Tired of Anal Bargaining Chip

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kiggo Member 130 Posts 7/06	Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 12:34PM I must admit it gets so old all of the "will she do anal?" especially of a new girl. Girls if you are going to be a pornstar then be a pornstar which includes ANAL! Let us speak now of GREAT pornstars that DO anal and do not keep us waiting to see it!! =) [Link]
zorge Member 278 Posts 8/06	Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 12:38PM You could stretch this into a manifesto! Like the communist manifesto, that'll rally a movement. But then the porn world will be divided in a cold war between Analists and Vaginalists. And just imagine the embargoes. [Link]
Rumpled Foreskin Member 310 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 12:45PM I don't agree. Female talent can set whatever boundaries they want. If a producer accepts her limitations, she lands a gig. If he doesn't, she's out of work. A simple Management/worker relationship. As to using anal (will she? If so, when?) as a bargaining chip, why not? How many bargaining chips does talent have to begin with? Also, is it really so far-fetched to think that a young woman in the business might "loosen up" after getting her, er...feet wet? [Link]
kiggo Member 130 Posts 7/06	Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 12:50PM I guess I meant more of the girls that WOULD do anal when they first start but their management or whatever tell them to wait to build anticipation. To be honest by the time these girls FINALLY do anal I have lost interest in them. [Link]
Rumpled Foreskin Member 310 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 3:09PM You know, it's weird. I bought Amateur Angels (Um, 12?) because the AVN reviewer said "Ha!" when he reported Kinzee Kenner and Lucy Lee saying "No, we'll never do anal." And I believe the two may have been 100% honest -- at the time. I'm 54 y/o and I've talked to enough women, not just my generation but younger, who say that they just can't do the things their boyfriends want them to. More than one young lady of my acquaintance said "Porn style" -- the violent ramming of a huge cock (or two) while maintaining a look of total ecstasy. I seem to remember that Aurora Snow made a big deal out of getting a producer to arrange "therapy" so that she could enjoy anal poundings -- and thus, A Star Was Born... Was she really anally shy when she first showed up? Probably. Did she see the business possibilities of expanding her services? Yep, I'd bet on it. Did she really see any kind of psychic anal Svengali? Only in her dreams... [Link]

sharde Member 204 Posts 3/05	Posted - Aug 28 2007 : 11:13PM I completely agree with Kiggo here... If they are pornstars, then they are "PORN" stars... Not some frigid prude... The whole point of porn is about fantasy... Watching the sweet girl next door type, go ALL the way... The stuff a male's fantasy is made of... Not the kinds of things (or much less than) any chick on this earth do everyday... Hell, most average college chicks do more than these frigid pornstars... I guess it all comes down to money though... [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 1:56AM I don't see any reason why they should have to do things they aren't comfortable. I'd prefer to see a scene where the cast members are fully into the scene and enjoying themselves than one where the woman looks uncomfortable because she is taking it anally, which she didn't want to do. Heat and chemistry are the most important, not which sex acts are performed. [Link]
Roger Rabbit Member 49 Posts 7/07	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 4:30AM It's too bad the bargaining chip is anal and not is the story good or how well does the director/editor build an exciting movie. Problem seems to be the actors are too eager for the next pay check. Instead of the next great part. Naive, I know. And frankly, anal is a piece of cake if done correctly. Extreme anal is another matter. I don't see how any of the women or men take the pounding they give their bodies. I know I would be sore for days. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 8:00AM kiggo wrote: I must admit it gets so old all of the "will she do anal?" especially of a new girl. Girls if you are going to be a pornstar then be a pornstar which includes ANAL! Click to expand I disagree. I would phrase it as follows. Girls, if you're going to be a porn star, just do whatever you want and enjoy that. And just be honest about what you will and won't do. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. Anal is not a "challenge" to see where your limits are or to see if you can get four dicks in your ass simultaneously. Anal is for people who enjoy it. If you don't already have a thing for anal, just don't bother trying to come up with reasons to do it. See...once you do it, everybody is going to say "Oh, so and so LOVES anal! Did you see her in ----?" Edited by - randomprecision on 8/29/2007 8:01:14 AM [Link]
BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 9:00AM I could care less whether girls ever do anal [Link]
ToneBone Member 176 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 10:26AM Flash wrote: I'd prefer to see a scene where the cast members are fully into the scene and enjoying themselves than one where the woman looks uncomfortable because she is taking it anally, which she didn't want to do. Heat and chemistry are the most important, not which sex acts are performed. Click to expand +1 I personally never understood some people's obsession with anal. Nothing is worse than watching a scene where they start the mandatory Anal and all the sudden it turns into a balancing act. The girl looks like she's getting a colonoscopy while the guy looks bored of having to fuck at 3 thrusts per minute. It sucks the energy right out of the scene. [Link]
Assanova Member balls deep 296 Posts 1/04	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 6:49PM I only watch anal porn because I love butts. I'm not even aware of the girls that don't, unless they have an exceptionally hot ass like Sunny Lane (but I still won't rent/buy their stuff). So I don't care if they do it or not since there are enough girls who do to keep me satisfied. It's not like we're hurting for hot girls in anal scenes. It's sad when the ship has sailed when some stars finally decide to take the plunge, like Lisa Ann, but it can be worth the wait if they time it right like Kinzie Kenner or Sativa Rose. Edited by - assanova on 8/29/2007 6:50:19 PM [Link]
Captain Cock Member NL 172 Posts 2/05	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 7:15PM I think any porn girl that can postpone anal for marketing benefits should do so. Means she probably has qualities beyond just being subject of certain sex-acts. I doubt a lot of girls can actually build the anticipation nowadays for a 'first anal on tape'. I think if a consumer wants to see a certain act, there are plenty of performers out there that get the instant gratification. [Link]
Hypermastia Deactivated User These R The Buttocks Of Ryan Star: No Butt Can Compare 248 Posts 6/07	Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 9:35PM I'm always impressed when an all natural Super(oYo)Busty Star, like Bailey, lets the world see them ButtFucked [Link]
ZeroCool007 Senior Member I'm going to stab you in the throat with a spork!!! 1048 Posts 12/06	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 12:53AM On the one hand, if a chick doesn't want to take it in the ass, than whatever...on the other hand, there are some starlets who I'm a big fan of that I would love to see get anally pounded, August being one of them... [Link]

Doomed Odysseus Member 39 Posts 6/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 7:50AM I might suggest that some of you guys go down to the Farmers Market, pick up a few 12" cucumbers and shove them hard up your ass several times a week and then you might be struck with divine awareness of why some girls might be hesitant. [Link]
Doomed Odysseus Member 39 Posts 6/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 7:51AM ... or realize an exciting future in strap-on or gay porn! [Link]
musiqman Member You Big Dummy 293 Posts 7/06	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 12:08PM @RandomPrecision, Well put Music the true universal language Edited by - hardware on 8/30/2007 1:55:16 PM [Link]
ragingbull Deactivated User 404 Posts 5/07	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 2:44AM i don't understand the obsession with anal, i love bjs, mostly what I whack to [Link]
junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 2:02PM Kiggo writes "Girls if you are going to be a pornstar then be a pornstar which includes ANAL!" I disgree. Wayne In Dallas [Link]
Baggio Member 451 Posts 7/04	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 3:35PM anal in overrated. Its not special anymore. [Link]
CL Member 108 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 6:16PM The girls in porn that don't do anal are such prudes! There only hurting there own sales. "Yeah well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man" [Link]
sharde Member 204 Posts 3/05	Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 11:14PM ragingbull wrote: i don't understand the obsession with anal, i love bjs, mostly what I whack to Click to expand And I get nothing out of watching BJ's... Completely pointless teenager act... I skip right past them in scenes... [Link]
horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04	Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 11:33PM I think it's important for the girls to protect themselves and earn as much as they can. The problem is with the producers not paying top dollar for anal like Pierre Woodman in Europe or Steve Hirsch at Vivid. These guys roll out the bucks and attract first anals from beautiful girls. Disagree ? Just explain to me Ed Powers then please. This man is horrible to look at but in the 90's, when he was into anal scenes, he got a lot of first anals because he paid well. The girls are taking advantage of the supply and demand cycle in porn. I agree though, as a pornstar you should realize that anal is the biggest selling sex act in adult and consumers like to see it. You should also protect yourself and not become a $800 anal girl because these producers will use you and make a killing of you. The Dog [Link]
Christopher256 Member 146 Posts 8/05	Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 2:06PM Well I think if a star is to do anal than start it early. It's really not worth building the anticipation because by the time they do it the anal sex fans, I'm one of them, will just be watching the many girls they know take it in the ass so well. It might give the star a minor jump in stature, but it won't rejuvinate a sagging career. Be known for anal or don't, that's probably the best way to go. [Link]

Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 7:51PM Gina Ryder took forever to start doing anal. That didn't stop me from grabbing up everything she did at that point. Of course, it helped that she was obviously having a good time doing it. [Link]
Guam Member 613 Posts 2/07	Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 3:35PM I like Sarah Silverman's line about losing her virginity at 27.. ....but she lost her vaginal virginity at 19. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 6:28PM It seems to me that girls in porn only really have 3 "bargaining chips" to help them make money: 1) Their looks 2) Their age 3) Their willingness to do certain sex acts and, if so, at what price So I'm really confused by this thread. Unless the girls are complete morons, why WOULDN'T they use any and all of these bargaining chips, including anal, to get what they want out of the porn producers? Their bodies are their meal tickets, if they don't bargain with them, then they aren't gonna last very long or make much money. Maybe I'm just a bit too pragmatic about the skin trade. But if I wanted to get as much money as I could out of the consumers as a whole, and if I controlled the product, good old supply rationing seems like the most effective way to ensure I inflate my value and get what I want. Personally, the girls who go "all in" and do anal and circus acts from the get-go are typically the ones that just don't last that long in this industry. For some of them, that's all they want....fast money, get in, get out, get on with their lives. More power to them with the "all-in" strategy as that works. But if they want longevity and the chance of a mini-careeer (how ever short lived it may be), pacing is where it's at. Business school economics at it's simplest if you ask me. [Link]