Maybe I'm watching too many RLD titles but I would like to see more blow job skills and not a guy plunging his dick into a girl's mouth over and over again. Isn't that what the pussy is for? I like to evaluate the skills and seeing a girl gargling pubic hair is a nice trick but maybe over used.
As a by the by why is the guy hard the instant his member pop's out of his pants, I realize with some of the female talent awash in the industry this might sound stupid but why can't we see a guy brought to hardness with a blow job more often. I hope we can see more of this in gonzo porn more often and with scene's coming in at the 3/4 of an hour mark time is on their side:)
I've posted a few times on various topics about this, and this usually gets bashed in my reviews, especially if the girl vocalizes during it (the barking seal routine) or she audibly gags, or if I actually see her heave. I don't mind if the guy fucks her mouth for a little while, and with a reasonable degree of restraint and care. I mean, some mouths feel so good, a guy can't keep his hips still. A gentle fucking of the mouth is fine with me. I'd actually prefer to see a couple minutes of that than sit through 10 minutes of a girl trying, with stomach-churning, coughing, sputtering difficulty to work her esophagus over an erect (usually large) phallus. I don't know how those guys can stand it. If I were a man, I'd need a truckload of Viagra to stay hard through that. But then, that's just me.
I'm with Hardware on this one. Let the girl "give the head" not the guy.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 12:16AM
Everyone has their tastes. I happen to very much enjoy skull fucking, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to. That's why if you don't like it, you shouldn't watch it.
The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05
Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 2:10AM
Porn is like regualr movies, there is a genre for everyone. You don't like it, you don't watch that type. I prefer features over gonzo. My preference for example. Who cares, we all know the women are not forced into it, they know what is being called for and they will either do it or not.
There's a time and a place for everything. Some times call for a nice slow erotic blow job and some for skull fucking. I like both, but skull fucking I will never give up.
I find blow jobs incredibly boring and fast forward through them, but skull fucking, and especially games like the guy choking the girl while pinching her nose, make it worthwhile watching for me.
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pornsnickety Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 10:52AM
Well, now we're getting into it so let's just talk skullduggery. I don't get the whole gagging, spitting, skull fucking thing. If I want to let the air out of my member, watching about 20 seconds of that will do it and I can't wait to hit the fast forward button. I agree it's nice if the girl approaches the guy, upzips the fly, pulls out a half limp willie and brings it to life with very deft and enthusiastic style.... now that's a turn on!!!
Not to pick on you, realtip, but this is generally a meaningless statement. Nobody who doesn't like skull fucking is going to watch a movie dedicated to it. Obviously, the problem arises because skull fucking is done in movies that aren't dedicated to that niche. In fact, it's done in movies supposedly dedicated to other niches. Nobody likes to get a movie only to find part of it unwatchable because of something off-topic.
Sure, you can read reviews, but that passive defense doesn't let producers know that they are making part of their viewing audience unhappy, assuming they care about such things.
I like skull fucking. For skull fucking without the quaking noise see Tory Lane in Feeding Frenzy. Lauren Phoenix and Katsumi give great deep throat on whatever film I've seen them. They usually suck deep and fast with no hands , so the guy dosen't have to initiate the skull fucking. They end up mouth fucking the guys furiously. I also like slow sensuous blowjobs too. Hey, I'm easy to please. Give me head and I'm happy.
I happen to agree, I hate to see skull fucking as a major part of the porn I purchase, I will always scan past it, so if it was not there at all I'd be thankful!
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Jan 18 2006 : 1:13PM
I'm with Hardware, especially when hard skullfucking isn't easy to avoid if I'm renting or buying to see a favorite star.
Case in point: I just rented "Big Fucking Tits, etc. #2" from Hustler because it had one of my alltime favorites, Davia Ardell, featured. Well, after a few minutes of slobbering, spitting, gagging, with great gobs of saliva everywhere, while the guy trashed-talked and strutted about manfully...I gave up and FFed, seeing that the entire disk was similar in tone.
Gimme a break. We have come to a sorry pass when so many buyers deem this crap strokeable. Give me a girl making LOVE to a guy's dick, not spitting and gagging on it while snarling at the camera.
Variety is nice. Skull fucking is a turn on, but not all the time. Same with drooling. Saw a great scene with no deep throating or drooling but cock thrusting into the side of the woman's cheek....almost looked like the cheek was a condom, the outline of the cock was seen so pronounced. That was a nice change I haven't seen too much of.
I really believe it depends what type of porn you're watching. If I watch Gonzo, I expect hard fact fucking, gagging, spitting, all these wonderful things and not just a slow blow.
Also on the hard-on: Well, I certinaly have one pretty instantly if there are quality chicks in the movie and dnot need a lot of stroking to get my dick in shape. I would certinaly have a straight hard-on having the girl in fornt of me just waiting to get my dick inside. So I certinaly have sympathy with the porn guys wanting to get straight into their girls.
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Posted - Jan 18 2006 : 5:14PM
Hardware wroteI feel the exact same way you do about other things in porn (though not skullfucking, which I love). For example, I am noticing alot going on with foot fetishes in porn. This happens to disgust me since I have never found feet attractive. Also, what is up with this thing where the guy kisses the girl right after she sucks his dick? I hate that. The way I see it, there's always going to be something in almost every movie that someone doesn't like to see. As for the slow, easy blowjobs, I find them to be completely boring. I've gotten to the point now where if the girl places her hands on the dick during any part of the blowjob, my finger goes straight to the fast-forward button. Otherwise, watching it will just put me straight to sleep. fatalbert wroteIf that's the same movie in which she performed with Sascha, then I saw that. When I saw that movie in the store, I anticipated seeing it because Davia was in it. I was so happy to see her return to porn after quite an absence. However, when I saw the movie, there was something about her that was different. Although she still looks good, I found myself less attracted to her than what I used to be before she disappeared. I don't know if it's because she's gotten a little older, or if she's had more cosmetic work done, or what. But anyway, I thought the movie was good except for one thing. I hated those annoying sunglasses all the chicks wore. Along with seeing the T&A and all the other good parts, I also like to see the chick's eyes, especially when she's choking on dick. On this note, I've also noticed how alot of the guys will tell the girls to keep their eyes open and look up at them while they're throating them. That is another thing I find to be sexy; when the directors and actors make sure to focus on the girl's eyes while she's sucking. That is why I hated those sunglases in the movie. Other than that, it was OK.I partially agree with you on this. While I enjoy seeing gagging, I do not enjoy seeing girls spit and snarl at the camera. That's another thing. I can't understand what's this thing where the girls keep spitting on the dick during the blowjob. That is not at all sexy. For one thing, if the girl is spitting and snarling at the camera, then that means she is not sucking dick at the time. And I believe that, during a blowjob, the dick should be in her mouth at all times.
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Posted - Jan 18 2006 : 7:55PM
fatalbert says:Exactly. In 100% agreement.
realtip says:
This is a minor contradiction because when most of these starlets gag they retreat and take their mouth off the dick. All while frowning and grimacing.
Let me say this. Some people like the gagging and skullfucking ... fine. There are some movies that cater to that and they make that fact clear. I am happy for this because I know to stay away from them.
However, what is happening now is that the gagging stuff is getting to be "commonplace" so that new girls coming in think that is the way people want to see BJs now.
So now, "regular" BJ movies are getting infected with this unsexy, unerotic mess.
This is what is making us long-time BJ/oral fans mad. We see a hot, beautiful new girl and she in a oral movie. We get all excited about her doing a sensual, exciting BJ. And instead she gags, cough, spits, has her make-up run, etc. Total waste of talent and a scene...
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 18 2006 : 8:18PM
tritone wroteThis also occurs the other way around, though people may not make as much noise about it as when it happens the way you guys describe. For example, I cannot tell you how many movies I have seen that advertise "rough" or "hardcore" blowjobs (the kind I like to see), and deliver the exact opposite where the girl only takes the dick less than halfway into her mouth and keeps her hand on it the whole time. I have seen several movies where this happens, and it pisses me off immensely. I just recently saw a movie called "Gag On This #2," that did exactly that. Contrary to the title and the advertising, the blowjobs were so tame that I literally did fall asleep during the movie (I am not even kidding, I dosed off several times). So yes, it happens all around. Since you guys claim that gagging is so commonplace now, maybe you guys should start watching the movies that advertise the rough blowjobs, and us gag-lovers can start watching the "regular" BJ movies.
I hope these protests about so-called "skull fucking" are not meant to mask the participants' true objection.
That, of course, being that they're not getting the real thing, namely a girl popping out her glass eye and taking it ocularly.
He said jocularly.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 18 2006 : 9:00PM
LOL. You know, you are right,and I *have* noticed this. For example, Devil Film's series "Throat Bangers" usually has about 50% "regular" BJs (from my perspective).
You know what this signals to me? Filmmaker laziness and apathy. And also a total lack of respect for the viewers.
I also see this in POV movies that refuse to be truly "POV" and instead just settle for tight "side" angles thinking that we are so dumb as to not know the difference.
These directors honestly do not care enough to "direct" the talent to do the kind of thing he wants (be that hardcore gagging or a "sensual" BJ).
Instead he just lets the girls come in and do what they please. He figures -- hell, the girl is naked, doing *something* sexual .... I'll just chill and let the scene play out. Some girls are great performers and just *know* what to do. But others will just do the absolute minimum and will *need* to be TOLD. But that's not going happen if the director has this mindset: "once these guys start jerking off they won't care anyway what kind of BJ she is giving".
This is the kind of attitude that comes from filmmakers who never jerked off to porn before. And now they are behind the camera having no idea what it really takes to be true to a concept and keep a scene hot.
I agree with your comments and those of others above 100%. A hot scene is all about: 1. A woman or women getting a guy all hot and bothered until he blows his load. 2. A guy or guys who is/are good enough to get a woman to orgasm after getting her all wet and drippy. If the director can get the porn stars to convince me that's what is going on in the scene it is a tremendous turn on for me. I see fewer and fewer of what I think are erotic videos and scenes all the time. I see more skull fucking, gagging, spitting, red-faced teary eyed women with mascara running, ass slapping, tit slapping, pussy strething, ass gaping in every video regardless of theme and am doing more and more fast forwards.
Edited by - pornsnickety on 1/21/2006 6:57:30 AM
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Posted - Jan 19 2006 : 11:23AM
Dude I agree. It is overdone. A lot of raincoaters find finesse sex boring. They rather see a woman gag and spit up saliva after pounding their cock in her throat. Don't get it.
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Posted - Jan 19 2006 : 3:12PM
The dirtier, nastier & sloppier...the f'n better! :) Where I suppose I stand on the matter...let's say I don't mind it (midway).
Take a look at Martin Del Toro's Tight Wads...and there is even lots of spitting at the camera - anything from saliva to throat chowder and even the lumpy, dribbly happy ending!
To keep catch with topic, lots of skull fucking & Donald Duck wannabe's as well. I especially like when they had the girls try to sing Twinkle, Twinkle lil' star with cock in their mouth. The only thing that would turn a scene like that off for me is knowing that the girls aren't into it, or willing at all.
That's AWESOME Eric! I just put Tight Wads on my must-see list. I absolutely love this kind of thing, and again, only if the girls seem into it as well.
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Jan 20 2006 : 3:18PM
First, a disclaimer: I hate censorship in all it's forms. Anyone who wants to buy and view women's mouths being treated as nothing more than an abuseable cum-sack should be allowed to do so.
My problem is that it is getting more and more difficult to find anything else in modern releases. It bears repeating that I LIKE women and therefore lament the popularity of the above.
I'm not asking for R-rated fluff--explicit is good, but porn producers would all do well to watch closely a few Tiffany Minx BJs. Now SHE got it.
April Flowers said it best in a scene with Jules Jordan: "If you'd let me, I could suck it. You just want to jab it down my throat, don't you?"
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Lovepiss Why Why Why can't I stay away from this place
12 Posts 1/06
Posted - Jan 21 2006 : 8:39AM
I'm kind of ashamed to say I prefer to watch and hear dicks shoved into the girls' mouths. I'm not very good at self analysis, but the first time I saw this it was like a switch was thrown in my head and I'd found what I'd been searching for my whole life and hadn't known what it were. I have to admit it is ugly and hostile and I'm most aroused by scenes in which the women clearly don't like it, the reactions are genuine. Drool and vomit and violent gagging sounds do not lie and neither does the relentless eye of the camcorder. There's a lot of these sorts of scenes too. Maybe I should turn myself into the police. I'm going to name the pornographers as accomplices. But anyway, there is something magical about the wordless speech of the women in facialintercourse pornography. Like the southerners who dance around snakes and speak gibberish. Or that William Hurt movie where he ate shrooms and got in an isolation tank and emerged as the troglodyte within. Some described the more horrific examples of gagporn as like the language of ducks, but to me the noises often resemble the gurgles and coos of infants, which linguists have proven to be a language. Koko the gorilla signs language. Koko loved a kitten. Did you ever see footage of Koko with the little grey kitty? Koko was tender with the kitty. It deeply touched me. But back to the point: I don't think it's such an outrageous suggestion that there should be a liguistics study at a reputable University of the language of hatethroat pornography. I'm hearing a compelling message, but I'm only getting a vague, horrible, wonderful idea of what is trying to be communicated. I believe there is something important and invaluable to be learned here.
I just saw a great example of BJs of the type I like - where the girl goes deep and it can be messy. BUT she is not forced by the guy. It was on the BangBros site. The girl was sexy as hell.
Lovepiss wroteI enjoy this alot, but I am not at all ashamed about it. What's the reason for shame?I don't think it's hostile or ugly. I think it's great. By the way, who says that the girls don't like it? I have found that alot of porn viewers are quick to assume that porn chicks don't like certain things, but to hear the porn chicks themselves tell it, they will say otherwise. Alot of these girls do like it, otherwise they wouldn't agree to do it.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 22 2006 : 9:24AM
realtip wroteI'd say getting paid is more a factor than actually liking it.
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