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All Forums > The Porn Pool > The Porn Pool Forum Page 798 > TRANSFERRING VHS PORN TO VCD
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whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 10:49AM
HI EVERYONE

i have a very large collection of vhs pal porn vids
well over 150 tapes now.

i wondered how safe it would be to transfer my collection to vcd, with a vid capture card, burner, and appropriate software.

what would the finished copy quality be like?

iam wary as i find vcds and dvds delicate things, very easy to mark and even small scratches my multi region cyberhome
dvd player seems to freeze, or jump, it plays normal cinema dvds perfectly,

also the porn transfers to dvd seem sub standard often
and my biggest bug bear especially with u.s. studios
is the lighting does anyone agree about the lighting
nothing worse than seeing a scene ruined by poor lighting i think.

CHEERS WHITESTAR.

MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 11:06AM
Being one who is an educated professional in such matters. I am very sensitive to the lighting of scenes as well. Bad lighting really does bring down a scene for me. On the other hand, good artistic lighting and cinematography / videography can really enhance a scene for me (I like a lot of Michael Raven's stuff for this reason). So ... you're not alone in feeling that way. All in all, most sex speaks for itself. It doesn't need anything fancy, but I would sure like to see it clearly. :)

MLyons

whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 11:21AM
well said!!

i would love to get into the porn business over here
i would show them how to direct and light properly
well i edit all my tapes how hard can it be haha!!

even my camcorder a sony vhs (good one) with top spotlight
seems to be adequate, how come top studios mess this up constantly, isnt the director erm!!! directing, and the lighting guy erm!! supervising the lighting, doh!!!


CHEERS WHITESTAR.

SQUIDMONKEY
Ass Lord

446 Posts
8/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 11:49AM
Whitestar

Sorry that this is really off the original topic, but I am after a similar camncorder like you explained. How much would be to get hold of one over here in the UK??? and how much you reckon second hand??

I too want to make filth films.

SQUIDMONKEY

pornlord
Member

213 Posts
4/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 11:50AM
Hello whitestar
If you can get your hands on the September issue of computer shopper.co.uk (issue 175), or go to their web site, there is an article on your question. The writer, Phil South recommends the Dazzle digital video creator, costing under £200.00 it can digitise Mpeg 1 & 2 in real time from any video output.
I would be interested if anyone has used one or knows of anything similar.


Edited by - pornlord on Sep 16 2002

 
aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 12:26PM
First off, welcome to the forum whitestar.

I have transferred many tapes to VCD. It is a tedious process until you get the knack of it. I have found that the easiest way to do this is with Nero and it's VCD authoring plugin. In effect, you need to use your capture software to create MPEG files of appropriate characteristics for VCD (or SVCD). I am not sure of the PAL requirements, so I will let you get them from Nero's help file. Also, if there is an issue with protection on the tape (e.g. Macrovision) you will need to clean up the signal prior to capture (with a Video Clarifier for example). Once the capture is complete, you suck the MPEG file directly into a Nero VCD project and let it chew... for a long while (depends on processor speed, but 12-18 hours is not abnormal). Then, voila, Nero creates the VCD.

I have had no problems with playing the VCD discs, but many DVD players seem to have problems with the SVCD discs.

If you use VCD mode, you will find 2 sets of errors contributing to your overall viewing displeasure: 1) Original errors from the VHS tape (chromatic problems, banding, jitter, etc), and 2) there will be the blockiness introduced from MPEG encoding.

My opinion is that this process is worthwhile for rare, out of print titles that you cannot purchase on DVD. If, however, the DVD is available, I believe the better way to go is to sell your tapes on ebay and buy the DVDs. Far better quality with no hassle.

Hope this helps.

snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 1:59PM

IMHO, it is not worth the effort. Especially with a capture card. I tried this, and it was just a big pain in the butt. It was difficult to get it working without dropping frames no matter what, even on a fairly fast computer with plenty of memory and a big hard drive.

A much better solution was using my Sony D8 Handycam to convert to DV format on the fly, and then capture it to AVI format. You could also use a specialized device to do the same thing.

Either way you do it, it is time consuming to convert the AVI to MPEG-1 or MPEG-2. I got the best results with TMPGE but on higher or highest quality settings, it takes about 10-20 hours. It is also a steep learning curve.

If you are really serious about converting your material without a lot of fuss, purchase a Panasonic E-20 or E-30 standalone DVD burner. This puppy will give you much better results without all the hassle discussed above. If you are concerned about DVDs being fragile, burn two copies and store one away for safekeeping.

-- Snowman

whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 2:18PM
A much better solution was using my Sony D8 Handycam to convert to DV format on the fly, and then capture it to AVI format. You could also use a specialized device to do the same thing.
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hi there please can you explain what i have to do, i have a sony hi8 handycam, how do i convert to digital video format
you dont mean put on the telly and film the picture do you
sorry to be such a klutz.

advice would be very helpful.


CHEERS WHITESTAR.

whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 2:31PM
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Dr. Mabuse
Member

261 Posts
4/02
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 3:18PM
It might not help with the equipment you're using, but here's what I've done.

1) Record VHS into my DV camera.

2) Use firewire connection to import video into my iMac...say what you will, but the iMac is cost effective for amateur video editing. It works 10 hex better than any PC capture device I've messed with. Plus you don't lose any quality or have to worry about dropped frames.

3) I use Toast 5.0 to make VCDs. It takes the imported video footage and converts it to MPEG-1. Like aybesea said, it takes several hours to do this. Once the file is ready, you can burn it to a CD. The end result isn't very impressive and usually exhibits a fair amount of pixelation, but it's still watchable. I plan to use the same process once I get a DVD-R. That should yield much better results.

If you're using a Hi-8 format and want to convert to digital, Sony makes a device to convert analog video to digital. There are two models DVMC-DA1 and the DVMC-DA2. You can usually find them for sale on Ebay. They sell for around $200-$300. I've never used one but was considering it before I bought my DV camera.

My overall opinion: Skip VCD and wait till you can convert your tapes to DVD.

snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - Sep 16 2002 : 3:32PM
I have an inexpensive Sony Digital 8 model (TRV-120). It has analog jacks where you can plug in a VCR and record the program to digital tape. But, you don't have to record the analog signal. It is possible to just use the camera as an on the fly converter to DV and output the DV signal to firewire. You can plug the firewire cable into your computer and capture the DV signal with software such as Adobe Premier, Vegas Video, Ulead Moviemaker etc.

I don't believe that Sony makes the stand alone conversion boxes another person mentioned anymore, however several other companies do.

-- Snowman

Rumplestilt Skin
Deactivated User

931 Posts
7/02
Posted - Sep 17 2002 : 7:58AM
What happens if the original video has been watched so much, the picture is unstable?
Obviously, you couldn't copy these?
SQUIDMONKEY
Ass Lord

446 Posts
8/02
Posted - Sep 17 2002 : 9:26AM
Whitestar

Many Thanks for that!! I think I will have to look into purchasing one of those. It would be damn handy for all sorts of situations!!

Another question though. What equipment do you use to edit?? I'm curious

SQUIDMONKEY

paraglider
Deactivated User

44 Posts
9/01
Posted - Sep 17 2002 : 9:56AM
Rumplestilt Skin, that is the problem I had. The capture software I used gave up capturing when there was noise on the tape. The whole process became tedious. The conversion from one MPEG format to an acceptable format used by VCDs took 12 plus hours.

look at www.vcdhelper.com for help in vcd creation.

whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Sep 17 2002 : 11:36AM
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Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 17 2002 : 11:48AM
I'm going to close this thread for a couple of reasons:

- The consensus seems to be that it's technically challenging, time consuming, and expensive (meaning that you need a fast PC, capture card or digital interface, and commercial editing software) to transfer VHS to VCD.

- There's a lot of information already shared in the thread, and I suspect the contributors would be willing to answer further questions via e-mail.

- It's a sticky legal subject when it comes to copying/archiving/duplicating copyrighted works, especially since studios and content creators are active participants in the forum. There is a precedent for closing threads dealing with such topics.

- There are plenty of resources on the Internet with tutorials, FAQs, and information on products. I suggest doing a Google search to find what you're looking for.

Thanks,

- Saki

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