The wife is considering implants...

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mayotteru Member 17 Posts 3/12	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 2:12AM So, my wife has really small breasts and for a long time she has wanted to get implants. I'm a breast man myself which means I'm psyched at the prospect of her having some big 'uns for me to play with, but like most men out there I find naturals to be far superior. Nonetheless I've seen some very nice fake tits in porn, so while realizing that a set of fake tits will never match the real thing, I know that they can be successful if done right. So for those who have gotten them, or who otherwise know a lot about implants, I'm wondering what goes into making fake tits be the best they can be in terms of looks and feel. Are there certain types of materials that are the best, or is it entirely dependent on the skill of the doctor? Are there some notable things to avoid, either for aesthetic or health reasons? Also should getting implants be avoided if we're planning on having more kids? (We already have one kid so they're already a bit droopy). [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 2:24AM You should both go talk to a surgeon who specializes in reconstructive surgery. He, or she, will definitely charge more than a chop-shop doc, but the results will be worth it. [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 3:00AM So you both decide what do in your life and love life based on a few answers in a porn forum? Good luck! [Link]
vasya1 New Member 5 Posts 2/12	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 2:56PM Ifyou start loving her more she should... [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 8:33PM I hate my implants and I wish I had never gotten them. My guy hates them also and considers them to be a butchery of my body - which he liked perfectly well before I got implants. I was an idiot. [Link]

BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 9:17PM mayotteru, Plastic surgeons don't really reveal a objective whole picture. There's no good longitudinal data for women with breast implants, and although they have been deemed safe by the FDA, they only have been deemed safe in the short-term (even they stated, "Breast implants are not lifetime devices. The longer a woman has silicone gel-filled breast implants, the more likely she is to experience complications"). A lot of women have to get surgeries post-implantation for problems directly related to implants. Plus there's also a rheumatical (auto-immune diseases) concerns. There's definitely lots of ruptures. Lots of instances of chronic pain syndromes and fibromyalgia. Many require explantation (removing implant). These implants also exacerbate and cause adhesions. Adhesions are problematic for future surgeries (where surgeon has to go in, I've seen them and are nightmare). Plus, every major procedure requiring general anesthesia introduces risk of death on the table. Therefore if a woman gets and implant and requires 2 surgeries related to the implants, this is 3 rolls of a dice. These are things to be considered and this shouldn't be taken lightly. Is it really worth subjecting a loved one to these risks, especially the unknown ones? [invalid URL removed]Breast implants safe, but not for life - US experts Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 3/19/2012 9:48:25 PM [Link]
David Cop-a-feel Deactivated User Trust me, honey, it gets better 323 Posts 10/10	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 9:39PM Well over here there is mass panic amongst women who've had the French-made PIP implants as it was discovered industrial silicone was being used in them, so be careful. Personally,I don't like 'em. [Link]
loveporn Member 186 Posts 5/07	Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 9:47PM I think we need to see some pictures before we can really say if she needs them or not. [Link]
alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10	Posted - Mar 20 2012 : 12:05AM Kimi Lixx wrote: I hate my implants and I wish I had never gotten them. My guy hates them also and considers them to be a butchery of my body - which he liked perfectly well before I got implants. I was an idiot. Click to expand Kimi -- your views seem to have evolved a lot. Many of your earlier installments on the implant issue were qualified and noted the hazards and complications, both for you individually and in general, as well as expressing the desire eventually to have yours removed; but, you also were at times explicity glad to have gotten them (unless I misread you?). Are you willing to elaborate on your very strongly negative position now? Is this a result of new information, new experience, serious rethinking of the issue? And, am I being way too fucking intrusive? (If so, I am sure I can rely on you to tell me -- you are always so direct and forthright, which I mean entirely as a compliment!) [Link]
mayotteru Member 17 Posts 3/12	Posted - Mar 20 2012 : 1:46AM Hmm, didn't think I'd get such negative responses. Definitely food for thought. Just to be clear I'm not pushing her to get them; this is her idea. I'm amenable to the idea but only if it would be safe, of course. [Link]
lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02	Posted - Mar 20 2012 : 1:54AM I think she'd also age a lot better without them. Small tits are nice. [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 20 2012 : 2:43AM What BYOB_Kenobi wrote above is not just a "parade of horribles;" read Teagan Presley's real-life account in this recent post: I had my boobs redone due to scar tissue forming in my chest, my body rejecting them, and then tearing my pectoral muscle during my Penthouse Pet layout and most of the surgeries have been reconstructive. Yes, girls especially in this business including myself (cause I had mine done at 18) don't know, hear or realize all of the real life problems that can, could, and sometimes will go wrong with having a foreign object in your body. Click to expand [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Mar 20 2012 : 10:07PM Something else to consider. I did research on some breast cancer chemotherapeutics and used CT & MRI scans to track malignant tumors. It was disturbing how many scans I came across with implants, who also had malignant tumors. Although I am not saying there is a relationship between implants and cancer, because it wasn't part of the study, it was disturbing the number I saw who had malignant tumors. On a related note. "After an intensive review of known cases of a rare form of cancer in breast implant recipients, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says women with implants may have a very small, but increased risk of developing anaplastic large cell lymphoma, or ALCL." - FDA Consumer Report (Jan 2011) This is something they don't tell you. Just remember medical research and facts are dynamic and change everyday. [Link]
Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Mar 21 2012 : 7:46AM I don't get the need for implants. Personally I don't like the way they look either when dressed or undressed. I guess some have them and I don't know they have them, but those that are noticeable aren't attractive to me. I keep telling my partner how much I LOVE her little tits. I'm definitely a breast man, but that doesn't mean I like them big. I wish more women were more comfortable with their great little breasts. [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Mar 21 2012 : 9:47PM alphadachs wrote: Kimi -- your views seem to have evolved a lot. Many of your earlier installments on the implant issue were qualified and noted the hazards and complications, both for you individually and in general, as well as expressing the desire eventually to have yours removed; but, you also were at times explicity glad to have gotten them (unless I misread you?). Are you willing to elaborate on your very strongly negative position now? Is this a result of new information, new experience, serious rethinking of the issue? And, am I being way too fucking intrusive? (If so, I am sure I can rely on you to tell me -- you are always so direct and forthright, which I mean entirely as a compliment!) Click to expand You're not being intrusive. I have always been willing to share my experience with my implants. I do believe that having implants has enabled me to reach a point of emotional and mental balance with my body that I was unable to reach prior to having implants. I don't know if I would have been able to get to that point without the implants - and now I'll never know. That has been a very powerful positive experience. However, while I have come to terms with my view of my body I have realized that the hatred I felt for my body was a result of the opinions and preferences of others - and my perceptions of those opinions and preferences - and it did not reflect my own opinions and preferences. I actually don't like big boobs any better than small boobs, and I don't like implants better than unaugmented breasts. Basically, I hated my "flat ugly scarred misshapen" breasts because I believed that they were the reason nobody wanted me. Somehow, in my mind, I thought that if I could just get people to see past my chest they would see how awesomely fantastic I was and they'd want me for me. Of course, that's not what happened. What happened was that the same people who wouldn't look twice at me with no bumps on my chest gave me tons of attention when I had big bumps on my chest. My face didn't change. My hair didn't change. My butt, legs, tummy, eyes... everything else was the same. Somehow two lumps of fake goo changed me from a dog into a goddess. They didn't want me - they wanted lumps. I couldn't believe how foolish I had been to want them to want me. What I learned was that nobody that doesn't want me can see past my chest and anyone who does want me loves my chest no matter what it looks like. So that's the mental trip. The physical trip has never been good. 6 surgeries, never ending pain, severe encapsulation on one side and tissue degradation on the other. If I could have them removed this minute I would. They hurt. A lot. [Link]

Breeze Member One Smokin Hot Chic 532 Posts 11/08	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 1:52AM Kimi Lixx wrote: My face didn't change. My hair didn't change. My butt, legs, tummy, eyes... everything else was the same. Somehow two lumps of fake goo changed me from a dog into a goddess. They didn't want me - they wanted lumps. I couldn't believe how foolish I had been to want them to want me. What I learned was that nobody that doesn't want me can see past my chest and anyone who does want me loves my chest no matter what it looks like. Click to expand I can't argue with Kimi nor do I want to, the large breast thing is what I call a noticible trait in a woman. It is subconscious in the male mind. Men are attracted to women with large breasts and if anybody can show me any evidence otherwise I will be happy to review it. I have physically tried two experiments regarding the large breast attraction. Men actually deny it, over and over. Breasts are a subconcious attribute in a woman that men are attracted to whether they admit it or not. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 2:50AM Breeze wrote: Men are attracted to women with large breasts and if anybody can show me any evidence otherwise I will be happy to review it. Click to expand I think it might be more accurate to say that breasts are an attraction, but not a sufficient attraction for most males. In other words, yes, they cause males to take a look, but so do faces, and breasts rarely decide the issue of whether or not a guy is going to go after a gal. In my case, make that never. [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 6:21AM Actually, I think there was a study that showed that men first look at a womans face (and women look at a mens crotch). Can't find it right now. Jacco [Link]
alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 12:35PM Breeze wrote: Men are attracted to women with large breasts and if anybody can show me any evidence otherwise I will be happy to review it. I have physically tried two experiments regarding the large breast attraction. Men actually deny it, over and over. Breasts are a subconcious attribute in a woman that men are attracted to whether they admit it or not. Click to expand Yes, I will notice very large beasts, just as my eye will be drawn to an extremely large nose or any other feature that stands out from the ordinary. That doesn't mean that huge breasts or noses are appealing to me, nor that they are necessarily repellant either; they are just striking traits that catch the eye. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 1:31PM Jacco wrote: Actually, I think there was a study that showed that men first look at a womans face (and women look at a mens crotch). Click to expand If we assume that both sexes are looking for evidence of good genes, and left/right symmetry is the most basic factor in determining it, then the face is the obvious place to start. The crotch? Not so much, so I'm not sure I believe that one. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 3:10PM Hardware wrote: If we assume that both sexes are looking for evidence of good genes . . . Click to expand Why would we assume this? Personally, I don't feel that I am subconsciously acting as an evolutionary profit-maximizer. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 3:19PM We might assume so because we think Darwin makes a good case, and we believe we see such action in other species. You might argue that, being human, we are able to rationalize other, better arguments for selecting a mate, but that is not sufficient to disprove the existence of the basic impulse. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 3:39PM @mayotteru Since you asked, my advice would be to have your wife start off by reading Kimi's posts on the topic of her implants. Then I would suggest that she read all the horror stories that she can find from other women. Then I recommend that you tell her how much you love her real breasts and beg her not to go under the knife. --------------- My only personal experience with the implant question is with one of my college girlfriends, with whom I've kept in loose touch over the years. She had lovely smallish breasts and they fit her frame perfectly. I mean, they were absolutely exquisite: beautiful to look at and wonderful to hold. After she had her first child, she was bothered that her breasts were sagging slightly, so she got D-cup implants. When I heard about it, I was pained and astonished. Flash-forward 20 years: After years of problems, she had to have them removed for serious health reasons last year. She is sorry she messed with her breasts in the first place. -------------- My wife's breasts sag after two kids. So what? They are hers and she is mine. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 3:48PM Hardware wrote: We might assume so because we think Darwin makes a good case, and we believe we see such action in other species. Click to expand Darwin makes a good case for natural selection, but not for individuals acting in concert with their "evolutionary best interests" (so to speak). My own view is that, were things so simple, we would be conscious of this basis for our choices because, evolutionarily speaking, being conscious of it would be the most adaptive trait. [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 8:04PM Jacco wrote: Actually, I think there was a study that showed that men first look at a womans face (and women look at a mens crotch). Can't find it right now. Jacco Click to expand This might be the study you are referring to. Yup. All the studies (which results were validated) on physical attractiveness and beauty for males ---> females show face overwhelmingly the first look and desired, breast and butt coming behind. If I remember it was like 35% face, 20% breast, 15% butt... All that horse-shit that "men like big breasted women" therefore breast implants are desirable is BS. Majority would rather have a pretty face irregardless of breast size. [Link]

Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 22 2012 : 8:19PM @Bob, I think you're looking at it from the wrong end, in that humans don't appear at the beginning of life, we show up a long way down the road. If the program is already there and it works, where does the evolutionary pressure to change it for humans come from? [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 23 2012 : 5:47PM ^ Although I certainly believe in the evolution of species, my personal view is that people attribute too much explanatory power to a simplistic and dogmatic evolutionism. We have a romance with unitary theories, and we often stretch facts to fit them. This mode of thinking involves a kind of reductivism which, although it may appear "logical" and "sensible", does not (to my way of thinking) sufficiently account for the diversity of human culture and experience. I find it analogous to the mechanistic view of human nature that sprung up in the 18th Century in the wake of Newton's theories. [Link]
Rubberhole Deactivated User 256 Posts 2/10	Posted - Mar 23 2012 : 5:51PM 1 word of advice on store bought titties: Checkbook... [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 24 2012 : 1:32AM Bob wrote: Although I certainly believe in the evolution of species, my personal view is that people attribute too much explanatory power to a simplistic and dogmatic evolutionism. Click to expand I'm sure that is true, yet one cannot deny that instinct exists. It seems to me that to suggest humans do nothing by instinct is just falling off the other side of the horse. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 25 2012 : 2:46AM Hardware wrote: . . . one cannot deny that instinct exists. Click to expand I don't. But I think that instinct operates in a complex interplay with higher levels of thinking and feeling and that, as a consequence, the attempt to boil down human interaction to animal instinct cooks out the truth of experience. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 25 2012 : 2:58PM Then it would appear that we're in agreement. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 26 2012 : 4:33PM ^ I'm not surprised. I almost always agree with you. :) [Link]
Amawatcher Member Show it to us! 134 Posts 9/11	Posted - Apr 4 2012 : 10:08AM lots of marriages end after breast implants. You might like em, but soon they will attract a lot of other guys attention, make her appear to be slimmer, and she probably would be approached by men to, in nothing else, for conversation and a good look.Good luck. [Link]
francios Senior Member 1802 Posts 2/05	Posted - Apr 4 2012 : 4:29PM My #2 girl got them almost 10 years ago. She had a major confidence problem as she was barely an A cup on a 6ft+ frame. Long and lean but no chest was her saying. She got them and went to a BB as that is all the farther her skin could be stretched. for the first 18 months it looked like her skin was oiled up and ready to pop. She took tons of vitamin E to get her skin to be more elastic and then her implants finally dropped and looked more realistic. She worried about that durning the first 2 years. Once they dropped and the shinny skin issue went away they look AMAZING. She loves them, they feel very natural and have plenty of movement to them. She is glad she got them done. [Link]