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doublebind
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Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 6:51PM
Hello. I'm new to ADT (hi!) and as I've quickly gathered, you all have a general hatred of tube sites, which I can totally understand. It's mind boggling to me that some studios still actively partner with/advertise on the same sites that are giving full scenes (or discs) away for free but that's another topic for another day.
In addition to being a porn fan, I'm also, like a lot of you, pretty tech savvy. I work in the graphic design industry and tinker with video editing in my free time. Somewhere along the way, a light bulb went off in my head that said "why not combine porn with video editing?", so I started making compilation videos.
Basically what I do is grab short clips from tube sites. (I do not, repeat do NOT download full scenes. I'm with you all, it's morally bankrupt..and illegal), chop them up, splice them together, add transition effects and custom opening/closing slides.
I host all of my comps on one specific site (not going to mention which one) and I've garnered a bit of a following. All of my videos do really well in terms of views and feedback and I get messages inquiring as to when my next one is coming out and who the subject will be.
I feel, though, that I'm still lurking in somewhat of a grey area. I have, let's say, well north of 10 videos out and I've yet to have a takedown request filed on a single one which I see as a good sign. Personally, I feel that what I do falls under fair use. The splices I take are short (usually 1 minute, never longer than 2). I relate it to sampling a piece of music. 16 bars or less is fair use, anything more is infringing. To my understanding, I at least meet the spirit of the law. The amount of footage I use (from clips often provided by the studios themselves, mind you) is not substantial in relation to the work as a whole and I don't feel that what I do has any negative effect on the market for or value of the copyrighted work. If anything, I would hope my videos encourage viewers to sign up for a starlet's personal site (I always include their URL on my fade-out slide) or one of the big mega sites so they can see the full scenes.
So, what say you, ADT? You guys are the professionals and the aficionados and I value your opinion. After reading a lot of posts across the web about tube sites and especially after reading how you, the experts, feel about them, I'm kind of torn. I definitely feel shady now just hosting my videos on one because they are apparently bathing in a stench of sorts that casts its odor off on everything around them no matter how legitimate they try to make themselves appear.
On the other hand, I make my videos with good intention. I started making comps as a way to combine two of my favorite hobbies but also to "give back", if you will, by producing what are essentially highlight reels for my favorite starlets. I'm sure many, if not all, of you can identify with the feeling you get when you discover a new starlet. You want to see all of the best stuff they've done right now. I feel like my videos make that a bit more possible without spoiling things by giving away too much. However if it can be illustrated to me that I am actually doing more harm than good, I will definitely take that into consideration and, depending on the strength of your argument, subsequently stop making videos.
Sorry for the long-winded first post and thanks in advance for your feedback.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 1 2014 : 7:13AM
^ I do the same but not from tubesites , not even a scene for many reasons first of them the quality too low.
I actually rip a scene from a DVD I own or take a scene I downloaded from a legit website when I was a member and then I join the scenes together with some different programs either to match their resolution or to create a menu and then creating a DVD.
I create either a compilation of an actress usually with the same subject or put some scenes vaguely related coming from different sources who can create some kind of coherent story.
it is for personal use only , I begun to do this when I wanted to watch at a performer but didn't want to stay there changing the DVD all the time. To get the menu , the presentation and sometimes forced commercials and FBI warnings really pissed me off (and I can't thank enough Evil Angel and Jules Jordan Video to allow us to skip that) either I am a legit customer and I don't need to be annoyed or I'm a pirate and don't give a fuck to that , put your warnings and don't force me read it (in Europe they are multilingual, sometimes ten languages and you have to read them all).
I begun creating my own (fantasised) stories noticing how some stories could be linked It was with Darryl Hanah , there was a scene from My Mom Craves black cock in which she forbade her daughter to date black guys , her daughter didn't listen and did it, she then walked on in and caught her, she send her daughter away and have some talk with the guy then after a while fucked him, then it was her daughter who caught her and the story came out: her mother didn't want her to date blacks because if she saw one at home she could not resist and had to fuck him , so to stay loyal to her husband she had to forbid her to date them. This still getting fucked and with her daughter in there naming her slut and whore with Darryl agreeing , yes, oh yes while smiling at the guy to have him continue to pound her.
Then I saw a movie in which LT played as a delivery guy who went in the wrong place , Darryl saw him and went to lead him properly but then they begun to fuck right there leaning on his van and then on the ground without even unclothing completely and then with him fucking her in the ass with her completely bent over.
I found that a very fit couple with the other one.
Then there was a Black Market (Who's your Mommy) scene with her and LT again but this time he went upstairs reached her and fucked her in the kitchen as if she was a cheater and he was her regular lover, the location looked the same as the scene before, so again this seemed somewhat linked to that before. When he was finished he reached his car (or van) in which was Shorty Mac waiting for him and told him something about it and her.
Then I saw her in a Shorty Mac Adventures flick , she was at her office and he reached her for some interview for employment or so and they obviously ended fucking.
Again this scene linked marvellously well with the one before as if Shorty reached for her at her office after getting advices from LT.
So I put all these scenes together into one DVD as if they were a unique story of a married woman who couldn't help herself and went wild with her passion unleashed and some guys exploiting it.
This dvd couldn't be found in reality they are all different companies with different owners , besides you may find such movies with related scenes with one pornstar only in Japanese porn only, but I like them so I created one myself
EDIT reason: fixed something, plurals mostly

Edited by - LCF on 1/1/2014 11:59:02 AM

doublebind
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12/13
Posted - Jan 1 2014 : 9:08AM
Damn man, you took it to a whole other level!
Jaktarn
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Posted - Jan 1 2014 : 9:22AM
Very interesting stories from both of you indeed!
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 1 2014 : 12:46PM
From what you have listed, you do not in my opinion, qualify under fair use.
 
charn
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12/09
Posted - Jan 2 2014 : 2:11AM
There are many videos I could watch again with different editing and mixing, but that would probably require the master tapes or files without the editing of released video, and I don't have the software to edit video files.
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