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Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 22 2003 : 3:10AM
Just a quick note to let everyone know I haven't forgotten
about ya!

Obviously a lot has been going on these past
few months. I've been kinda laying low trying to figure out
what to do with my life.

As most of you know, I'm in the process of setting up my new company EVOLUTION EROTICA. (and no, Tricia it's not a Rob
Black front) Rob and I are still friends. Actually he's
helping me a lot getting started. Despite what everyone seems to think, he has a really good heart,and understands
why I need to make this change.

I'm sure everyone has a lot of questions, so feel free to
post whatever comments, questions, etc. on this forum
and I'll try to respond in a timely fashion. Please be
patient if I can't get back to you right away. I've been
busier than I've ever been in my life, what with hiring
salespeople, setting up my new offices, not to mention
shooting and editing and helping my new directors along.

Rest assured, I've learned a LOT these last few years and
will do everything in my power to make EVOLUTION EROTICA
something I can be proud of and everyone can JERK OFF too!!!

With Love and Respect,
Tom Byron

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 22 2003 : 3:23AM
Can somebody tell me how to change the "Extreme Associates"
under my name to "Evolution Erotica"? Been a while since I posted last and I seem to have forgotten..
Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - May 22 2003 : 4:31AM
Howdy Tom, welcome back! Its nice to see your still alive and kicking and haven't forgotten about us porn freaks here at ADT. I also want to say congrats with your new company and I sincerely wish you all the very best with your future nasty endeavors!

As for changing your member status here, you may want to contact either Steph or Drew as they are the administrators of the forum and I'm sure they can get you back on track again.


"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" - Aleister Crowley 1875-1947

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 22 2003 : 6:55AM
Does that mean you won't attack Stagliano anymore? ;-)
Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - May 22 2003 : 11:16AM
It's good to hear that Rob Black is a true friend to you but please bear in mind, as you pursue your own company, that we consumers are looking for quality and service, and that you can never rest on your laurels. I mention this because, from the outside looking in at the implosion of Extreme Associates, Rob doesn't appear to be the best choice for a business adviser.

Those of us who were around for the early Cumback Pussy and Whack Attack series know what you are capable of, so we're willing to give you a chance but frankly, after your inability to deliver on promises you made here while at Extreme, I don't think you have much room for mistakes.

Now that I've ragged on you, let me assure you that I truly wish you success, and hope, no, expect to see the kind of product that deserves to be ranked with Evil Angel and the like.

 
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 22 2003 : 8:50PM
Welcome back Tom. It must be raining in L.A. again, huh?
rogrtipe
RogReviews.com

1103 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 22 2003 : 9:01PM
Hey Tom....

Good to see you back.

Drop me a line, let's talk.

Rog

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - May 22 2003 : 9:05PM

Tommy, man, wow, great to have ya back, can't wait to see the fucking you've got planned with EVOLUTION EROTICA.

Been a fan since Whack Attack's, and Lord of Asses, as well as Cumback Pussy's, some of those images are forever burned into my porn filled mind.

Great to see you around, but gotta admit, I was getting a little worried.


”Time and money, two things I have so little of.
But if I had both, I’d be bored and rich.”
–BIGmike.

tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - May 23 2003 : 1:49AM
Hi Tom.

I can sincerely say that no one hopes more than me that this is for real.
I've always thought you were a good guy, and I wish the best for you.

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 3:18AM
RAMSEY!! My biggest fan!!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't recall ever "attacking"
Mr. Stagliano - Never had anything but the utmost respect
for the man and what he's accomplished. You must have me
confused with someone else. *cough*ROB*cough

My offer still stands about that beer next time I'm in
Holland. Maybe we can cruise for trannies together!

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 4:25AM
Rob will not be a "business advisor" He's simply helping me along with the transition. I will be seeking advice from a
LOT of people,including members of this forum!
I don't think I totally failed. I got them to change from
DVD-5 to DVD-9. Most of the ones I checked, including some
mentioned by M.B. and others looked fine to me. There's
always a possibility of someone getting a pirated disc
or playing them on a subpar player. I know it sounds like
I'm making excuses, but given everything that's happened at
Extreme these past few months, I truly did my best.

HOWEVER, I will be retaining ALL my titles made during my
tenure at Extreme,(Whack Attacks,Planet of the Gapes, Lord of Asses,etc.) REMASTERING and REPACKAGING them and
releasing them under the Evolution banner, along with a BONUS DVD! Anyone who has a subpar copy of any of these titles, simply send them to my new office (address to be provided soon) and you will recieve a new copy FREE OF CHARGE!

Thanks. You won't be disappointed. You have my word!

Edited by - Tom Byron on 5/23/2003 4:29:08 AM

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 4:40AM
Thanks, Trish!
I'll be contacting you soon regarding Brazilian distribution. Hope you're interested!
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 6:42AM
After all these years we meet again ;-)
But he was your partner at that time and you should have told him he should keep his big mouth shut because he was flaming Stagliano for doing a she-male while his partner did the same thing. Doesn't matter now because it's all in the past.
Only if we can find the ones that look like Danyelle Evangelista ;-)

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 6:44AM
When is somebody gonna help Rob with his DVD department? I'm waiting for three months to receive some Extreme titles I ordered at Laseredge.
douglasb
Member

The Ether
22 Posts
8/00
Posted - May 23 2003 : 8:33AM
Let us know what has been going on. The 'demise' of EA wasn't reported objectively - almost everyone on this board seemed happy to hear about the bust. (As if EA were really the bad guys dragging the otherwise blemish-free industry into the gutter.)

A brief summary of the situation would be extremely appreciated - by me at least.

 
rogrtipe
RogReviews.com

1103 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 23 2003 : 1:08PM
I'm sure he will give it, but right now, Interview #4 with TB is penciled in for the second week in June. I'll fast track it (Yeah I know, I'm still doing Vegas interviews- Jewel De'Nyle and Jules Jordan this week) but it will be up quickly. I'll ask him everything.....

Rog

Darth-Morpheous
Deactivated User

1701 Posts
3/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 1:29PM
I can't wait for that interview Rog! Tommy, WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait for your new company! Im even happier to know that you will be releasing your series with EA with your new company. Im sure your new material will be top notch. The Icon is back, and not with that failed studio anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darth-Morpheous
adultdetective.com

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 3:47PM
Au contraire,dear Ramsey- I DID tell him! From my first
Rog interview dated May 2000:

"Rob was shooting his mouth off about Stagliano which I didn't agree with. I told Rob that it's one thing to go after Vivid or Russ or Patrick because there is actually a good fight there and it's part of doing business. You don't need to shoot at some guy who made a mistake. He knows he made a mistake and he doesn't need to be blasted for it. It was a cheap shot and I told Rob that. I told him that it might come back to bite him on the ass and sure enough, it did. It shut him up though!"

So there! NYAH NYAH NYAH!!!

P.S. Who's Danyel Evangelista?

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 3:59PM
Never heard of Laseredge. Perhaps your beef should be with them.
Why don't you cancel your order with them and order directly from Extreme's website?

Just a suggestion...

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 4:49PM
I'm glad to hear that you are retaining your titles. I'm looking forward to expanding my DVD collection of your works, past and future.

I know that you have the talent as a director to capture product worthy of the top rung, but you need people with similar talent and commitment, like Tricia, to make that product into truly great DVD's. Here's hoping you find them.

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - May 23 2003 : 4:52PM
Hardware : I'm glad to hear that you are retaining your titles. I'm looking forward to expanding my DVD collection of your works, past and future.

So am I, that's great to hear, because now I can fill in some gaps in my Tom Byron collection.


”Time and money, two things I have so little of.
But if I had both, I’d be bored and rich.”
–BIGmike.

cubesnake
Senior Member

3858 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 5:04PM
Hi Tom,
If i may :) Left corner 1 right corner 2

Cube

Edited by - cubesnake on 5/23/2003 5:05:29 PM

Janitor
Retired

Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service.
6409 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 23 2003 : 5:07PM
The Lasers Edge is one of the many stores who make this site possible. They are reliable and honest with their customers.
Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - May 23 2003 : 5:42PM
Tom, I think its absolutely wonderful you will be re-releasing your old EA work thru your new company! I already have the entire Whack Attack and Lord of Asses series, but now I'm gonna have to buy them all over again cuz I'm such a perfectionist. Damn this porn addiction...hehe

"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" - Aleister Crowley 1875-1947

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 7:07PM
Sorry, Steph I didn't mean to imply otherwise, I just didn't know who they were.
But I still don't know why Ramsey didn't get his titles.
He didn't say what they were. Are the titles available yet?
Was Extreme out of stock?
Anyway, that is now Extreme's responsibility. If I could get some more info, (Ramsey?) I'll pass it on to Rob.

You won't have any such problems with Evolution,I promise!

 
Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 7:19PM
One more thing, Steph...

I would interested in setting up one of them there Live Chats.
Lemme know...

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 7:31PM
The hottest she-male on this earth ;-)
Because the titles are more expensive on the Extreme website, a lot more expensive!
The titles are Extreme Gang Bang 666 and Great American Ass. Laseredge can't get these movies in stock from Extreme. I ordered them on 2/18/2003.

Anyway, I'm glad you agree that Black was wrong for attacking Stagliano, Stagliano is my hero and I don't like it when people attack him but I guess you already know that ;-)

Good luck with Evolution.

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 23 2003 : 8:10PM
O.K Ramsey

I actually did a little research for ya. Just got off
the phone with the guy at Laser's Edge. His # is 1(800)344-0307. The E-mail addy is sales@lasersedge.com

He does not deal with Extreme directly. He gets his product
from one of Extreme's distributors. He does not know why you didn't get your movies.

I called Rob and he said he had plenty of the titles you mentioned in the warehouse.

So Rob and Extreme have no culpability here. Contact Laser's Edge and ask them wassup!

This is now my last official act on behalf of Extreme Associates.

Met G.
Member

England
275 Posts
2/03
Posted - May 23 2003 : 11:16PM
Hallo Tom,

Greetings from London!

As mentioned in my posting of the 8th May on page 7 of the "Daniella Rush Accident" topic by 'Gabriel Nine' where I e-mailed Chris Alexander at Anabolic (unfortunately the e-mail never got through), I once met you when you and Chris popped into a Video Shop in Walkers Court, Soho a few years ago. You were on your way back home from Cannes. Chris was carrying a video camera. You had your short haircut which was a surprise, as you had it quite long at one time!

I asked you about Angelica Bella and Erika Bella etc. Chris signed a "Buttman" Poster up on the wall. The owner of the shop at first thought Chris was "Buttman" as he heard you both talking about the movie actresses you had recognised on the video covers. There were no DVDs at that time, so it must be about 5 years ago ? I forget how long DVDs have been out now!

Good luck with your new venture.

All best wishes from the UK.
Met.


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Edited by - Met G. on 5/23/2003 11:17:32 PM

Maximum Booty
Member

New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 2:33AM
All I know is it will be nice to be able to buy Tom Byron directed porn again. No offense but Extreme DVDs sucked. I hope all goes well.

Max Booty
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 2:49AM
Dude, I totally remember! Chris and I were bopping around
Soho getting wraparound footage for World Sex Tour.(9?)
I'd had a few pints, so I was having a good ol' time!
Vince Vouyer and Marc Davis were crashed out at the hotel.
(fuckin' burnouts!) I fuckin' LOVE London!!


Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 4:46AM
Thanks for your help Tom. I e-mailed Laseredge to see what's going on.

Btw, I hope I can buy some movies from your new company Evolution Erotica but only if you promise me not to use Mark Davis and/or Dale Dabone in every movie ;-)

I think you should use some more black guys in your movies.

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 6:13AM
I think I only used Dale a coupla times. You probably have a point with Mark, but he's so fuckin' dependable!
I definitely want to use Nacho. I'd love to use Tony Ribas,
Eric Everhard and Lex, but Dion's got 'em locked up!
Love to use Michael Stefano, Brandon Irons and this new
guy Manuel, but they're doing their own thing as well!

I'm totally open to suggestions, from you or anyone else!

Agreed, but again, besides Lex, who do you suggest? I hear
good things about Justin Slayer and Mandingo, are they
available? Shit, I'll let the members of this forum cast
all my movies! Make my job that much easier!
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 8:11AM
There are plenty of black guys out there you can use Tom instead of the all the overused guys you mentioned like Manuel, Erik and Lex. I'm talking about guys like Mandingo, Justin Slayer, Wesley Pipes, Sledge Hammer, Bam aka Mr.Bigg, John E., Brian Pumper, Devlin Weed, Darren James, Mark Anthony, Jasper Wade or Johnny Depth for example. Jack Napier also but I think he has a contract at WCP.
rogrtipe
RogReviews.com

1103 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 24 2003 : 3:10PM
Many of those guys are locked up too. Dingo, Slayer, Pumper etc are doing their own thing. Pipes is horrible, Weed is weak, Jack is locked up. Dareen is good, but how long will it be before someone locks him up.

This new trend of locking up male talent is interesting. Dion has a really good thing going.

And Tom, Jewel said that Brandon, Steve Holmes, Manuel etc are free to perform in other movies. They just direct exclusively for Platinum X.

We really do need some new blood on the male side of things.

Rog

 
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 24 2003 : 3:26PM
BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - May 24 2003 : 3:40PM
Tom, please don't ever use the motormouth Wesley Pipes, he turns a scene sour faster than a silent but deadly...

I can't watch that yackity yack yack he does, I put the scene on mute and hope the girl had nothing to say.


”Time and money, two things I have so little of.
But if I had both, I’d be bored and rich.”
–BIGmike.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 3:49PM
Hear. Hear.

malkira
Member

323 Posts
6/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 6:19PM
Tom - Welcome back, bro! Best of luck with everything. Looking forward to seeing you back in action.
Maximum Booty
Member

New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 7:54PM
if companies keep locking up male talent to exculsive contracts then porn producers will have little choice but to start bringin in new guys...which I think is a good thing.

Max Booty
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 8:13PM
rogrtipe
RogReviews.com

1103 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 24 2003 : 8:44PM
He is not exclusive, but he's got his own deal and works so much for them that he's not exactly a free agent. Lex and Erik weren't exclusive with Anabolic before, but you saw how rarely they worked outside of the circle.

Rog

SueR
Member

Under a hill of books
262 Posts
12/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 9:24PM
Tommy can ya hear me?!

You're still going to perform right? You're not gonna pull a Vince Vouyer, right?

Would you be willing to hire guys who meet your requirements and who've worked in all-male porn?

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - May 24 2003 : 9:33PM
Geez, that sucked, my last post vanished.

Oh well, but I guess I will repeat what I typed, though not word for word...

I would like to throw my hat in the ring for your "stud" search, though I hate the term "stud". I'm better looking than some of the scumbags out there, but my opinion may vary.

I am not in peak physical shape, but I am getting there, and I think I have a healthy sexual appetite, you can ask my hand. Some "shortcomings" may come in that I am average size, not large or above average, but certainly not small, and not a rubber dick either. (Don't let the B-I-G fool you)

But as I am relocating to another state, it would be impossible for me to do this now... if your search is still on in a few months, I'd like to give it a shot.

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 24 2003 : 10:00PM
I'm thinking about a POSSIBLE limited comeback. Gotta get back in shape,though. I am considering doing a POV line.
That way I can shoot around the ol' spare tire! And I've
never pulled Vince Vouyer. The rumors are completely false.
Vince's relationship with me is absolutely platonic.(I just hope Ramsey doesn't have pictures!!!)
As long as they're HIV negative, willing to work without a
condom, and the girl approves , I don't see why not. Never
understood the "straight" industry's problem with crossing
over. Ignorance and Homophobia run rampant.

Chgo Blk Guy
New Member

The City of Chicago
1 Posts
5/03
Posted - May 25 2003 : 4:10AM
Hello all, new member here.

Hi Tommy,
Long time fan from Chicago. Good luck on the new company. I missed the high quality and leader of pack videos you used to produce and direct. I look forward to not only your videos. I am also curious about what new directors you will marshal in for us. BTW about the more black talent topic. Justin Slayer could be the next Top Dog male talent in two years if he gets the right breaks. Mandingo is slowing coming into he own as a performer.
Pipes does talk a lot of trash. However a couple points need to be said. I think some of white female America customers fantasize about thug trash talkin' brothas like Pipes. I know most of the serious Raincoaters don't like him. That's too bad. Because hey guys. It seems a lot of those females. He works with, sure do respond to him. Hey anything for a hot scene. Bottom-line that works for me. The second BTW, If any black male talents isn't all that is Brian Plumper. Talk about no impressed with his performances at all. I still can't understand how are why he got his own series. I can think of so many other directions to go in if it were my money.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 25 2003 : 7:06AM
I wouldn't do that Tom, you know what they say: It's better to burn out than to fade away.

We had some fights in the past but I still consider you a true legend Tom, you were in the first pornmovie move I saw back in 1987, I was only 12 then and the movie was called 'Untamed Passion'.

Not this time ;-)

Hey Tom, can you give Vince Voyeur some lessons how to work the camera because the guy can never get the right angle.

Is this the reason why guys like Peter North, Julian and Jay Ashley deny they ever did gay porn?

Maximum Booty
Member

New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 25 2003 : 11:12AM
isn't that the silliest thing? How can a person deny something when someone can pop out a videotape with that perfomer going to town with another dude? So unless these guys have twin doubles working in gay porn just embrace your past and people will stop talking about it.

Tom....when was the last time you shot new stuff? And please take the time to get some stuff on camera with Anna Belle.

Max Booty
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Met G.
Member

England
275 Posts
2/03
Posted - May 25 2003 : 2:40PM
Thanks for your reply, Tom.

I've printed it off and will show it to the then owner of that shop who will also be pleased to see that you remember him!

He has another place now around the corner and helped towards the Daniella Rush Fund.

Regards from London.

Best of Luck!
Met.

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 25 2003 : 7:32PM
No offense buddy, but WTF does that mean? Don't "burn out" and "fade away" basically have the same definition when used in this context?
WE never had any fights. In fact, I find it quite amusing
when someone makes disparaging remarks about me on the
internet having never met me in person. Everyone is entitled
to their opinion, but I never understood what problem you
had with me as a performer. Or Davis. You never gave a reason, that I can recall. You simply called us "Loser's".
Having a somewhat successful 21 year career in a biz most
men would chew off their own arm to participate in, I think
you would be hard pressed to find many who would agree with you on that point!

French guy
Member

335 Posts
9/01
Posted - May 25 2003 : 7:38PM
Amen Tommy.

After seeing you banging legends like Ginger Lynn or Traci Lords, I wish I lived a looser life like yours

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