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LCF  All-Star Member  Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 |  Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 3:13PMI've been informed that t two of them actually faulted but I have no evidence of this the companies are Pink'o who ceased its activity early this year and now Topline and Moonlight Video followed. For those who don't know who they were Pink'o was maybe the major company in Italy and the owner of a number of contract girls including Roberta Gemma, Claudia Antonelli , Edelweiss , Belicia and many others but for no apparent reason they can't sell enough to maintain the company in the business so they closed Topline was a distributor, reseller and producer with the same fate they resisted more than Pink'o but eventually they ceased too , an unconfirmed rumor says they actually faulted Moonlight Video was also the distributor of many major titles including those of Vivid rumor , again unconfirmed so far says that they also faulted Pink'o was the only one smart enough to get out before faulting Rocco himself had problems with his distributor in Italy (the same of Evil Angel) Other companies though seem to have no problem Red Hot , 10 hex 100 or Thema for example this happened so suddenly that it is unclear what caused it , piracy can't be the only reason , it is not likely that almost all the porn consumers in Italy begun to download what they wanted , also it is unlikely the they damaged only the major companies but not the smaller , these latter should have been the first in line to fault if it was a general change in Italy I'm trying to understand what could have caused this sudden amazing drop of sells for them all Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on Jul 28 2011 [Link] |
| Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 4:17PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 4:27PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 6:26PM Furthermore, we don't know the margins these companies were operating on. That is to say, a reduction in sales that might inconvenience one company may suffice to put another under water. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 7:09PM You may be right but surely featured movies spoken or dubbed in Italian are of less interest in other markets than in that internal I mean why someone should buy Savanna Samson's Been Blackmaled with the alternative title "Vanità" (Vanity) completely dubbed in Italian and with no extras? Furthermore in the case you said than it is even more strange what caused them to close it is impossible that all of their customers begun to pirate their movies at once in the whole Europe. But it is true I don't know what their margins were , it is interesting though that another company (Thema) produces featured movies in location and maintain contract stars (Monica Maserati , Dayana Borromeo, Alessia Roma among the others all unknown in the USA I believe) but doesn't seem to suffer this much Pro-am production are strangely balanced one closed last year (Hans Rolly) another two years ago (Roy Parsifal) but has been bought by another company and is now if not raising strong at least selling its fair share 10 hex 100 another pro-am seems to be living well Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 7/28/2011 7:12:13 PM [Link] |
| davecummings Member 368 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 7:50PM [Link] |
| Michaelxavier Member Women, wine and song...there is nothing better. 152 Posts 7/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 12:00AM [Link] |
| Irish Caraway Member I like to fist girls. 274 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 1:41AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 7:55AM [Link] |
| FyreTV Deactivated User The Ultimate Adult Video Experience 54 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 3:27PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 4:54PM [Link] |
| FyreTV Deactivated User The Ultimate Adult Video Experience 54 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 5:25PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 5:36PM anyway i wasn't making any accusations it was weird to see and that's all [Link] |
| FyreTV Deactivated User The Ultimate Adult Video Experience 54 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 6:18PM Did I have more time to play on my NES as a kid than I do now because I didn't have a full time job? Sure. But do I own more games for my PS3 now because I have a job and don't have to wait until my birthday or Xmas to have mommy and daddy buy me one? Oh yeah. [Link] |
| Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 10:14PM [Link] |
| Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 10:20PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 30 2011 : 2:58AM what you said could be true for Starmat which is a distributor and owns some labels including Showtime, FM and maybe epmhard , they moved from Rome to Milan and might have that kind of problem [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 5:36PM [Link] |
| Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 11:41PM What you have had in Europe for some time is a socialist, entitlement society that hands out benefits to the people without having the revenue coming in to sustain this. Eventually this will implode and there will be chaos. People want their handouts and when they do not get them they eventually will riot and the country will become unstable. The business environment in Italy is not friendly, so companies leave or close shop. It is rather pathetic that adult companies can no longer sustain their costs in a country such as Italy. The situation in Italy parallels what we have in the USA today with a debt that is so ridiculous and grows to no end and no one but the Tea Party in the USA are trying to deal with it, refusing to raise the debt limit. How ironic that the people that want to stop raising the debt in the USA are the same people being vilified by our despicable media outlets. What the people do not realize is this will eventually deteriorate because no one in power will address this and choose to punt the ball, ignore it, as they have done continually. If you look at the adult industry in Italy in a broader sense, directly related to the country's financial hole, it makes sense. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 17 2011 : 3:25AM Part of the crisis is due to competition with China especially on the Textile market , a worker in Italy costs much more than in China where actually they are almost what we would called more or less slaves. The Textile industry is one of the most important in Italy and it is one of the examples , and i didn't even mentioned the owerwhelming effect of false clothes and bags signed "Gucci" or "Fendi" or "Armani" or even "Prada" The good point though is that whereas an American spend almost all of what he earns sometimes making debts buying with his Credit Card , an Italian saves usually around 30% of his incomes , and invests it , so 75% of the Italians are owners of their house and have not to pay any rent (there might be a mortgage though) and at least 65% of Italian debt is actually owned by the Italian themselves , a situation very different than that of Greece for example which debt was mainly owned by foreign banks and companies Car Industry is doing well Fiat had even the means to buy part of Chrysler [Link] |
| Digmen1 Member 629 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Aug 20 2011 : 3:34AM So its on the rich and the workers that pay tax in Italy. How big is the black market in Italy. And I think that those Gucci companies turn a blind eye when Chinese factories make their stuff on night shifts and sell it as counterfeits. They are genuine. And Italian car workers are on very high hourly rates, this cannot go on in Italy or anywhere else in the west. [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 10 2011 : 5:17PM But it has nothing to do with economy or politics or what else. Italian pornstars do 2, 3 movies in a year, and they think they are "the best pornstar of europe" and their movies are the best. Their movies (our movies!) suck. Theres no gonzo: there is always a thriller story or useless and nonsense friendship/love/adultery stories. It makes the movie last 3hours, and the actual fucking 20minutes. After 2 or 3 years pornstars already retire. And......ummm.... italian pornstars are.....four or five ladies?! Thats all. Btw, US productions are now trying to catch the good things: Roberta Gemma (ex Missoni), Evita Pozzi, and, in the near future, Vittoria Risi for Brazzers!! We've been waiting so long for such a moment Uh and... Pink'O didnt cease. They are trying to launch a new girl, Violetta Scott, born in 1991. We'll see. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 10 2011 : 6:15PM I don't know what do you mean for porno either , that of Brazzers? Gonzo? Featured? Did you heard about the interview of Bandinelli? He said that right now in Italy you can't afford to spend more than € 5,000 to produce a movie (around $ 6,500 to 7,000) no surprise they only can provide lame plots. A store owner told me that if a movies makes 15 rentals in 3 month is a success if the movie makes less he sells it or even gives it as a bonus to his best customers. That is because he needs room on his shelfs for new material, nobody wants the classics anymore , anything older than a couple weeks is dead. CentoXCento dropped its prices from € 25 for a DVD to 14.90 this means 40% off its original and well established price. [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 10 2011 : 6:35PM I didnt hear Bandinelli but dont really care about him, hes just doing that crappy movies like all the other directors... He shot many movies in Hungary or Czech, so.... And in my opinion, that 40%-off by 10 hex 100 is still a price too high for that shit made of fat or old or ugly amateur women (women?!) Cmon, lets just say it, italian porn is dead or its just in a decades-old coma, we have to start back from Ø, until we dont accept it, we cant do anything good. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 10 2011 : 6:51PM you miss the point , nobody is buying what they produce , also rentals are very few , you might not like 10 hex 100 "crap" but it is a niche market with a strong base , I don't like them either , for many reason but as a matter of fact they discovered both Roberta Gemma and Michelle Ferrari. and are among those who rent more than 15 times over three months the companies who went out of business this year are Pink'o, Moonlight and even Topline. Moonlight was distributor of Vivid , Viv Thomas and many others You might not like them but I can't say their material was crap [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 3:31AM This is part of the old way of thinking porn.... The time of secret night escapes to buy a porn-magazine is over! Im deeply convinced that we have to put up a real internet porn company like Brazzers. But producers prefer "quality" to "quantity", they say. Nobody can really see quality, though The problem is that there is no "porn culture" in Italy. [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 3:41AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 4:57AM I don't think all the customers became so suddenly internet fans to the point to crush all the three major companies in Italy in a row in less than THREE months. also I'm an interr since 1993 , but can't watch my movies on my computers , I watch them on my TV that is why i still prefer a physical support to use , not to mention that I change HDD and stuff every now and then but a DVD still stay as it was , no virus can force me to delete them. Again there are sites which sell their DVD to own by downloading them but you NEED a code to watch them , it is a lifetime code , but still you can't remove them from your computer , even with a 500 GB HDD you can't store many DVD9 on them unless you give up any other use of your PC. Also their use has limited machines , you cant put them on any PC you want , you can't store them on an external HDD I know that is not always the case , but still this one is already in use [Link] |
| Xanderian Member 404 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 5:05AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 5:57AM There's also a problem in Italy that Spain apparently doesn't have it is called Monopoly there's a private company , or better a state company which was sold at 60% to some privates which owns all the phone lines and has no interest at all in improving them you can't go anywhere else , all company in Italy have to pay them for lines use or cable the entire country with their own lines , obviously they don't. There is an optical fiber company with a 100MB speed called fastweb but the most part of ADSL lines are a virtual 7 MB I said virtual because no minimum speed guarantee exists so they divide their bandwith with many users , if few of them are online there's no problems but if they are a lot it could be slower than a diial up line , also wireless contracts are virtually unlimited but if you download more than 3 GB per month they cut your band to almost zero "to prevent piracy" they say , too bad that even legitimate users on paid sites can't use these lines I have a business line , I pay more than others but it is a steady 12 MB , I had zero problems with my line and company so far, I could get more , but I don't really need it I already pay €29.90 per month for it I mean with these lines it is unlikely that a pornsite could work, also do not forget the Vatican which is very powerful in Italy Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/11/2011 6:00:16 AM [Link] |
| cavarra Member 758 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 6:10AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 6:25AM what did they produce from march? Pink'O is dead , I believe Starmat (or maybe Red Hot which is Rocco new distributor in Italy) bought its material and brand , but no company could be alive producing NOTHING for 9 months all was issued between january and march was actually produced and filmed earlier [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 7:06AM As I already said... [Link] |
| cavarra Member 758 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 7:08AM you can easily find reliable sources on the web for these productions, and on the other hand I cannot find any source about a Pink'o "dead" except this thread. Edited by - cavarra on 9/11/2011 7:11:05 AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 8:10AM A little research showed that Pink'o enterprise Inc is now owned by Sins Factory , which a strong producer and distributor in Italy on Pink'o site updated on september 8 there's no mention of any production nor movie with the actresses you said. though they might have signed with Sins Factory. Pink'o apparently announced they want to distribute a lot parodies and as I saw they're almost all of Vivid which confirms the bad moment of Moonlight. Sins Factory also owns ATV and have now signed with 10 hex 100 to distribute online their content VOD , apparently all material of Pink'o is available on demand , but it was as such even before. Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/11/2011 8:29:43 AM [Link] |
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| evers Deactivated User 231 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 9:13AM With all those babes, great weather, and awesome pizza? Amazing. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 9:25AM a trapper on the rocky mountains? [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 10:17AM And thats the reason why we buy your porn and ours doesnt exist ;) [Link] |
| cavarra Member 758 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 1:15PM for example if you search "Nadia Macrì Pink'o" on Google you will find [ invalid url ]... Edited by - cavarra on 9/11/2011 1:17:03 PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 1:30PM if their updates are shit is not my fault I find weird to say the least that I have to use google to find news about a site than through the site himsels , I mean when I want some clean underwear I wouldn't call a policeman to investigate and seek, I should know myself. Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/11/2011 1:31:30 PM [Link] |
| evers Deactivated User 231 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 3:42PM [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 3:47PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 4:15PM Fine but I'm asking , why I have to pay the same movie at an Highest price rather than picking it up directly from Evil Angel USA? I mean they surely charge their fee plus the cost of their servers plus the cost of some credit cards operator , plus VAT (21% apparently). If a movie costs say an average of $ 24 that way will cost at least 30 . Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/11/2011 4:17:14 PM [Link] |
| franco Deactivated User 766 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 4:45PM second, the alot of the stars are not even italian girls. [Link] |
| evers Deactivated User 231 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 4:50PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 4:54PM [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 11 2011 : 5:54PM [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Sep 13 2011 : 3:32PM Or at least thats what she knows, or has been told to say. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Sep 13 2011 : 3:54PM [Link] |
| jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 13 2011 : 4:58PM [Link] |
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