^ Pentasa, before you call someone dumb (or "dim" in this case) you should always make sure you know what you're talking about. The ADT member Celeste is not the buxom performer from the 90's whose pic you posted above. Our Celeste is the woman who directs for Digital Playground, and used to perform under the name BunnyLuv.
LOL...anyways...it gives me an excuse to go look for pictures of Angel Dark's pussy...of course we can't post them here.
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Posted - Aug 17 2009 : 8:28PM
Charlie Hustles and BYOB Kenobi, thanks for your contribution. Between the two lists, there's a number of girls I've never even heard of... damn!, now i gotta go look em' up!
Sigh; that's just rude and uncalled for. You're welcome to your preference in labia but your preference is not a law of nature.
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Posted - Aug 17 2009 : 11:36PM
I called him Dimrod for this question: 'If she didn't do IR THEN WHY?'. Seriously, who here doesn't find this dumb question irritating? He is asking me or anyone who reads his post to find out, even speculate (as he himself habitually does!!) as to why Celeste may not have done IR. In all fairness, no one can answer his dumb question except Celeste herself (if she really cared to!!). I was merely attempting to direct the clueless Dimrod toward getting his answer from the horse's mouth, or so to speak. Wether the same Celeste posts here is a matter entirely for Dimrod to determine in order to get his answer, not me. If he wants his question answered and taken seriously by others, he's gotta be prepared to do some honest research and backup his statements with hard evidence rather than invent and peddle speculations and innuendos both on this forum and elsewhere on the net. I'm comfortable knowing that the Celeste I'm referring to has long retired from performing and she only ever worked with only 2 or 3 white guys with whom she had longterm relationships with. Other than Dimrod, anyone else would be considered insane to go in search of Celeste now just to find out the reason why she never did IR during her career. Edited by - Pentasa on 8/17/2009 11:54:37 PM
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 17 2009 : 11:39PM
Like I said, OMO. "Rude"? Are you kidding me? Let's see... we're here on the internet, we're discussing hardcore porn, and we have to make sure we're minding our manners? Wow... didn't see that one coming. Anyway, I did try my best to be as tasteful and sensitive as possible cause she is one of my favorites. To me, her "condition" seems like an easy fix - a snip here, a snip there and voila!, she's a brand new woman. Edited by - wmonbear on 8/18/2009 1:09:58 AM
How can you skip two of the all time best looking ever? Chasey Lain (in her prime) and Nikki Dial? Those two along with Raquel Darrian would make my top 5 along with Savanna Samson and Sunny Leone. Honorable mention to kira kenir, Tori Black, Janine (pre tattoos), Tracy Winn, Tina thomas, Asia Carrera, Ginger Lynn (80's), PJ sparx, April West, Tori Welles, Celeste, Julia Ann, Monique Alexander (pre-tattoos), Samantha Strong, Haven, Jill Kelly, Raven.
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Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 12:17AM
For my taste, there are 2 sweethearts and a diva on your list that get my attention. There's Tracy (cute-as-a-cupcake) Wynn who was very pretty in a girl-next-door kind of way (never got over her), PJ Sparxx ALWAYS did it for me, and then Janine who I worry might tatoo her perfect face next. If you notice, her tats have been spreading upward on her body like wildflower. Edited by - wmonbear on 8/18/2009 12:21:36 AM
OMO? Sorry, I don't get it. If you meant IMO, then that's hardly an excuse for calling her labia deformed. "Rude"? Are you kidding me? Let's see... we're here on the internet, we're discussing hardcore porn, and we have to make sure we're minding our manners! Wow... didn't see that one coming. Why should I kid you? Rude is rude, and a public forum is a public forum. There's as good a chance that Angel Dark will read what you wrote as there is that anybody else will. Would you like strangers to start pointing at you and saying you are deformed? If not, then why is OK for you to do it to somebody else? Anyway, I did try my best to be as tasteful and sensitive as possible cause she is one of my favorites. To me, her "condition" seems like an easy fix - a snip here, a snip there and voila!, she's a brand new woman. Well, I'm sorry to say that you failed. Ms. Dark has no "condition", "deformity" or anything other than labia which don't suit your idea of perfection. That is hardly cause for suggesting she go under the knife, for the simple reason that you are not God. Your tastes are not her problem. BTW, "tasteful and sensitive as possible" goes something like this: Unfortunately, Ms. Dark's labia are larger than I prefer, and while the fault, no doubt, is in myself, I must still deduct a point. See? Was that so hard?
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 6:13AM
FYI, OMO stands for "one man's opinion" This thread is primarily a solicitation for top 25 lists of the most beautiful porn babes ever. Because this topic spans so many years and therfore so many women, it lends itself to open and honest discussion and/or debate. You may find you agree with some points of view and disagree with others. That's the nature of this venue. Pornstars, like any other public figures, are inevitably subjected to some degree of public scrutiny... it comes with the territory. I formed an opinion about Angel Dark and then chose to express that opinion (the first amendment would certainly allow me to do that). Fortunately however, I don't have to answer to YOUR code of conduct, nor do I have to appeal to YOUR personal sensibilities. Everyone who wishes to share their thoughts in this forum should have the right to do so in any manner they choose (as long as its within ADT guidelines). It is shameful and blatantly pompus to attempt to impose your own personal morals onto this forum. As if that weren't enough, you even had the audacity to rephrase the comment in question in order to meet your individual standard of approval. This wreaks of censorship!
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 6:35AM
Hardware...your tirade was completely unnecessary. Why didn't you simply refer me to ADT's etiquette page? According to website rules, I definitely stepped over the line with my comment. My apologies to ADT and for what it's worth, to Angel Dark. Apparently, this is not the place for uncensored discussions. Essentially, you are in violation if you say anything negative about a porn star, director, or producer. But that's OK... I can live with that. Where else can you chat it up with pornstars on a near daily basis? ADT still rules!
In fairness you're not supposed to attack a performer but to give an honest opinion... I think you were fair, albeit blunt in your evaluation. I saw nothing wrong with it. Not nearly as bad as some of these threads. check out this one. https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=139187/forum_id=5/cat_id=1/139187.htm The whole thread is an attack on a performers boob job and looks...where is hardware over there....I guess boob job yes, vagina NO. Go figure.
The truly sad thing is that you need the forum etiquette to make you act like a gentleman.
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 8:51PM
Why do I need to act like a gentleman ..H E R E, of all places?? Most of us men live out our daily lives in a respectful manner on our jobs and amongst our families. Porn, like sports, serves as a great outlet (a counter balance if you will), allowing us the opportunity to shed that cumbersome gentleman exterior imposed by mainstream society. And we play along, of course, because we have to. Ultimately though, we yearn for and must quench our primal urges. Thankfully we have porn, and lots of it! Now don't get me wrong, gentlemanly behavoir does have its place, like formal dinners, corporate gatherings or, better yet, the opera...but a porn forum??? That just ain't natural!
Come on now, you should know that the First Amendment is applicable to government conduct, not a privately-run website like ADT. Edited by - The DMan on 8/18/2009 10:58:07 PM
In no particular order: Ashley Blue Tori Welles Ariana Jolie Tia Tanaka Lexi Belle Jewel D'Nyle Gauge Veronique Vega Judy Star Monica Sweetheart Sunny Lane Stacey Valentine Tiffany Millions Ashley Jensen Nikki Dial Stephanie Swift Dyanna Lauren Patricia Petite Jenny Hendrix Teagan Kinzie Kenner Christy Canyon Haley Paige Jaclyn Case Alicia Rhodes
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Posted - Aug 19 2009 : 12:58AM
Cream of the crop - Aiden Starr Erin Chase Lucy lee Riley Shy Mindy Lynn Angel Kelly Sepia Ray Farrah Foxx Misty Stone Lanny Barbie Cassie Rose Puma Swede Lela Starr Ashli Orion Ava Rose Mia Rose Lisa Ann Nikki Vixon Taylor Vixen Leanni Lei Felicia Mai Lin Taija Rae Patti Cakes Daisy Ava Vincent Debra Halbert Kiara Diane Holly Pink Priva Katie Morgan Diana Doll Gail Force Nicki Brantz Carol Connors Jessi St. James Arcadia Lake Selena Steele Veronica Hart
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2009 : 5:17AM
ADT is a front-line promoter of porn. The porn industry, with its extreme, no-holes-barred* image, pushes the First Amendment to its absolute limit. Yet ADT, in practice, does not embrace the First Amendment. Isn't that a bit hypocritical? (*no pun intended)
As I proved earlier in this thread that forum Etiquette Policy Only applies "sometimes" ....check out that thread I provided...it breaks every so called etiquette rule.
Discussing porn and having ground rules that maintain some level of civility and encourage participation from porn-insiders are not mutually exclusive. Heck, under American law, even the First Amendment allows for some restrictions.
I don't have a top 25 list, but I have to comment on no one mentioning Kimi Lixx. She is one of the cutest women ever to grace porn and her sexuality makes her even cuter! Watching her perform always puts a smile on my face. As you would see on her scene in Amateur Angels (1 IIRC) she has quite a sense of humor, too. From her posts on here, she is also very intelligent -- all in all, quite a package! Also, I have to mention Calli Cox. Admittedly not the prettiest woman (although attractive), but she has a very curvy body and a certain indescribable sexuality about her as well (I would love to have her any day of the week, along with Kimi). She also gives smokey blow jobs in a BTS scene of one of her movies (I will try to go through my collection for the name) for those into that. I do have to agree that Julia Ann should be on anyone's list. Justine Jolie is also a very beautiful woman that excels at the submissive role in bondage flicks.
sAID jaktarn: Aurora Snow, Ginger Lynn Traci Lords, Gauge Shyla Stylez, Monica Sweetheart Stacey Donovan, Jill Kelly Tabitha Stevens, Shane (from Shanes World) Keri Sable, Teagan Presley Envy, Kelsey Hart Faith Adams, Emma Starr Debi Diamond, Tabatha Cash Amandla (Swedish redhead) Nina Hartley, Nikki Jayne J.R Carrington, Inari Vachs Kimberly Franklin, Lea De Mae TOTALLY agree w/tabitha statement... espec w/her cumback this year. who cares about all the plastic surgeries. enhance what you got, babe! Image in violation of the image policy http://pornvideo.com/details.link/tid/955222/tkcode/prrel81809/dvd/Seasoned-Players-10.htm sp10 w tabitha stevens Edited by - redish on 8/22/2009 12:13:30 AM
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 10:11PM
Bluto, From your list, there were 2 names that jump out at me - Carol Connors (late 1970's) - tall slender, big titted blond with long legs... i still have her classic scene with John Holmes from Erotic Adventures of Candy. She played the "dumb blond" role to perfection. Jessi St. James (late 1970's to early 80's) - This woman was hot, pretty, smart, and classy, and a great actress...during a time in porn when it mattered. Edited by - wmonbear on 8/21/2009 10:17:56 PM
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 10:48PM
Jaktarn Interesting that you put Keri Sable on your list. When i first created my top 25, she was on my list. I thought she would be a lock. But when i broke it down category by category she came up a little short with 88 pts. Here was a babe who in my mind was flawless, but didn't make the final cut after being put through the ringer, proving that there was at least some degree of objectivity in my system.
Does anyone else have Angelica Bella on their Top 25 porn babes list?
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Posted - Aug 22 2009 : 10:44AM
I'll be honest, babes with implants would never get a 10 breast rating from me. A perfect breast augmentation would only get a 9 (Raquel Darrian's implants in their prime) - 10 for perfection with a 1 point deduction for being unnatural. Raquel is one of the few cases i've seen where surgery actually enhanced the woman's breast rating. That's because what is gained in size is usually lost by unnatural appearance. In some cases, I actually had to lower the rating because they looked grossly unnatural. Edited by - wmonbear on 8/22/2009 12:12:26 PM Edited by - wmonbear on 8/22/2009 12:13:32 PM
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Posted - Aug 22 2009 : 12:45PM
This is my #1 rated porn babe of all time. Veronika Zemanova. See her score card below. I'm surprised she hasn't appeared on anyone else's list. Physical category & Rating F 9 T 8 W/H 10 ABS 10 P 10 A 7 Cplx 6 Th 10 L/Kn 9 F-T-A 24 SCORE 79 Bonus 5.0 8.78 Rank 1 std deviation 1.39664501
Scratching my head in bewilderment over the fact that Julia Ann and Taylor St Claire aren't at the "top" of everyone' s list???? But then, after seeing that so many of the names on various lists are European, it suddenly "dawned" on me that a great many who post here at ADT are not from the USA and thus, may not have been exposed as much to the rare beauty of these two ladies---at least, that's my explanation.
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 22 2009 : 7:18PM
I'm hearing a lot of Julia Ann nominations. Yeah, she's attractive like most other girls in the industry. But is she extraordinary? From a purely physical standpoint where exactly does she excel? I'm just not gettin it.
Veronika Zemanova : It's pretty simple. She is thought of as a nude model and not a porn star. The same goes for Yana Cova [Image not found DB]
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Posted - Aug 22 2009 : 8:28PM
At the very top of this thread I stated the following: "I've put together a list of who I believe to be the top 25 most physically attractive women in the history of porn... from softcore models to hardcore pornstars" I know ADT focuses on hardcore porn, but I wanted to have a more complete representation of the porn industry. Btw, Jana Cova is a very good pick! She's another one I thought would be top 25 material. But she ended up just missing, placing 27th on the list with 89 points. Edited by - wmonbear on 8/22/2009 8:37:09 PM
^ Which comes back to my "total look" point. IMHO, you've got to look at the whole package. When we look at Julia Ann -- her total look -- she's off-the-charts! Over the years, I've found that girls may have a feature (or body part) that particularly appeals to me (or not). But, honestly, I've never thought of girls in the terms of their individual parts. Part of this, I'm sure, has to do with the fact that I can be stimulated by almost any type of body part (i.e. big boobs, small boobs, no boobs, natural boobs, quality fake boobs, A-B-C-D-DD cups, you name it) -- in wild contradiction to each other -- based on how they fit in with a girl's total look and type. BTW, Julia Ann is one of those girls, IMHO, who has matured from early-career attractive to off-the-charts hot as a MILF. Those of us who were whacking-off to Kay Parker on film in real movie theatres always knew how hot the killer MILF was/is. Thank God the industry is finally waking up and giving us the hot, attractive women again regardless of age.
Types. I like to break it down by types, like boxing has different weight classes. Because there's so many naked people, you know? And have you noticed that new pornstars are always coming? (So to speak.) So it gets more and more confusing over time to keep all these naked people in mind while making a top 25 list. So when you ask for a list of top babes, I'm inclined to ask "Which Top 25?" Do you mean the top 25 All Stars? Rare Gems? Spinners? Lusty Titters? Lipstick Titters? Foreigners? Because if I had to combine all of these categories into a single top 25, that would be like comparing apples and oranges and plums and blueberries and nut clusters and the Ford Focus.
^ I don't have a problem with anything you wrote. But, please, when you quote someone, quote them. Stringing pieces of what they wrote together, as if it was actually what they wrote, doesn't always work well. Some people -- not you -- do this deliberately (especially in political threads). Anyway, it's a pet-peeve of mine.I think the parts you left out (highlighted in bold) matter to my opinion, and should be included when you are presenting a contiguous "quote." Over the years, I've found that girls may have a feature (or body part) that particularly appeals to me (or not). But, honestly, I've never thought of girls in the terms of their individual parts. Part of this, I'm sure, has to do with the fact that I can be stimulated by almost any type of body part (i.e. big boobs, small boobs, no boobs, natural boobs, quality fake boobs, A-B-C-D-DD cups, you name it) -- in wild contradiction to each other -- based on how they fit in with a girl's total look and type. What particularly caught my eye was the omission of "-- in wild contradiction to each other --." So, while selectively quoting a sentence or paragraph is a fine acceptable practice, splicing one together really isn't. Just sharing my thoughts with you. I'm not mad at you, so, please, don't take offense.
Message Received. And in related news,Yeah, I can see how splicing my quotes like that might make the original poster feel misrepresented. Almost as if I'm not honoring the spirit of the quoted material. Point taken, and I applaud your strong stance on improving the quality of porn journalism. Now if we could just get news reporters to practice a similar ethic....
------------- Now here's a top 25 babes of all time list, with emphasis on "babes", and also on "A" (as in this is "a" possible list and not "The" definitive list): Celeste, Lisa Ann, Raquel Darrian, Samantha Strong, Crystal Gold, Carmen McCarthy, JR Carrington, Stacy Silver, Nikki Dial, Tanya Danielle, Katja Jean, Bree Olson, Savanna Samson, Suzie Sweet, Brittany Andrews, Lucy Loren, Tanya Rivers, Lexus Locklear, Sunrise Adams, Janine, Serenity, PJ Sparx, Angela Summers, Carmen Luvana, Ashlynn Brooke.
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Posted - Aug 29 2009 : 12:07PM
Guys, so far I've only made 1 adjustment to my top 25 most physically atrractive list since this thread began (added Raquel Darrian), but there could be another adjustment in the making. Folks you are in for a special treat. A name from the 1980's that has returned from the deep corners of my memory. Gentleman, allow me to introduce to you (or re-introduce, as the case may be) the voluptuos Ms. Rachel Ashley. You will absolutely fall in love with this girl, if you haven't already. Please know, pictures alone just don't do this woman justice. Although it's not a criterion for making my list, she quite possibly is the most naturally sexiest woman I have ever seen in porn or mainstream. To fully appreciate this underrated goddess, please click on the link below. Here are a few pics. Enjoy!... http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t1095-rachel-ashley.html
Edited by - redish on 9/9/2009 12:29:08 AM Edited by - wmonbear on 9/12/2009 2:15:58 PM
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Posted - Sep 9 2009 : 10:07AM
^ wmonbear, Rachel Ashley reminds me of the currently working (relatively new) Nikki Anne esp. earlier in her career when she had curly hair. They both have freckles, similar breasts size & shape (even larger than average areolas), similar facial features, and similar body frames. Nice find. [mod edit: quote removed] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/10/2009 6:15:17 PM
hmm, tricky to dissasociate physically most beautiful from essentially those that turn you on the most, which combines beauty and character with the type of material they put out. Also tricky given that by defining beauty we automatically associate it to stereotypical images. In fact, i've just convinced myself i can't answer this as i don't follow porn primarily based on physical beauty. However.. my abbreviated list includes (in no particular order): Annette Schwarz Chloe Daniella Rush Jenna Haze Kacey Lucy Lee Michelle Wild Naomi Rebecca Linares Sasha Grey Vanessa Chase plus a whole host of other European porn actresses that are all beautiful, it would be too difficult to differentiate. eg. Vanessa May, Claudia Rossi, Angel Dark... etc
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 4:40PM
Yes, on first thought it might seem impossible to differentiate a large group of gorgeous babes. But if you have a solid rating system, it becomes much easier.
This is the system I use - The women are rated on a scale of 1 to 10 for each of nine areas of the body, including: Face, Breast, Skin/complexion, Hip to waist ratio, Abs, Ass, Pussy, Thighs, and legs. You need to establish your "10" standard for each category. My system gives more weight (twice the points) for Face, Breasts and Ass since these are the "high profile" areas with the greatest visual impact. The final score will include the overall score + bonus points for number of times the woman receives a 9 or 10 rating (with a 9 rating adding only half a bonus point). The maximum possible score for this rating system is 129 points.
Introducing Dallas Rea
Posted - Aug 17 2009 : 3:14PM
