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backdoorman
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Posted - Nov 24 2007 : 4:01PM
Art the titles sold there legal here?
Joey Starr
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Posted - Nov 24 2007 : 4:03PM
Where?
backdoorman
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Posted - Nov 24 2007 : 4:11PM
At Orgazmik Europe.
rogrtipe
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Posted - Nov 24 2007 : 4:15PM
You would probably have to check with a lawyer to be sure, but I would imagine that ordering them in the US would be against the law.
Traci's movies are illegal in the US so regardless of where you ordered them, purchasing/owning them could be a problem.
Is ordering Cuban cigars a crime?
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Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 24 2007 : 5:55PM
There's one Traci Lords title that IS NOT illegal. It was shot in Europe after she turned 18. I'm not sure if it's currently available, but it was released as "Traci I Love You" by Caballero Pictures.
 
Joey Starr
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Posted - Nov 25 2007 : 3:06PM
Yes otherwise they wouldn't sell them. They are legal all over Europe,pretty much...
Joey Starr
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Posted - Nov 25 2007 : 3:06PM
And it stinks, probably her worst.
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9/07
Posted - Nov 26 2007 : 2:39PM
The real issue on underage Traci tapes is the quality. I know someone who somehow had a few tapes that were purchased legally in Canada. The problem was they were copies of copies of copies. Quality was very poor to say the least.
conquistador
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10/03
Posted - Nov 26 2007 : 5:00PM
^^^^
The only Traci Lords movie that is legal in Canada is the same one as in the US.
Your friend bought illegal tapes, which explains why they were several generation old bootleg copies.
Don't believe me? Call a few Canadian distributors and ask if they sell Traci Lords stuff.
Noriinrad
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3/05
Posted - Nov 26 2007 : 6:55PM
So is the version of the only legal Traci Lords movie - Traci, I love You - in better condition than the illegal movies in canada or europe?
I understand selling and buying her videos here in the U.S. is illegal. But is buying them from a european or canadian distributor and having them mailed here to the U.S. illegal as well?
conquistador
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10/03
Posted - Nov 26 2007 : 7:13PM
The Canadian laws are very similar to the US ones, You can't order any underage porn from Canada, at least not "over the counter".
Also I am sure that you won't find any Canadian company that claims to have it.
If anything you might be able to find that stuff by wandering into porn shops in Canada and asking about it. Very well it might be sold from behind the counter in some places. Even so it is not legal in Canada and, once you acquire it, if you got caught taking it across the border the consequences would be severe.
I am not doubting you can find Traci Lords material, just that it isn't legal in North America, Canada is not Europe.
backdoorman
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Posted - Nov 26 2007 : 9:41PM
They have several of her movies at O.E. Some of them are on triple feature disks. Now here's kicker. I have found many movies on E-bay with an actress known as Nora K. Guess who?
I emailed a guy about the legality of said movies and he said he had been selling them for years with no problems. I haven't nor do I intend to buy any of them but I find this very curious indeed.
Bulk Mailman
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 7:41AM
conquistador
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 7:45AM
^^^^^ Interesting find. Thanks.
Everett
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 12:21PM
last I heard Traci was pregnant. This was much earlier this year so she must be near due date if she hasn't deliverd by now.
 
budtugley
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 3:32PM
I started collecting porn in 1984 and I own a few of Tracy Lord's videos on VHS. I also own the Penthouse where she was the centerfold.
When I bought them they were legal but afterwards, when Tracy was discovered to be underage, her videos were declared to be 'kiddie porn' and they are now illegal.
There is a legal concept called, 'Ex Post Facto' which means 'after the fact' and it's used when prosecutors try offenders who did something that was legal at the time but was subsequently declared to be illegal. 'We don't like what you did so we made a law against it and now we're going to prosecute you.'
Imagine if you live in a state that has a .1 presumed to be drunk law and a driver blows a .09. The offender will still receive some citation, most likely he/she was pulled over for some offense, but drunk driving won't be one of them. Then, the legislature passes a .08 drunk driving law the next week and they try to prosecute you under the new law. At the time of the offense, the law was .1 and that applies, not the 'after the fact' new law that was passed.
I don't know for certain if those videos which were legal when I bought them, can get me prosecuted. I'm certain they can be confiscated but I'm not too sure about the legality of ownership.
By the way, the passage of time has taken it's toll on those videos. They are much darker now, the videos were OK when they were newer but now it's harder to view them as the picture has deteriorated noticably. I never did try to transfer them to DVD, and I've never transferred any of the 2500 or so VHS videos I own onto DVD.
I wonder about the legality of that.
Everett
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 6:14PM
Bud I dont want to sound authoritative but you might have wanted to keep that info to yourself. After all, you never know who's reading these threads. Ilregards of the "...after the fact".
morbidthoughts All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 7:45PM
It's not ex-post facto. The law didn't change. Possession was illegal back then too. People just didn't know the facts at the time.
If you continue to possess the tapes, you are possessing child pornography and can be prosecuted for it.
morbidthoughts All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 7:50PM
You might not consider it a part of Canada, but you can buy underage Traci Lords movies in Quebec. At least during the 90s. They just never excised her scenes from the vhs movies. I don't know what it's like now in the DVD age.
conquistador
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Posted - Nov 27 2007 : 7:56PM
I am not doubting any of it. Just because a person can buy something doesn't necessarily make it legal in the technical sense.
I haven't checked recently but as of about 3 years ago I know of at least 2 porn shops in Toronto where you can buy underage Traci Lords movies (on VHS). It still isn't "legal" here and never made it past the Ontario Film Review Board and never would.
It may seem legal simply because, for the powers that be it is not worth their effort to stop sales of crappy bootleg tapes when they could go after Max Hardcore videos (for instance).
EDIT needed comma
Edited by - conquistador on 11/27/2007 7:57:42 PM



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