I don't see the contradiction (the original subject for the top quote was pedophiles and what to do with them). I didn't say that every man should have his dick cut off like Andrea seemed to believe, just the pedophiles. If you limit your sex to those over 18 and those that consent, I have no problem with you regarding sex. Andrea had problems with all men. Maybe I should have paraphrased the subject matter in the post, but I still don't see a contradiction here. Also, if you feel that I need to learn about sex, send me Kimi Lixx or Lindsay Lovehands anytime you wish. I might even let Mike South or L. T. film it for all to see (after taking two Viagra of course). Please note that I am a 400 pound man with a balding head and glasses, so this tape may not sell on the open market. In other words I look more like a cleaner version of the Minion then Evan Stone.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 5:57AM
Anyway, the real way to reduce the trafficking in child porn would be to target the message boards they use to post the material. The writer Philip Jenkins, who also presented to the US congress on his findings, lays the problem out pretty well in his book Beyond Tolerance. Edited by - BlackSix on 3/27/2010 5:59:41 AM
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:48AM
Apologies are in order for not knowing how to properly link this, but I feel that it indicates the severity of the problem and applies to this subject. http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/31148-paedophilia-and-satanism-the-fabric-of-the-web It is a rather shocking article to say the least.
And I hope you're aware that David Icke is a complete nutjob who believes that high-level government consists of shape-shifting reptilian aliens? Also I find this witch-hunt for pedophiles to be fucking ridiculous to say the least. They're no more or less criminals than murderers or rapists of adult women. Many would never attempt to violently rape a child. duefuss, pedophilia isn't a crime, it's a sexual preference. Criminal justice has never been primarily about treating or rehabilitating offenders, it's about keeping them out of society which is what prisons are for. No need for separate islands. It's patently obvious that for many people pedophiles serve as the devil incarnate. Seemingly rapists and torturers are all perfectly good people in comparison who should never have their rights violated. Only because it's about children doesn't mean it's on a whole different level of criminality and they would lose their human rights, please straighten out your minds. Guess what, the majority of related crimes are perpetrated against helpless and powerless victims; why the fuck does it matter that much if it's a child, do you think average Joe enjoys being raped by some sweaty 200 lbs bulldozer? It's nice you're trying to protect children but if you think molesting children justifies genital mutilation you're clearly not in a mental position to judge this accurately or any decision of importance for that matter.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 12:32PM
Thanks for the link. BTW, you can see how to put live links in the text of posts by referring to "Markup Text" below. The article is the usual drivel of the narrow minded paranoid sanctimonious ego freaks attracted to the fringes of religion. Pedophiles and politicians don't require any help from Satan to behave the way they do. They behave that way all by themselves. Indeed, the anthropomorphic disease bacteria that form the membership of 'organizations' like NMBLA(National Man Boy Love Association) a shadowy organization of pederasts, were said to cite Christian doctrine and the Bible ("Suffer the little Children to come onto me..." and that sort of thing) to buttress their argumnt that sodomizing liittle boys was an act of caring and moral education that was their CHRISTIAN duty, of all things. Icke(great name) is just another deluded egomaniac preaching to the choir that gives him what I hope, but doubt is a very poor living.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 1:00PM
Pedophilia is, indeed, a sexual preference, and, in fact, if all we were talking about here were the sexual fantasy of sex with children, that would NOT be a crime. But the subject of this batch of posts is about those for whom the fantasy is not enough. Crime is about behavior. When you say "Only because it's about children doesn't mean it's on a whole different level of criminality and they would lose their human rights." you are talking about sexual OFFENDERS, not guys with fantasies. And WE are talking about a sexual aberration that preys upon the most innocent and emotionally fragile and defenseless of our kind. It is indeed a "a whole different level of criminality " Finally, I retain my view which I state quite plainly ( for me, anyway), that molesting is a medical issue, not one of rights. My admittedly Utopian solution was to isolate CONVICTED molestors so that they would not molest again. Current events offer tragic and repeated proof that these people are not poor schnooks with fantasies, but dangerous predators who can no more pass up an opportunity to molest AGAIN than you or I could hold our breath until we die. I know you don't care, but I want to say that I find your response to this topic one of the the most revolting and contemptible views I have ever read. Straighten out OUR minds? Do you even understand that you have come on here to DEFEND the rapists and molestors of chidren? Straighten out OUR minds?
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 1:19PM
Thanks for the info on setting up links. I would have to retort on the matter of Icke and his research as being very thorough. I have read several of his books and the man has definitely done his homework. On the opinion that he is a nut who believes in elitist shape shifting reptilians, all I can say is that it is more plausible than believing that our leaders are actually for the benefit of humanity. Icke is a very well respected man who is waking up a lot of intellectuals with open minds. I prefer to keep an open mind and laugh when people try to tell me how to think. On the subject of criminal behavior I would say that a crime is a crime. At least put the pedophile away and let the criminals decide whether or not they deserve fair treatment in their new home community. Children are more vulnerable than adults due to their size and mental capacity for defense, that is rather obvious to me. More to the original subject, the fact that porn capitalizes on the pedophilia aspect but actively seeks to separate my pantyhose/foot fetish from anal themed productions is rather disturbing in my view.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 1:32PM
We part company onn Icke, but you clearly know more of the man than I, and you opinion is to be respected. You're welcome for the the direction to 'makup text'. I'm still not good at it, so I hit 'preview' evey time to see if I got it right. I almost never do the first time.
I disagree as I don't think that children have special rights or properties over adults. A rapist of children has the same psychological motives as a "normal" rapist; men and women who get raped are often times just as defenseless and innocent, and they are sought out specifically to be absused for sexual gratification. Victims are almost always helpless against perpetrators and the trait of assaulting weaker targets is common among a variety of criminals.This applies to tons of criminals, it's not specific to child molesters and not in any way justification to treat them differently from other criminals.Sure, that was the point. And you're just proving my point by calling it "revolting" to defend someone from suggested punishments that are completely ridiculous; next thing you know you call for the abolition of legal defense for pedophiles. It's the same problem with simulated CP as well though. Nobody really cares that much about the display of simulated violence, torture, rape etc. in media, but everyone gets their panties in a bunch if someone makes a drawing of children having sex. This is specifically because people despise pedophiles and don't want them to be able to have fantasies involving children, not because there's any moral or legal justification for that. One guy in Australia got into prison because he had some cartoons of Simpsons characters having sex.
There's another aspect of pedophilia: many pedophiles were molested as children. The trauma puts a roadblock in their psychosexual development. Thus it can be argued that molestation is worse than murder, because it ruins more than just one life, if that child becomes another pedophile and molests many more children. It's a crime that may lead to more crimes exponentially.
"Genital mutilation" can be done relatively painlessly and the men would still be able to urinate out of the tiny cunt they are given. Trust me, it is better than having to lock them up for life at $60K a year. No dick, no sex and they can't rape a kid. If they find a way to molest without the necessary equipment, they die. Sounds like good policy to me. BTW my doctor says I am mentally able to make my own decisions in life, so I am in a "mental position" to judge this accurately! If it were your kid being molested, I am sure you would change your tune very quickly!
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 10:59PM
I know about Icke, he's surrounded by anti-Semite nutters who don't realize he's actually crazy serious about the lizard men, they think he's talking in code about evil Jews who run the world. Don't humour this guy Duefuss.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:02PM
Genital mutilation would not stop child molesters, chemical castration has been used on them and it achieves nothing, it's a mental disease and they can molest children without penetrating them with their penises. Think for five seconds before posting.
Most molestations involve penetration with a penis in some way, shape or form. If my solution isn't good enough, then they have to be killed -- pure and simple. Innocent children's rights outweigh the "rights" of the child molester. In my opinion penetration is more tramatic then fondling, which is all a castrated man can do. Also, a castrated man cannot be aroused as the testes produce testosterone (as well as cum) which is what causes arousal in a man. No arousal, no reason to molest. If for some reason a castrated man molests a kid, he should die. Period! We cannot afford to lock them up for life at $60K a year. For the record I believe all rapists should be castrated or killed and all murderers killed as well, I don't change my beliefs just because a kid is involved. The offender should have the choice of castration or execution by hanging or firing squad in rape/molestation cases. Repeat offenders should be executed by hanging or firing squad in the public square just like the old days.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:31PM
Most molestation involves manual stimulation, the children are too small for penetration, and it leaves evidence of the abuse. Even talking about this kind of thing in this detail creeps the hell out of me. Read Philip Jenkins book, don't read David Icke's paranoid nonsense.
^ I knew the professor that taught investigative techniques to detectives, he said that most molestation involved penetration, at least in MI. I will concede that some could be finger penetration. He would have been in a position to know. I also knew another professor that was a former sex crimes prosecutor (and cute as hell). She also taught investigative techniques to police. She said the same thing. Since this was around 1999, it may be possible for change to happen since then, but I doubt it.
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Posted - Mar 27 2010 : 11:43PM
So you had conversations with these people about the most common form of child molestation? Or were you taught by these professors and are a cop? Sorry, I doubt the veracity of your story, I've provided a named source, who investigated internet child pornography for years and he says that material showing penetration is most valued among these sickos precisely because it is more rare.
Yes, I took some of their classes and also have had conversations with them outside of class. No, I am not a cop. Just because someone takes interest in criminal justice doesn't make them a police officer anymore than having an accounting degree makes me Bernie Madoff (yes, I have an accounting degree). BTW, I was discussing child molestation with these professors not specifically child porn, and I apologize if I accidentally led you to believe otherwise. There is almost no child porn in Michigan (that I know of), so such a conversation would have been moot. The professor I would refer you to is dead now, but he could have talked your ear off all day about child molesters and satanism involving child molestation.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 2:27PM
A distinction here if I may: Rape is an act of violence, not sex requiring penetration of any sort: whether its some part of the rapist's body or an object of some kind, it's still rape. Child molestation does not require penetration to be that. It need only be contact af a sexual nature of any kind. All rape of children is molestation, bur not all molestation is rape. Regarding at least my embrace of burning at the stake, etc. as suitable punishment for molesters, this was simply an often used device for conveying the disgust and frustration connected with molestors convicted of serious acts of molestation being put back on the streets to kill again. My error in saying it was only to assume that all here were literate and reasonable enough to know that and not take it literally simply in order to set up some argument they thought they could win easily.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 3:25PM
Blacksix, you just proved that you know nothing substantial about Icke, and that anti-Semitism angle is weak. Icke calls out pedophiles, connects many dots, and brings facts to the table that make narrow minds uncomfortable.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 3:41PM
Saying it doesn't make it so. What is the independent corroboration of his claims? Otherwise, his claims are only delusions. I have a Brother-in-Law who, in spite of his medications, says that Harry Truman is orbiting the earth with Atom bombs he's going to drop on us. He states this with the quiet matter of fact assurance of recived truth that is no less certain than Ickes sounds.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 4:27PM
The answer is YES,...and at one time, people were ridiculed when they put forward a hypothesis that the world was round. Some were even tortured and killed. Thank goodness for progressive thinking and the ability to ask questions regardless of how ridiculous they may seem. If you refuse to hear what someone is saying, that is your choice and I wish one well in that cloud of blissful idiocy. However, once you do hear what Icke is saying, you will never look at the world the same as before. You begin to see the connection between Satanism, pedophilia, and the porn industry symbolism utilized in their corporate logos and stage sets. This is precisely what they fear most as they continue controlling minds.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 4:50PM
I don't think anyone was put to death for believing the world was round, and they still WOULD be ridsiculed if theor position had not been verified by Corroboration.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 5:12PM
The Church put people to death all the time for saying things like the Earth is not the center of the universe or that the moon revolved around the Earth. The Church is one of the most active agents of Satan ever. Even today, it utilizes this mask of Christian righteousness to carry out an agenda which is contrary to human spirituality. Look at how the agents of Satan harbor pedophiles within the Church, and how the news media always refers to them as "pedophile priests". This is strategic in nature as it associates the Christian religion with pedophilia. Pavlov and his dog taught them much. Look at how Rocco Siffredi sports the biggest crucifix possible as he degrades women with his big toe, spiting, ass to mouth, and so on. Max used references to God (..and God created Max, to keep those fucking bitches in line!) throughout his career. Subliminal warfare at its finest. Basilica, quite a strange name for the Church, don't you think?
i propose a new forum, co-moderated by charn and AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy. the forum name could be Conspiracy, Wacking Off-Topic, Invisible Girlfriends, etc.
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I'm still trying to figure out how we went from schoolgirl outfits and lollipops in porn to whether David Icke is completely insane or only halfway batshit. Please take this horseshit somewhere else.
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 10:18PM
You do realize that you're on a porn forum right? This must be ground zero for the Satanic pedophile porn conspiracy. Now that you've exposed yourself here on a porn forum aren't you worried the lizard shape-shifters might come for you? I'm sure they can track you by your IP and may come to sodomize you in your sleep. In fact you're taking a pretty big chance just reading this, there could be coded symbols in this message that could be controlling your mind, making you masturbate to asian women in panty hose getting sodomized. Be very careful...
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Posted - Mar 28 2010 : 10:41PM
From Time To Tell The Truth About Israel by David Icke: The parallels are endless between the bloodthirsty 'God' of the Old Testament and the actions of the heartless, soulless, Artificial Intelligence that controls Israel, most notably the biological robots of the House of Rothschild who thus have no soul, no empathy, no more mercy for the consequences of their actions than a desktop computer.
He didn't say that all molestation was Satanic if that is what you are alluding to. He did say that many Satanists are child molesters as certain sacrifices to Satan involve child molestation. I wish he was still alive, I would ask him to explain further (we touched on it lecturing about molestation, not as a full look into Satanism). He did say that if you see certain symbols, get your kid far away from his/her involved friends and provided a list of them. I would never post them here, but the list was very interesting. I will have to go through my college notes and see if I still have it. It has been (almost) a couple of decades since I took the class, so maybe a few things have changed, but I doubt it.
Where in the world did you find Chris Hansen in a tux carrying a gun? Yes, he fights child molestation, but I haven't ever seen him pose with a gun before. I bet he would get a kick out of him being brought up in a porn forum (twice now).
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Posted - Mar 29 2010 : 10:02AM
When it comes to discussing porn, I'm right there with you. I have made several comments on subject pertaining to this thread. The fact that pedophilia and Satanism do mix at times also makes this reference to Icke applicable because he connects it all quite clearly and effectively. Saying that members of the Rothschilds are acting as evil agents does not make one anti-Semitic. That is quickly becoming one of the most knee-jerk defense mechanisms of our time. It is very common for evil people to claim Jewish heritage so they can pull that anti -Semitic card and continue their bullshit. As far as being ridiculed for my belief or fearing for my safety, I don't care. Pornographers who push sick agendas instead of erotica should be called out. Pedophiles within any level of organization should be exposed. If you have a problem with what I am saying, that says more about you than anything.
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 2:08AM
There is no evidence of any kind of Satanic plots tied to child molestation. Practically everyone convicted during the 'Satanic Panic' of the 80s has subsequently been released because there was no real evidence. Of course, the paranoid would find that to just be even more evidence of the conspiracy. At a certain point, there's no debating the paranoid, as they'll just spin any contradictory evidence into evidence of the cover-up. Thread officially derailed. But hey this is more fun than another 'is pretend underage porn just pedo porn' debate. So, is Rocco a shape-shifting lizard or just one of their pawns?
Edited by - BlackSix on 3/30/2010 2:09:22 AM
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 3:03AM
It is funny how the original link to David Icke deals with pedophilia, yet the derailment of the subject came when others beside myself made references to lizard and anti-Semitic rhetoric. I am right on subject without a need to insult or hurl quotes that spin my original basis of thought. Perhaps if we could get back to the subject of pedophilia, and the purveyors who profit and pleasure from it, it would make more sense. I stand by the Icke article and his freedom to express his findings.
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 8:41AM
You may believe whatever comforts you. These days especially one may be forgiven for believing that the Catholic church secretly condones child molestation, though I don't belive it myself. As for shape shifting lizzards and such, you're on your own. And that church has no one to blame but itself for any sinister motives or hidden agendas attributed to it, since it is one of the most secretive and evasive organizations in History. But the Church never put anyone to death for thinking the world round. The Ptolemaic model that the church endorsed was routinely pictured with a round earth at its center and, even in Columbus' time, the notion that sailors might fall off the edge of a flat planet was considered foolish. Greeks had fairly accurately calculated the circumference of the Earth before the time of Christ, and these calculations were known to the church. The shape of the planet did not concern them. What did concern them was the suggestion that the Earth was not the center of the Universe. It was that idea that got Galileo in trouble, and he wasn't executed, only threatened with torture, at which point he recanted, as was placed under a defacto house arrested for the rest of his life.
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 9:08AM
Okay. The Church didn't execute anyone for believing the Earth was round. I believe the government is run by lizards. I'm paranoid, and believe that Rocco is a lizard sending me subliminal messages that make me want to rip the pantyhose off my invisible girlfriend in a Satanic toe sucking and sodomistic rage. I'm so busted. With that being cleared up, I like the way the pornographers dress up women in pigtails and cute little sheer socks while they do anal, but I can't stand when they portray them as little girls or toddlers. I also believe the populace is systematically conditioned to think by the media, which is all connected at the top. People have a herd-like mentality and warden each other by ridicule so that no member dare to speak out. Fuck that, this world is loaded with pedophiles in high positions and they definitely communicate with each other through esoteric symbolism. Their Satanic links are all very well documented and they are everywhere around us. This message was not sponsored by DEVIL'S FILMS and their new release "It's Okay, She's My Stepdaughter 3"
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