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prophetman13
Member

289 Posts
8/07
Posted - Oct 2 2009 : 10:13PM
Ever see a movie with too many close-ups? If so, what was it?
groin-grabbingly
Member

555 Posts
2/09
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 2:47AM
oh sure. i hate this. it used to happen a lot in the early gonzo stuff. it still happens a lot in second-rate POV stuff. pretty much every scene in the POV Casting Couch series has this problem. so many close-ups that they just become abstract body parts, pistoning and pistoning
it takes a good POV director like Mike John to really showcase the female's whole body in action
fatalbert
Member

Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
576 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 12:56PM
Thanks, p-man (for giving me the opportunity for one of my periodic -- and useless, I admit -- rants).
Many on these boards post that they just love partial-body closeups, BJs filmed from two inches (so you can see maybe her upper lip and one nostril), and the like -- and God knows it must be pretty universal since porn from Day One has featured this prominently.
Well, lovers of the closeup are free to have that choice, but after you've seen one, you've seen them all IMO. I can't for the life of me understand how partial-body shots can compare to allowing us to see her pretty face too as the action proceeds. I swear, at least 95% of camera shots in porn have me climbing the wall in frustration at the sheer insanity of it.
Okay, another bout of Pissing into the Wind over with. It sure ain't gonna change anything.
But it does give OPs the chance to say "Hey, I love closeups!" [xx)]
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 1:58PM
Close-ups are definitely overdone!
Mixing-up the angles and distances is what is hot.
Give me a close-up of the initial penetration, then pull-back and show me the girl's entire body while they fuck. Close-up of some hot facial reactions -- and I don't mean the guy's -- then back to the girl's whole body (dare I wish for a second angle).
If you're a quality studio (one that own's more than one camera), you could also capture the girl's face during the initial penetration, and edit it together with the close-up of the actual penetration. Michael Ninn would know how to do this :)
In a BJ scene, mix-up some shots of the girl's body, as well as face-on-cock shots.
On a facial cumshot, show me the girl's entire face for crying-out-loud!
And, the stud's entire cock (I'm not gay, but...).
I hate -- hate -- seeing the tip of the stud's cock cumming on a part of the girl's face.
And, "Editing 101"...
Please stop crossfading into the cumshot already in progress, and out of the cumshot before the stud's finished ejaculating.
I never want to see the shot from behind the stud's balls looking up into the BJ ever again.
You've been warned
NerdGod
Member

Using a 2 inch cock like it was 12
480 Posts
7/06
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 2:08PM
sooooooo very fuckin true. the whole reason you buy a pov is for the female talent. twat shots are soooooo over done. I think the director lacks in talent if they allow soo many. i like brother loves pov. he balances it out nicely.
 
T0MBOne
Senior Member

1200 Posts
5/08
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 3:17PM
I see this as a problem in 90-95% of these gonzo productions so as a reviewer I knock a typical gonzo DVD's rating down more than a few notches. This gonzo crapp with overdoses of close-ups smothers the viewer. Anyway, that's why, in most cases, I review features and classic xxx. If yall enjoy being smothered with this stuff, that's fine---T0M
Comet Man
Member

Boston
96 Posts
4/01
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 5:52PM
Ditto...hate too many closeups. Some of the older stuff does this and I also mention this in my reviews when it's overdone.
I'd rather have nice angles that show off a girl's thighs/legs/butt/body.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

^Lucy Pinder
18631 Posts
4/08
Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 10:32PM
The worst active director for this is Robby D. You can watch some of those scenes in the Jack's... movies where you'd swear that they filmed two different scenes: one that is pure close-up - and I mean so close that the entire screen is taken up by just a pussy - and one that is from so far back that you can't even see genitals. And there's no moving from close to far or whatever. It's just super close for like 5 straight minutes, and then bang! super far for five straight minutes. Repeat.
Just terrible. Unwatchable as far as I'm concerned.
fatalbert
Member

Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
576 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 4 2009 : 1:08PM
TOMBOne & Comet Man (and all reviewers), I appreciate what you guys do, 'cause I'm too lazy to do it myself, so I'm not slamming you in any way, but I do get frustrated by the lack of camera-angle/distance comments in reviews.
Again, not picking on you two, but most reviews go on paragraph after paragraph describing every position and sex act, but if closeups are ever even mentioned, it's usually as a positive, such as "... great closeups of insertion," etc.
So, I'm not flaming any individual, but it seems that a disaffection for closeups puts me (us) in a tiny minority. They're too universal, from the Classic era forward.
ninja1
Senior Member

2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 4:27PM
The infuriating thing about closeups is all the stuff that's being ignored everytime they choose to bring the camera close. I like to see great sex positions, such as pretzel, or missionary when the girl has her legs way up, feet way up at the guy shoulders. BUT usually the cameraman LOVES to zoom in for closeup because these positions also reveals the pussy very clearly. Also, I like to see legs, especially the rear view when girls wear short skirts and high heels; usually you see this only at the start of the scene, before the sex starts and before the male partner shows up. BUT the cameraman LOVES to go for the upskirt shot or the booty closeup, totally ignoring the legs and feet and cutting then entirely out of the frame. Hey, it's hardcore porn; when the hardcore action gets going, there's plenty of naked booty to be seen. Why ruin the tease by prematurely fixating on the genitals. And the viewers who hate tease are just gonna FF through that part anyway, so you're just pissing off folks like me when you try to "enhance" the tease by overdone zooming and misplaced closeups.
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
Outlier Moderator

5990 Posts
8/09
Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 4:41PM
Can't be asked to name movies but all those crappy movies where you can't see legs in the air, the girls face, ass and natural body reactions in one shot at least once in the movie are a waste of time. For me this is what counts, it makes it more realistic, just cock and pussy taking up a 42 inch screen equals fast forward,,,,,,,,,,,pointless.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 8 2009 : 11:15PM
It's not that I hate close-ups. Or even frequent close-ups. It's when they do tired close-ups of genitals and hold it there for ten minutes. I could (maybe) deal with a close-up of a girl's face that lasted ten minutes because facial expressions change and can be so sexy to watch. A close-up of a dick going in and out of a pussy for ten minutes is gonna put me to sleep. Every stroke/thrust looks the same at that distance and it just screams "I don't know what else to show you so I'll just stick the camera down here and give you this".
I actually do like close-ups that are interesting (provided they're broken by medium and wide shots). Like having the camera slowly move over a woman's body at a close distance. That can be really nice. But they usually just move in close, point the camera at one thing and stay there forever.
Edited by - randomprecision on 10/8/2009 11:18:10 PM
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
Outlier Moderator

5990 Posts
8/09
Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 3:42PM
^Agree.
lack100
Deactivated User

139 Posts
8/09
Posted - Oct 9 2009 : 8:57PM
yeah i hate this..i like the full view i wish these producers stop that. A lot of times im lookin at a scene and im like damn cameria man move the hell back! i always have to fast forward becuase of this problem.
Edited by - lack100 on 10/9/2009 8:58:59 PM
fatalbert
Member

Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
576 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 10 2009 : 11:49AM
Now, RP, I'm the last person to presume on others' personal tastes, and I believe we all should be able to choose porn that suits them, but what you describe above is almost precisely what keeps me rolling my eyes and FFing like crazy until the camera finally settles on a full-body (her face and the "action") shot, hopefully for more than 3 seconds.
I am not saying that those who like closeups and pans are clueless assholes. I'm saying that, as a practical matter, there is no choice available for porn which doesn't prominently feature closeups (either the steady type you decry or alternating between genital shots and his or her face).
And when they do deign to give us full-body shots, the angles are so extreme (floor shots with the camera rotated 45° out of level, e.g.) that I can't make visual sense out of it, but that's a rant for another day.
I am reduced to choosing among POV BJ flicks, because they're the only genre on which I can rely to see her face and the action in the same shot most of the time.
Not much choice, really.



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