I'm not going to name any names, but i'm sure people must have noticed that there are far too many lazy male performers in porn. I mean come on, I've seen so many scenes in which the girls are practically begging the guys to fuck them harder, and for more enthusiasm. Ladies I'm right aren't I? In too many scenes the guy is just lying there and the girls are like "COME ON, FUCK ME!" Seriously i think these performers need pay deductions, if not notes of termination. I honestly believe i could fuck a hell of a lot faster, harder, and with much more feeling than a significant portion of the male "talent". Unfortunately I live in Canada and we don't have a porn industry here, at least not that i know of. We need more guys like Rocco, Erik Everhard, TT Boy, Manuel Ferrara, Nacho Vidale, Bobby Vitale, Brandon Iron, Dirty Harry, and the like. I can only think of about 11 or 12 guys in all of porn that actually fuck like they mean it, and considering how many guys are in porn -not much compared to the women obviously-, thats pretty pathetic. Edited by - naturally_perverted on Dec 3 2007
Albeit small, there is a porn industry in Montreal and Vancouver.
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Posted - Dec 3 2007 : 10:34AM
Wow, i honestly didn't know we had a porn industry here in Canada. I've never seen any of its porn, so yes, i guess it must be very small. I'm sure there are alot of people out there who's feelings are reflected in the comment i left initiating this thread. I welcome all feedback, if anyone disagrees please explain why, and if you agree...well of course i completely understand. I am espicially interested in what the female pornstars that post on this site have to say about my comment.
I have seen cases where female Stars bring in their husbands into the Business even though they are not proper performers at all. Results have been disasterous especially the husband of a Big BOOBED Vivid Girl whose so lazy he makes Mandingo look like Ferrara. We need to see proper performers on Camera not some glorified husbands who can't entertain for shit.
pornstars need to be fucked harder has even made the news article taken from here WASHINGTON, DC–Seeking to reverse a "decades-long trend toward shamefully inadequate underfucking in our nation's adult-entertainment industry," a coalition of U.S. porn stars gathered in the nation's capital Monday to voice their demand to be fucked harder. porn stars Jenna Jameson, co-chair of Porn Stars For Being Fucked Harder. "Uggh! Come on, give me that cock, jungle stud. Fuck me! Fuck me harder!" said Jenna Jameson, co-chair of Porn Stars For Being Fucked Harder and star of Wicked Pictures' Up And Cummers #10, #11, and #17. "Deeper! Deeper! Oh, fuck." The D.C. summit arrives on the heels of years of complaints from disgruntled female sex-industry workers, many of whom had repeatedly argued that, as cock-crazed nymphomaniacs who can never get enough, they weren't receiving the deep-dicking they needed. "Give it to me! Oh, God, give it to me harder," said PSFBFH spokeswoman Christy Canyon, bent over the press-conference podium. "I fucking need it so bad." Canyon's sentiments echoed those of many PSFBFH members, who are such nasty sluts that moderately hard fucking is not enough to satisfy their constant craving for hot fuck action. As living embodiments of unrealistic male fantasies, porn stars, experts say, possess extraordinarily high libidos that cannot be satisfied by anything less than full-throttle, no-holes-barred banging. For these women, being such fantasy objects comes at a price: the near-impossibility of attaining the level of full-on pussy pounding they desire, even when lustily worked over by one or more trained professionals. "The sexual frustration of many porn stars," said noted porn expert Bob Guccione Sr., "is further complicated by the fact that their desires often go beyond traditional vaginally penetrative sex to include a heartfelt need to be repeatedly pounded in the ass, as well." Tiffany Mynx, PSFBFH co-chair and America's Anal Princess, agreed. "Oooh, baby," read Mynx's testimony before Congress during recent hearings on substandard fucking within the U.S. porn industry. "I want you to slide that big, hungry dick of yours all the way up my tight asshole right now." According to congressional sources, meeting the porn stars' demands will not be easy. "Quite simply, no man alive could give it to these wet, horny bitches in the manner they require," said Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS). "They represent a fictional, media-created standard of sexual appetite that nobody, male or female, can possibly satiate." Despite such skepticism on Capitol Hill, the porn stars remain fully committed to their cause. "Fuck me!" said porn star Asia Carrera during a recent demonstration in downtown Washington. "Goddamn it, I said fuck me harder!"
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Posted - Dec 3 2007 : 7:01PM
There are several studios around 760 Younge St., Toronto.
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Posted - Dec 3 2007 : 11:19PM
Well yes, i'm sure that many average men will probably not be able to satisfy a porn actress. This being said, I'm not one of them. Honestly, if i got the chance to fuck beautiful nasty goddesses like annette schwarz, hillary scott, belladonna, tory lane, and the like...I would most definately go all out. I'm not sure why mandingo is so lazy, i mean it could be that he's intentionally holding back to keep from ripping his co-actors in half with his big dick, or he is just actually lazy. My dick isn't as big as mandingo's, and to be honest i don't know anyone who does have one his size, but i'm roughly 7 1/2 to 8 inches (sometimes i get harder than at other times) and i know how to use it. I can't fathom how a normal man could not go all out if he got the chance to fuck a beautiful porn actress, i mean that is like one of THE top things you wish you could do in life.
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Posted - Dec 3 2007 : 11:27PM
LOL! This article is hilarious! But yes, it's sad that these women aren't getting the fuckings they deserve. I mean give me a shot at Jenna Jameson or Tiffany Mynx, and God KNOWS i would wreck those girls. What straight man would not give it his all if he got the chance to fuck Jenna Jameson for gods sake?! I mean to be lazy when it comes to having sex with porn goddesses....you'd have to be on drugs or secretly gay! "The sexual frustration of many porn stars," said noted porn expert Bob Guccione Sr., "is further complicated by the fact that their desires often go beyond traditional vaginally penetrative sex to include a heartfelt need to be repeatedly pounded in the ass, as well." - Jesus Christ! What man WOULDN'T want to pound these women in their assholes to the point that their rectums bleed? Take a page out from Rocco's book, like when he fucked Jewel till she bled out her ass! I forget what movie that was from, but when i watched it i can't help but remember thinking to myself "Now THAT is how you fuck a pornstar!" These guys are supposed to be professionals, yet only a handful of them can actually fuck like real men. "Quite simply, no man alive could give it to these wet, horny bitches in the manner they require," said Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS). "They represent a fictional, media-created standard of sexual appetite that nobody, male or female, can possibly satiate." - Ohhhh! I beg to differ! I know for a fact there must be alot of big penised men out there who feel as I do, and would wreck these girls if ever given the chances. Edited by - naturally_perverted on 12/3/2007 11:31:49 PM Edited by - naturally_perverted on 12/3/2007 11:33:30 PM
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Thank you Sam and Brandon Iron for your posts. I have no intention of joining the Canadian porn industry, i mean yes it probably does have alot of beautiful women in it, but none of the ones I watch. All the pornstars i would like to fuck work either in the U.S. or Germany, some also in France. Also, my girlfriend keeps my quite satisfied for now; I just hope she doesn't get lazy. My point isn't just about having the chance to work in porn, it's about fucking these women the way they want to be fucked. If a girl wants it slow then fine give it to her slow and make love. However, if she wants it hard and fast, then for godsake, for the reputation of all men, man-up and jackhammer fuck her! Brandon in case you didn't notice, i mentioned you as one of the few guys in porn who know how to fuck. Please, for the reputation of horny men everywhere, don't ever slow down!
Well, here's how I see it: During the last 10 years porn has become in most cases very artificial in which: 1) Male performers are being selected due to: a) big cock (90%) b) muscle (8%) c) Sometimes because they are husbands or friends of porn performers (2%) 2) Many male performers are: a) homosexual in depth so the sex becomes mechanical b) on enhancement medication or simply other types of drugs so the sex becomes mechanical and the scenes become too long c) too agressive and degrading of women making the sex more criminal in character and less feelings and sensual oriented. 3) Many female performers are: a) too loud b) without any femininity (like men with tits) 4) Many porn performers are filming several scenes a week / day which kills the feeling out of the sex act.
I´ll only say that even the best guys have bad days. And even at the top of their game, they still have to deliver each and every single time, no matter how tired they are and no matter how many scenes (or how many girls) they have to do. Hats off to the Porn Dudes.
You would be surprised how close you are to the truth. But there is some truth to the fact that many male performers do several scenes a day. Thats does get tiresome week in and week out. I give the guys credit. Ive been on set and its not all that fun overall. Michael www.adultbizlaw.com
You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06
Posted - Dec 4 2007 : 5:18PM
Why do i get the feeling NP started this thread as a segway so he could talk about his dick.
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You make excellent points. Yes, i to feel that porn has become too mechanical over the years, and many of the male performers have probably lost their feel for the sex after shooting several scenes a day. I guess i'd have to be in their shoes to understand, but the thing is i can't understand, i mean if i had the chance to fuck the girls they do, i would make myself go all out. It's one of the downsides of porn; after a few years in the biz i'm guessing most male performers stop caring, and all women start to look the same.
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Posted - Dec 4 2007 : 6:18PM
Guys don't get me wrong, i appreciate the men of porn; without them we wouldn't have porn. I'm just saying it really dissapoints me to see a woman get so into the scene, only to have her male partner fall short when it comes to having to satisfy her. If not throughout the whole scene, I think the guys should at least turn it up a notch when their partners say things like "come on, fuck me damn it!". It really dissapoints me to see a girl begging for harder sex but not recieve it because the guy is just lying there. As professionals i guess i expect more from more of them. I understand that every guy has his good and bad days, it's just that judging from the porn i've been watching for the last few years, it happens too often. I guess thats why there are so many scenes in which the girl is surrounded by cocks and has DP's performed on her; it seems that one on one scenes aren't good enough because the guys have lost their feel for the sex. That and i guess drugs and closet homosexuality are taking away from their performances. jb: yes we do have airports. If you're referring to what i said about having the chance to work in the american porn industry then its not a matter of transport. I like where i live, i have a decent job as an accountant, and i have a girlfriend for whom i care very much. Blacksix: Yes, i like dirty harry because his scenes seem real, granted he isn't the best looking of guys. Dirty Harry knows how to fuck, and he seems enthusiastic regardless of how many scenes he shoots a day. If you've watched Khan Tusion scenes with him, you know what i'm talking about. Please nobody go off on a tangent about how khan tusion is evil and should be put in jail; to each his own. Blacksix & Wheat: I couldn't care less whether you believe me about my dick size or not. This may come as a shock to you, but lots of guys have dicks that are around 8 inches in size, yes i mean 'real' guys not porn performers. I honestly believe the notion that the average size is 5 inches is bullshit, i know tons of guys who have dicks bigger than 5 inches, in fact I might even say most of my close friends do. 5 inches really isn't much if you think about it. Ramsey: I understand there is a demand for 'real' guys in porn, but i don't think most average guys have what it takes to shoot several scenes a day, much less fuck the way they're expected to on camera. Porn is just a fantasy, real sex stays in the bedroom i guess.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06
Posted - Dec 4 2007 : 6:27PM
Look you have me wrong, i don't care about your penis. Whether it's 8 inches or 20 or whether it blocks out the sun, why would you think anybody here wants to talk about your penis?
I agree with Wheat on the OP. Perfect segueway to talk about his penis. But that doesn't take away from his point. There are too many lazy male performers, or at least too many high profile ones that are lazy. Scott Nails and Julian really take the cake from what I've seen, especially considering the quality of the girls they get to perform with. A shame.
The performances of the male talent can make or break a scene. Too often nowadays the male talent is lacking.
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Posted - Dec 5 2007 : 10:02AM
Oh no! You caught me! They must be very close friends because i've seen their penises; seeing another mans penis is an instant bonding experience! since i've seen their penises i MUST be gay! That is what you were insinuating at right? Wow i had no idea people on adt were so hostile, remind me never to share anything again. Ever been in a public shower? That's how i know. Here's an idea, why don't you grow up and learn to take your anger out on a punching bag, instead of accusing people of being gay when their not, simply because you may have a miserable life? You honestly think i took the time out to plan and make the lazy performer thread, simply so i could find a segueway to brag about myself on an online forum? I have nothing to gain by bragging on an online forum, espciially since i live in canada and all the porn actresses here that i would like to fuck live in the U.S.A.
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Posted - Dec 5 2007 : 10:44AM
Your friends had erections in the shower and you then took the time to measure them? fair enough. Who said anything about being gay btw? If your friends let you measure their erections who am i to judge? you just must be closer to your friends than i am to mine. Edited by - wheat on 12/5/2007 10:49:32 AM
I suppose its like everything, you get what you pay for... Why would the guy be motivated into fucking the hell out of a chick when he's getting less than half the money she is... Sure he may want to be fucking her, but there's a lot more chicks in porn than quality guys to fuck them, so the guys are working in a lot more scenes, for less money. Chicks burnt their bras in the 70's for equal pain, maybe it's time porn studs burnt their ??? for equal pay. Not gonna happen I know, so I think a lot of porn dudes do the next best thing, just do the bare minimum to collect a pay check. Lets face it most porn consumers don't buy thier porn based on the male talent (which is a mistake IMO, obviously a hot chick is a hot chick, but if she's getting a right royal fucking by some dude who's into it then it elevates the scene tremendously, directors gotta get this combo right, when they don't it's run of the mill fucking/gonzo crap) so the chick gets top dollar and the guy fucking her is a long distant 4th or 5th thought when it comes to the scene. Smart directors put a bit more thought into this.
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Posted - Dec 5 2007 : 11:36PM
Naturally Perverted I was just taking a piss. I agree with you about most of those performers, I would add Michael Stefano, who seems to really get into it with girls and produces good scenes with them because of it.
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Posted - Dec 6 2007 : 2:41AM
Hmm... you might be on to something here, but i don't think they deliberately try to be lazy. Yes, ultimately you do get what you pay for, but porn isn't like most other jobs. Porn is fun, and i think the main reason these guys don't fuck the way they should is because they've lost their passion for the job after fucking so many women over and over again each day. I guess we can't really blame them for getting tired of fucking, i mean from my perspective i could never get tired of sex, but if i had to screw several chicks a day everyday on camera in a mechanical fashion, then yes i would probably eventually lose the feel for it. I totally agree with you about most people not buying porn for the male talent. Obviously the guys care more about who the girl is, but not looking out for who good male performers are is a huge mistake. It's part of the reason i'm in to khan tusion and rough amateur vids, they seem real; studio porn nowadays is so mechanical and fake. Blacksix: you're right, i can't believe i forgot michael stefano, he's a good performer, not to mention funny as hell. He really does get into his scenes, and you can tell he and his partner had a really good time when you watch the behind the scenes footage. He's definately worthy of mention, but even with him on the list thats still only a handful of guys who fuck properly. If guys like Shane Diesal (who probably has the thickest dick i've ever seen) and Mandingo utilized their full potential, they could do more than just satisfy their co-stars. There are some other performers out there that are less well known, and they are either hit or miss. I've seen some great scenes with guys i've never even heard of before, but to me their more miss than hit.Wheat: Holy shit dude, grow up. There's something called estimation; i don't need to mesaure my computer screen to know its bigger than 15 inches. Maybe when you grow out of your juvenile mentality you'll be able to do the same someday. Who said anything about being gay? That's what you were getting at when you said they must be 'really close' friends, weren't you? Edited by - Naturally_Perverted on 12/6/2007 2:49:01 AM
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Posted - Dec 7 2007 : 6:53PM
I disagree. I don't have any studies in front of me, but there's got to be millions of guys in America who fit the first two criteria. There's got to be an x-factor here. My vote's for nepotism/favoritism/old boy network or something similar. For example, just look at all the Jewish porn stars - no coincidence there are lots of Jewish guys producing porn too.Well, a and b need to go if they're interfering with performance. C is lame as hell when the guy thinks shit talking and fishhooking are a substitute for hard fucking (which seems to be 90%+ of the time), and needs to go too.A, god yes. B, yes, I've observed this as well. There are TONS of masculine women in porn. I think it has to do with testosterone. Women with higher testosterone levels have higher sex drives, and probably greater aggressiveness and extroversion as well. So, no mystery why they are overrepresented in porn.Then the directors should stop overbooking them and find some fresh talent.Bad days shouldn't end up in the finished product. That's what editors are for. And if a stud ends up costing his employers too much in this way, he'll wind up out to pasture.Then we're back to the overbooking problem.Nah, hats off to the exceptional porn dudes, who put their backs into it. Hat stays on for the vast majority, who fuck like sloths.What is this, a pity party for the porn studs clique? One side says there aren't enough of these guys, and the other responds that the ones getting all the work are overworked and overbooked, like that's a valid response?I bust my ass doing manual labor 40 hours a week. Am I supposed to cry a river for guys who fuck hot broads all day for a (good) living?You can bet your ass there are lots of guys out there willing to take on the "burden." Bottom line, there's obviously a demand for flicks with studs who fuck like they mean it, and if my experience is any guide, the supply is sadly lacking. Market forces, baby. There's money waiting to be made for a studio willing to make its rep on hardworking studs who do more than phone in their performances.
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Posted - Dec 8 2007 : 12:10AM
I knew it, porn is just another Jewish conspiracy.
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Posted - Dec 8 2007 : 11:41AM
I'm glad people agree with me about the lazy male performers. Now if only the producers would do something about it. There is a huge supply of guys who would be more than willing to fuck these womens brains out, why aren't these men in porn?
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Posted - Dec 8 2007 : 2:05PM
LOL. How else to explain James Deen? ;)Better yet, performers don't make their full pay unless the scene is used. Pay 'em ten bucks an hour for showing up and doing the shoot, and the rest if the scene is good enough to use. Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 12/8/2007 2:08:52 PM
I'm starting to get confused: is some of the comedy in this thread actually unintentional? But then maybe I'm just a lazy reader, not ready to give some of these posters the attention they are begging for.
It sounds like each of the above porn stars is asking for a gangbang in sequential fashion - like a train or they can appear in a Rocco directed and performed scene and I know that should quenched their passion for extreme hardcore fucking for a long time! Look, you don't see Janine complaining that it was not hard enough do you? Edited by - HarryWild on 12/8/2007 2:36:56 PM
You can bet your ass there are lots of guys out there willing to take on the "burden." Yes, but after the 1000th chick it does become a 'burden' thats what we're talking about here... Shit I'd fuck most chicks for free, but after being exploited at half the pay for 1000 scees I'd probably be looking for shortcuts, especially if I was with a chick that wasnt doing it for me. Porn can be hard work.
Porn performers make thousands of dollars which unfortunately often go wasted on drugs. People who have real hard jobs are those who make 10 dollars an hour, those who wake up every single day in the early morning to drive the bus, to prepare the bread, to catch the fish, to clean your street, to teach and entertain your children, to clean your wound, to build your house, to renovate your kitchen, and to repeatedly get exploited by the savage capitalist society which we have created.
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Posted - Dec 17 2007 : 5:58AM
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Posted - Dec 17 2007 : 6:55PM
Porn studs are well compensated. If they're in demand they make a nice living. NO, that shit ain't work, relatively speaking. And no, they don't get to take "shortcuts," any more than a waitress gets to bring you half your order. And studs get paid less because they're WORTH less. Take a look at the life cycles, males make many times as many movies as females. Men don't get their holes stretched out, either. Males are making out just fine (pun intended), so give me a break with the exploitation song. Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 12/17/2007 7:00:46 PM
a huge supply of guys? thats false. and half of those guys willing to do porn dont make it past the first week. to be honest, in order to be in this business as a male performer, you have to have an ego which says, i can really fuck really really good. but then you have to also understand that if you are a performer, then you WILL fail at some point early on. this is where most guys get fucked up and wash out. its hard to deal with public failure when you have a large ego in regards to your sexual prowess. :) second, in regards to the workload of guys. there are only about 10 guys that work 30 times or more a month. there are 20 guys who work 25-30 scenes a month. and there are another 30 or so that do 15-20 scenes a month. the largest group of guys work sporadically for a variety of reasons, and then there are the 30 guys who do the blowbangs, gangbangs, bukkakes, load dumps, etc. so i dont think overworking is an issue in most cases.
Of course there is a huge supply of guys who are WILLING. But these guys aren't in porn because they don't have the required standards. It's not about willing. In order to be a male porn performer you must have A LARGE PENIS and preferably some muscles, a good stamina, and the ability to endure long hours under camera lights, projectors and irritating directors.
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Posted - Dec 28 2007 : 3:45PM
Very interesting break down! Always figured there was a reason that we see the same male talent, scene after scene, year after year. More power to you guys! I am plenty confident in my sexual prowess and I'm not sure that I could do what you guys do (not that I hadn't considered giving it a shot in the past.) In actuality, all we see is the finished product, but BTS footage clearly shows that porn is a lot less glamorous than it seems.
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Posted - Jan 1 2008 : 12:28PM
LOl. Some of you guys might want to really think about demographics. There are at least hundreds of thousands of guys who are qualified to do porn, including guys more qualified than the guys doing it now...unless you include some "x factor." Not saying my "x factor" is the right one, but you've got to explain it somehow. Insisting it's about wood or size or stamina or ego or looks or a combination is horse puckey. That might work on some of the fanboys here but not someone with a modicum of numeracy. There are hundreds of thousands of willing guys good looking enough (ha! not even a requirement, really), hung enough, with enough stamina and ego. If you guys are buying this stuff, you might want to get out of the cubicle for a bit.
Every male performer should look up to Rocco or Jules Jordan who get the most out of their female counterparts. Some male performers are just f-ed up. Another thing: I always hated watching Mike Horner in the 80's/90's who was as goofy as a circus clown.
The size of my penis huh? Why is it always about the guys size... As Triple H once said, even a 747 looks small when it crashes into the Grand Canyon... Ladies need to tighten up a tad... But after a scene with me I can see why they'd find that prospect daunting.
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Posted - Jan 2 2008 : 4:48AM
I agree; I am more than confident with my size, however i have fucked chicks who's vagina's felt like...well i could barely feel them! There are excersizes that women can do to make their vagina's tighter, that way even the most promiscous women (the women that i am obsessed with) can tighten their pussies to the point that it seems like they barely ever fuck.
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