills any sensuality that the photo may otherwise have.
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08
Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:26AM
Immortal Desires, ahhh, yikes!!! Full of over the top camera angles, and fuffy lighting, bad acting, horrible dialogue, and pooftery effects. All the stuff I HATE IN PORN, which is so apropos of the subject here. But if you like it, you blow your nuts off my friend. Who am I to take away that magical moment? Wombat? Really ... are you from Wimbledon in England? Jus' curious. SJx
Camera flash in the video. It's actually hard for me to believe this is still happening at the 'Studio' Level, but it is. Seriously folks, it's not that hard to take your box shots before or after, and with so many producers shooting HD, if you really need that sloppy 'cum shot' pic for the back of the box, pretty much any still frame from your HD camera will do the trick. - Marie
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Oct 3 2008 : 11:25AM
I am Australian through and through - and unlike the common English, garbage-foraging, womble, the more carnally-inclined wombat eats roots shoots and leaves!
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08
Posted - Oct 7 2008 : 4:55AM
Funnnny ... you know the womble is ONLY found on Wimbledon Common (England) and no where else in the world. They too eat leafs and berries and wear clothes, unlike the common, boring fashion challenged wombat! So there .............. :) My goodness, have I dated a few Aussies in my time! I actually spent a whole year (age 16 through 17) in Attadale, Perth. I went to business school! Ha, how funny to look back. I never had so much sex in cars as I did then. Good times. But those poor Aussies, not the most exciting of lays, I would say ;} Before marriage, I dated an Aussie, and I never did meet a man who enjoyed as many objects up his ass as much as he. I became quite the pro at rimming!!! Is this a common Australian male fetish? One wonders ....
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Oct 7 2008 : 10:32AM
Attadale - I know it well as I am from Perth and would have been rooting around in cars at King's Park about the same time. I am afraid that I must confess that many Aussie blokes are lazy bastards when it comes to sex. I don't think anal play is all that big down here - it is probably just the case that the guy was happy that you were doing all the work down there and he can just have a beer and watch the telly. To get back on thread, I hate scenes where the girl pretends to enjoy rimming a guy and you see her stick her head down there for a split second, do a quick tongue flick, and then come up quickly for air. Leave it out entirely, I say. It would be of much more entertainment value if she just shoved a finger up there without warning at the vital time.
where ultra-feminine meets ultra-anal ;) 78 Posts 7/08
Posted - Oct 7 2008 : 12:56PM
I've found there are times when it actually feels more natural to look at the camera. I mean, the camera's there, you can't ignore it so when it's right in front of my face I prefer to acknowledge it's presence and let the viewers get a few moments of my attention. Purposely ignoring the camera feels just as fake as always staring into it, at least for me. Charlotte
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08
Posted - Oct 7 2008 : 4:47PM
My Aussie beau was discovered here in America while on a 1 year business trip. He LOVED being fucked and rimmed, and I was happy to indulge. I am always up for new experiences, fetishes, etc. I had quite a few experiences in Australia to confirm that Aussies are not good lays, present company excluded (I hope!). Regarding the whole rim thing; I am surprised anyone ever does it on camera to be honest. It is so intimate and a bit dirty, literally. You never know what's down there, and even if the bloke is super clean, you can never be sure what's in the chamber. I don't like watching rimming on camera and always, always fast forward. Chalk it up to one of my pet peeves in porn! PS What's your first name, I want to make sure we didn't have sex!!!! :):):)
Three things that make porn work for me: 1. Something unexpected happening during a scene. The woman's girlfriend comes home while she's having sex with the post man and joins in for e.g. Be creative will ya? 2. Chemistry, kissing, timing and NOT too many close ups. Make me think I'm a voyeur as if I was the one who posted this couple or group having sex onto Youtube without their knowing. Show more kissing than clit. Don't run into 20+ minutes...10 minutes if done well (don't tease) is good enough per scene. Then get back to the plot. Spend some money and I'll spend mine. 3. See 1. Dux
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Oct 8 2008 : 9:39AM
Oh, believe me, I would have remembered if that had happened!!!! There was a Private magazine from the early 1990s which had a pictorial which started with the girl (Monica Cavett from memory) giving a blow-job to some guy whilst sitting on a park bench in King's Park looking back over Perth at night. I still think that is probably one of the most interesting things ever to happen in Perth. Back to thread - I used to love it when Desiree Cousteau would look to the camera and smile and wink during scenes when she was in the doggy position.
all the talking & looking at the camera in so overplayed now. that was fine when the gonzo porn was just starting off. Its just not sexy. Go back to making sexy porn. Take some hints from the 70's & early 80's
Back to thread - I used to love it when Desiree Cousteau would look to the camera and smile and wink during scenes when she was in the doggy position. I remember she did that it Hot Rackets in the Jaccuzi scene.