I agree. Can you just imagine an American actress doing a movie like this (Hillary Scott for example)?. It would make for some of the most strokeworthy porn EVER.
Maybe one day, Brandon or someone like him will make this a reality.
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Posted - May 15 2005 : 4:57PM
How much cum is 172 shots in terms of volume?
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Posted - May 15 2005 : 5:04PM
I just found out the volume of the average ejaculation is 5 ml, so that would be 860 ml. But some of those Japanese guys save up so it probably ends up being about a liter.
I'm pretty sure that this movie simply shows one performer, in several separate scenes, so it's not quite as impressive as it sounds.
Brandon does a great job with AGSOI. Every movie has several girls, and all of them swallow massive loads, and all the loads are 100 percent real. Nothing is fake.
I'm not sure if it's possible to make AGSOI any better than it already is.
Well, Brandon could try and hire Kacey and Alana Evans (hint), but other than that, AGSOI continues to be the gold standard for US cum swallowing movies.
With Asia's significamt potential to compete for global dominance in a number of key fields, its imperative we not dodge this threat, but rise to reestablish our position.
This, in order to solidify our place, as the world's leading purveyors of cumshot production, in both fluid distribution, and unmatched volume of consumption.
Yeah, there was a time when I thought all the Japan bukkake was real too...until I had the chance to see a few uncensored versions and saw that many of the guys were using tiny tubes to shoot fake cum. Not only that but not all the liquid in the cups or bowls or whatever they are drinking from looks like cum. After seeing these things I threw out all my censored Japanesse Bukkake dvds as I cant take it seriously anymore.
Dont get me wrong, I love bukkake films, and Japanesse porn, especially Joydel, but when it comes to bukkake I will stick with Brandons stuff, American Bukkake, and British Bukkake.
Sorry for saying that but i think it doesn´t matter how much a performer "gulps" down it will always not be enough for some guys. (No offense nietzsche) Why not drown her in a sea of cum ? Most of the guys (i bet) haven´t even "gulped" down their own cum and still wanna see women gulp down massive loads after loads. Don´t you guys even know what you are asking for ? Any AGSOI DVD is still on my "2do" stack but i´ve seen a few previews that tell me there´s not much better to find when it comes to swallowing vids. And (4 me anyway) it´s not that important if the cum is real or not ... it´s the fantasy that count´s.
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Posted - May 16 2005 : 8:41AM
I like the way you think, dude.I've never boxed in a ring either, but I'll watch other people do it.That's true. I wasn't implying Brandon't movies weren't any good.
Hi,Maybe i put it the wrong way .. i meant guys wanting to see women swallow huge amounts of cum and don´t even know what it is like to swallow even a single shot themselves. It´s like with any "big" numbers ... people tent to only see the numbers and don´t know what it actually means. (unemployement rate, eg)
Check out "No Cum Dogging Allowed 6" when it is released from Red Light District. Biance Purehart swallows 20 loads out of a dish and takes half of one on the face!
Nietzsche, the uncensored bukkake movies that I saw a few years ago were titled something like "Bukkake Bang" and another was something like "Wang Bang Bukkake" or something. Like alot of Japan porn there were also letters and numbers in the titles. I picked them up in different online stores, I am not sure which ones. Like I said in my post, some of the guys clearly had tubes they used. Some guys were good a hiding it and it isnt noticable, but you can tell the cumshot doesnt look right. When I went into frame by frame slow mo, you can clearly see the tubes. Other guys were not so good and hiding them, but if there were the mosiac blocks over them you would not notice the tubes. Some of the cumshots are real, and some are not.
Uncensored Japanese Porn is easy to find, except for bukkake films, and I suspect that it is because much of them is faked. They would make a fortune if they sold two different versions, one for Japan, another for Europe and North America, but they dont do that either. So I would guess that they are not really into making alot of money, or much of the movies is fake. Alot of Asian girls come to America and work for guys like TT Boy, so why couldnt these companies film some bukkake movies here and make alot of money? I suspect because much of how them film them is not real.
I enjoy bukkake films like American Bukkake and British Bukkake, and uncensored Asian porn such as the two Joydel series "Mouth Skill" and the series "Hand Skill" I also buy all the "Little Asian Cock Suckers" from Asian Eyes.
As for all the Japanese bukkake films, I just cant take them seriously anymore.
If the girls aren't hot while swallowing it doesn't does much for me. Most of these Japanese girls are cute, but they swallow like robots. Only a few of the girls I've seen look sexy while doing it. One of my favorite is starring this girl Kirari Koizumi swallowing 163 loads, she's not the cutest, but definitely the sexiest cum swallower I've seen.
Brandon does his thing and does it well, I think it's important to remember that hot girls are more likely to accept swallowing like 15 loads than 172...
JM suck, I was watching American Bukkake 24, and at the end of this girl's swallowing session he asks her all these humiliating questions... now that's why some people find bukkake humiliating and degrading...
MisterNoGood: I don't think it's about fake cum. Some of the cum bathing scenes are obviously fake... but all else is most likely real. Those 'tubes' I would say isn't tubes but products made to keep the erection or increase the squirting.
The reason why there's no uncensored versions of bukkake movies are most likely that producers don't see enough market for it anywhere else - and distributing underground material isn't cheap.
GGG just recently got distributed in the US if I'm not mistaken. If the Japanese think their movies could sell good enough here, they would release uncensored versions.
And I don't think original Japanese porn will ever be popular enough to justify world wide distribution.
I've said this before - it's not easy faking cum, or is there some magic recipe that makes ALL the swallowed cum look exactly the same? If so I'm curious of the ingredients. Also there would be much more movies released, and why stop at 172? Why not chock the audience with a thousand fake cum shots?
Even tho I'm a swallow fan, nonsense like this I would never buy.
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Posted - May 17 2005 : 7:27AM
I am not much in big number swallowing either, but I think making reality/real personal behaviour of the viewer a starting point for porn is completely inappropriate. Porn is phantasy! The viewer IMO has all the right to ask exactly what he doesnt get in his private life or would never do himself. Because porn girls are actresses having decided to play such and such part. All we do here is asking them to play our phantasies/asking the directors to stage them/find girls willing to perform them. IMO there is nothing wrong with that at all.
Top it??? I just want to own it! I will give 2 of my movies for one Japanese bukkake DVD from Shuttle or JAV or any other company that you like. E-mail me at brandoniron_99@yahoo.com if you want to trade. I am still upset over the treatment of Michael Keaton at the hands of the Japanese in the '80's classic GUNG HO. Remember how cruel they were to him when they forced him to make his quotas? Perhaps trading DVDs will be the first step in the healing process.
I finance my own movies, so 172 loads would be expensive. Perhaps someone with deeper pockets should (and will) do it.
It's fun to play the numbers game, but quality does count. More doesn't always mean better. Having said that, check out the 117 loads swallowed in A GOOD SOURCE OF IRON #5 when it comes out in June and let me know if this is not the best in the series. (I wouldn't ask this without knowing the answer.)
Quality counts, but so does authenticity. I know AGSOI is the real deal, and that's not something I can say about other cum swallowing movies.
In my opinion, AGSOI remains the best cum swallowing series available today, with Jules Jordan's stuff running a close second.
The only change I'd like to see, in AGSOI, is maybe including one porn star veteran in each volume. My personal pick would be either Kacey or Alana Evans.
Both of those performers have shown what it takes, with Alana really knowing how to talk dirty (see her scene in Down The Hatch), and Kacey just bubbling over with her kinky and submissive performances.
Cyberchicken: Everyone has different tastes. What appeals to one guy may not appeal to another. Jules is the king of all (adult) media. His success is unmatched anywhere in porn. For me, the ultimate swallowing movie was made by Mike John for DOWN THE HATCH #8. Watch it and tell me different!
You're suppose to be modest Brandon, but AGSOI is the bust cum swallowing series that I've ever seen, though I admit DTH is pretty fucking awesome.
I give your series the nod, because you've really gone out of your way to take suggestions, and use them in your movies. I think the fact that some AGSOI scenes can be directly traced back to specific threads here, at ADT, is going way beyond the call of duty, and makes you the premo director in the biz today.
....and to think you are saying this BEFORE you've seen AGSOI #5!! Not to go nuts or anything, but I will be as proud as a new papa when this one comes out. If porn were the Olympic pole vault event, this one is my attempt at 6.15 meters.
RE: USA Today: The men's world record in the pole vault is 6.14 meters, set by Sergei Bubka of the Ukraine in 1994.
I actually own "Down the Hatch 8" on DVD and also found it to be an excellent movie. Just curious, what was it about the movie that makes you hold it in such high regard Brandon? My personal faves from that DVD, Shyla, Lexi Lane and Alisha Lopez. Definitely a classic title.
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I think Kylie felt she would let some other lucky girl marinate in the juices. I am cool with it. Wait till you see who's in Vol. 6 of BAKER'S DOZEN. All will be forgiven then...
Nietzsche, do you get the feeling that American porn actresses see the popularity of the Japanese cum drinking movies, the enthusiasm the girls have for drinking as much as they do, and just cringe? Because they see how popular this niche has become in the states, even though the quanity of semen consumed is DRASTICALLY less, and probably like A2M & A2OGM, fearfully think that since this is the direction viewer demand is leaning, they, the more established actresses, and even the girls who aspire to work in the business, may eventually have to submit to doing it if they want to be noticed. The more extreme the act is, the harder it is for them to pretend they really enjoy doing it, which, realistically, is what the fantasy element of porn is all about. Again, realistically, I'm quite sure that the percentage of girls who genuinely crave and lust for drinking one hundred-plus helpings of semen is probably equal to how many girls genuinely crave sucking a dick that's just been in another girls rectum, right? and that percentage is likely non existent. The only girls doing it are doing it for $. Be that as it may, there will never, I repeat, NEVER, be an American girl cheerfully gulping down one hundred plus loads. Look at Brandon's movies, they require like two or three scenes just to choke down fifteen or twenty five loads. They do this because in reality, they HATE it, and simply couldn't get all twenty five or whatever number down in one setting without puking. I mean, look at Maggie Star, the girl who drank fifty five loads, she puked, and most of those men had extremely thin and watery loads. You don't see her jumping up and down to do another scene like that, and no one's apparently even WILLING to try and top it - it has NOTHING to do with finding enough men to donate, it has EVERYTHING to do with finding a girl who doesn't say NO FUCKING WAY! I am curious about AB#25, some say Bianca? swallows most of the cum but no one has come right out and said one way or the other. I'm guessing it's a typical AB ruse where they rely on the swallowing hype to increase sales, when actually she probably doesn't swallow much of it all.
I am sure that all girls are worried that they will have to do more extreme acts in the future. However, to be fair to the American girls, I am not convinced that Japanese girls are really swallowing over 100 shots.
I have been spending the last few weeks taking out my dvds from their original cases and putting them into storage binders. I found one of the uncensored bukkake dvds where it clearly shows the guys using tubes to cum on the girl. If there were the censored blocks over the guys dicks you would not noticed the tubes. The movie is called "DY 06 Bukkake Gangbang".
Now I am sure that the people who want to believe that bukkake movies are real are going to say "just because one studio uses the tubes doesnt mean they all do". Which is true, however if you compare the movements of the guys that use the tubes, to the movements of the guys in the censored films, they are often the same. A guy walks into camera view with his hand on his dick, dumps his load, then walks out of camera view still holding his dick. When I saw how similar the movements were, I threw out all my censored bukkake films. It is also my opinion that is how they are getting such high numbers is that its the same guys over and over refilling the tubes.
Nietzsche, if you want my copy of Bukkake Gangbang email your address to MisterNoGood@my.adultdvdtalk.com and I will mail it to you free.
Posted - May 15 2005 : 4:00PM