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StillHope
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"You didn't say Car Ram Rod"
149 Posts
2/06
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 12:47PM
I did a search on this in this forum, but it came up with too many pages.
I don't want to sound like the "bangbus drop off" guy, but so I am going to ask a question, but I shall add caveats.
"How real is "The Training O"?
Caveats- I know it is consensual
I know they have safewords
I know they could quit at anytime
I know they chose to do it
Now, that being said, is it really four days? Can they really invade the hotel room anytime they want and do whatever they want to the girl? What kind of model release has that action?
When I went to bootcamp I had to sign like a million pieces of paper and take an oath and they had to explain to me I was signing away 6 years of my life.
Are the timestamps real? They have to pay a ton etc...
presto_nl
Member

103 Posts
3/09
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 1:32PM
I love the KINK.COM sites for the way they shoot S&M/bondage scenes.
A lot of the Training of O scenes have to be fictional. Just look at the guidelines of Kink.com for their directors/webmasters.
http://www.kink.com/shootingrules.php
Perhaps some participants in their shoots can tell something about it.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 2:56PM
I'm pretty sure those tears of Trina were very real when she was being abused with an electric cattle prod. For me it was totally unwatchable. I mean there's nothing erotic about a girl crying especially if the girl is your favorite pornstar of all time!
Jaktarn
Senior Member

4798 Posts
5/05
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 3:04PM
This is some weird shit. I am not a bondage guy and the only scenes that I feel have som genuine sexy feeling to them is meninpain.com
StillHope
Deactivated User

"You didn't say Car Ram Rod"
149 Posts
2/06
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 3:16PM
Firstly, forgive my grammar in my initial post.
Secondly, I am not questioning whether or not the abuse (or whatever the term you use) is real, I mean Bobbi Star comments on hers that the brush they used to scrub her down was a car wash brush and it hurt badly.
The question is, are the time-lines real? Is it really four days? Do they really give the "master" a key to their hotel room so he can come in whenever he wants? I wouldn't think anyone would capitulate to such a request, as most porn stars need time to get in the right frame of mind.
Also, I worked at Camp Ganci, one of the camps inside Abu Ghraib. I know all about what sleep deprevation can do, along with not knowing when someone is going to bust in your door (fear torture) .
As aforementioned, someone who has shot with them can provide better details.
 
StillHope
Deactivated User

"You didn't say Car Ram Rod"
149 Posts
2/06
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 3:21PM
Also, I looked over the rules, what rule is violated by a 4 day shoot?
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 3:52PM
I haven't seen anything with a key and a hotel room so I can't comment on that. I only saw the Trina scene because Trina was in it and I thought it was pretty fucked up!
melt
Pornstar Diplomat

The pride of Manchester
3763 Posts
1/09
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 4:11PM

@StillHope - The best person that can answer your questions would be that angel that you have already mentioned - Miss Bobbi Starr. She is very helpful and if you pose your questions to her on her thread I am almost certain she will answer you as honestly as she is able.
JohnHenry
Member

165 Posts
3/09
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 5:58PM
Hi Guys,
At the risk of bursting bubbles either way, Kink.com is one of (if not the most) professional porn shooting companies I've ever worked with.
First off, there isn't a single girl who's put on TheTrainingOfO without having first shot for another kink site. It's not to everyone's taste, but it's very much to others; you can thank TTOO (and the $20 I put down for the site a year and a half ago) for Charlotte Vale being in porn in the first place. She and I watched it together, and she said to me "I want that!" Of course, she meant she wanted me to to that to her, and I mistook her for saying she wanted to do videos, but... details details. Obviously, not everyone wants to see their favorite model in tears. As a viewer, I don't really enjoy seeing a girl railed in the ass for forty straight minutes, but I don't hold it against anyone who does.
The shoots are scheduled five days in a row, with one of those days scheduled as a 'break.' Girls (and guys) who shoot for kink don't have a hotel room per se, but rather stay in the armory in quite comfortable quarters assigned to them.
There's an element in all kink related shoots where fantasy competes with reality. In the case of kink.com, the models comfort and well-being always takes precedence. I think it improves the quality of their work, and the respect they command as an enterprise.
Regards,
John
KristineAndrews
Member

16 Posts
5/09
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 6:09PM
The shoot with Bobbi Star was in a hotel room because it was before the dorms in the Armory were set up. Now all the models spend the night in a room in the Armory, slightly dingyer and less generic looking than the regular dorm rooms. When I was there the room didn't lock and I was given the option of going in one of the regular dorm rooms, but there is the understanding that they do have the key to your room.
I was certainly much more tidy than I normally am for fear of an unexpected inspection. You are allowed to come and go from the building when you aren't shooting although there is a curfew to ensure you're well rested for the next day.
StillHope
Deactivated User

"You didn't say Car Ram Rod"
149 Posts
2/06
Posted - Aug 4 2009 : 10:12PM
I am humbled and thankful for the responses, thanks.
I must say, a four day shoot must be intense.
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presto_nl
Member

103 Posts
3/09
Posted - Aug 10 2009 : 7:00PM
Cherry Torn did an 8 day ?! shoot for the Training of O. In that case you must be a true masochist.
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Aug 10 2009 : 9:51PM
Spending eight days voluntarily listening to that guy talking incessantly definitely qualifies as masochism.
presto_nl
Member

103 Posts
3/09
Posted - Aug 11 2009 : 2:04PM
poloprinz
Member

We didn't bring a compass 'cause we ain't got nowhere to go
173 Posts
4/09
Posted - Aug 12 2009 : 2:03PM
I'm not doubting the 'true masochist' bit, but Cherry Torn did two 4-day shoots, one in october 08, the other in february 09. Not one 8-day shoot.
I'm not doubting the intensity of a 4-day shoot, either. There is a reason for the break-day in between shooting days.



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