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Smiler Grogan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 1:34PM
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I P Freely
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 7:12PM
Interesting.
Smiler Grogan All-Star Supporter
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the war cry
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 7:28PM
OK, she deleted it.
Basically, it seemed as though she was accusing RJ of sexual assault (not necessarily against her, didn't say one way or the other) and that she boycotts industry events that invite him.
She used the #MeToo tag.
A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 12:18AM
^ The latitude that is being used to qualify as #metoo is getting wider and wider as days are passing. We are now seeing women put up that tag for someone looking at them while crossing the street or a random guy at a restaurant saying she looks pretty. I feel sharing stories is important, and #metoo can be powerful; but it is starting to include things far beyond why it was started.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 12:27AM
Ron has been accused of rape and other forms of sexual assault in the past. My understanding is that he has a bit of a reputation, but for all I know that could be false or just based on gossip.
 
Quorrl
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 9:58AM
^^
That may be. But in Ron Jeremy's case, the criticism and allegations seems to be different than him saying to someone that she is pretty etc.
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On Twitter (and Youtube), that discussion is particularly related to cam model Ginger Banks. It was also part of the negative feedback surrounding Exxxotica Chicago, so that the official Expo statement afterwards also included a paragraph on Ron Jeremy.
EXXXOTICA statement
To know what it was all about then, here some (necessarily negatively biased against RJ) texts with links to the original sources:
https://www.miss-lollipop.com/sample-emails-u-can-send-to-exxxotica/
https://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2017/06/30/ron-jeremy-exxxotica-and-twitter-as-a-form-of-resistance/
Exxxotica seems to have re-thought and revised her policy by now:
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Quorrl
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Posted - Nov 2 2017 : 7:56PM
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 2 2017 : 8:49PM
IIRC, Ginger Lynn said that Jeremy raped her in the past.
A_Fan
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Posted - Nov 3 2017 : 2:32PM
I have difficulty with the Deen accusations because they were all recent enough for the girls to file police reports when they decided to come out publicly. However, it was twitter / social media things and that was that.
If someone is making an accusation that is 10+ years old, it may be tough for the legal system so I can understand that not being a viable option and speaking out is the only way.
Within porn there was out rage. Deen lost a lot of work (yes he still works but not with everyone), ADT went into long threads, etc. Porn is not mainstream so the outrage may not be so publicly noted. But, it is there.
I do believe in letting victims have their say, and leaning heavily into believing them. But ,we need to be cautious to not just blindly accept anyone accusing anyone and accepting it as legitimate. That is dangerous territory.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 3 2017 : 3:50PM
Yes and what his fellow performer Jerry Butler wrote about his behaviour reinforces her claim imo.
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Nov 4 2017 : 6:47PM
Outside of porn fanbois, no one cares. I'm sure if a female performer was subject to unacceptable behavior, the average civilian reaction would be; "Huh, what did you expect?"
cormac
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1093 Posts
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Posted - Nov 5 2017 : 5:53AM
^ Then I'm not average! But general public, yeah maybe. That attitude should be fought though just like the view that if a prostitute is raped then 'what do they expect?'
Draxxx
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Posted - Nov 5 2017 : 7:29AM
Okay...I'm kinda shocked at my response to this. After watching some of the YouTube vids I have to ask..."Is the stuff Ron is doing in the vids the stuff these women are calling Ron out for as bad behavior?" Because I thought it was at different types of events under different type of circumstances. The second question I have to ask is if the interaction between the girls and fans/guys has changed over time. Back in the late 90s and early 2000s I used to regularly go to the AVN shows (some before it was open to the public) and not only did fans grab and grope the girls but the girls encouraged it. That's the way most of the girls took pics with fans. To be honest that was one of the main reasons I enjoyed going year after year. About 90% percent of the time a fan took a pic it was of him/her squeezing a girls boobs or his hands on her bare butt or whatever. Not every performer allowed this but the ones who didn't would sometimes say so up front or just gently push the fans hands away. Not exaggerating but honestly the things most/many of the girls seemed most upset about or bothered by is that the people running the shows would scold them for showing their bare breasts. Have things changed?
So if the girls are upset over the kind of stuff Ron is doing in the videos, I can understand them being upset if things are different now. But in Ron's defense the stuff he's doing in the vids was considered acceptable behavior at one point and considering he's sorta in the porn biz I thinks he's a funny guy, I can see him thinking this was no big deal at all. But keep in mind I'm only talking about the kind of quick grabs and gropes we see in the vids and not any sort of penetration or unwanted kissing or taking things to far. I firmly believe that all women should be respected and not have to deal with unwanted contact no matter what her job is or how she's dressed or how she acts.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Nov 5 2017 : 8:39PM
^
As someone who routinely goes to conventions, generally when I see the stuff like light groping, it's either because the female performer is the one that initiated/encouraged it, or the fan asked beforehand. Most of the fans I've seen have been respectful enough that they don't immediately go to do that as soon as they get in the picture. If I'm being honest, a lot of the time the performers that are okay with being touched like that have to actually tell the fans that it's okay before they do it. So if someone, even Ron, is doing that type of thing without context or any type of conversation beforehand, then yeah, a lot of women, even performers, are going to have a problem with it. And that's not to mention that IMO, most cam girls at these conventions are more hands-off with the fans than most performers are.
Draxxx
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Posted - Nov 6 2017 : 10:54AM
I agree with you. More than anything I was wondering how much or if things changed as far as interaction with the girls since my con days. As I mentioned not all girls where okay with fans touching/groping them. I just feel that although I think Ron's wrong with the sort of grabbing did in the vids I saw without permission considering the place and circumstances I can see where he wouldn't think he was doing anything wrong. I can also see where girls might certainly not like what he did but I see it more as an annoyance with them and not worth reporting him or calling it sexual assault. But please keep in mind I'm basing my opinion solely on the 3 Youtube videos I watched. But it's not a stretch to think because of what I saw on the vids that he could possibly push things further.
 
cormac
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Posted - Nov 6 2017 : 11:02AM
^ If someone grabs a girl without consent, it's an assault. If he grabs them in a sexual way, it's a sexual assault. Not simply an "annoyance", porn convention or otherwise.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Nov 6 2017 : 8:26PM
^
Slight correction, if anyone grabs anyone without consent, it's assault. Gender doesn't matter when it comes to regular assault or sexual assault.
cormac
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Posted - Nov 7 2017 : 5:39AM
^ I was referring specifically to the Ron Jeremy allegations, but of course you're absolutely right.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Nov 16 2017 : 11:31AM



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