Two issues I have with Sasha Grey (page 2)

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Master Bates Member Toronto 71 Posts 4/03	Posted - Oct 3 2006 : 11:37PM Tanning in this day and age causes cancer, my future wife must be healthy! [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:50AM Well, we'll all probably just have to wait and see how this plays itself out. My guess is that licking sperm off a floor will eventually be rejected as some kind of neo feminist statement and instead be recognized for what it is - degrading. [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:51AM Midtown wrote: Well, we'll all probably just have to wait and see how this plays itself out. My guess is that licking sperm off a floor will eventually be rejected as some kind of neo feminist statement and instead be recognized for what it is - degrading. Click to expand What movie did she do this in? My credit card awaits. [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:54AM nietzsche wrote: Midtown wrote: Well, we'll all probably just have to wait and see how this plays itself out. My guess is that licking sperm off a floor will eventually be rejected as some kind of neo feminist statement and instead be recognized for what it is - degrading. Click to expand What movie did she do this in? My credit card awaits. Click to expand The movie I had the misfortune of watching - Fuck Slaves. I knew I should have rented the Jenna Haze flick instead. Edited by - Midtown on 10/4/2006 12:58:29 AM [Link]

Michael Saint Photographer Alexis Texas is always lovely 1062 Posts 2/01	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 1:00AM You know I often wonder why people (and I may have even done it myself) start threads like this. I found Sasha's response eloquent but the responses from some of you I found disturbing and not exactly what I would expect from people on ADT. Personally I would like to see more of Sasha in a movie filmed like Fashionistas Safado. The line of her neck, her eyes and the way she carries herself all say elegance to me and it is not wrong to wish to see a movie that shows that in her. Plus I would like to see her act. Have not seen that yet but I get the impression she could carry it off easily and well. Though I understand if that is not something Sasha wants to do right now. I will leave you with one thought: It is not what you do but how you feel about what you do that matters. [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 1:05AM Just curious. What did you expect from a movie called "Fuck Slaves"? Did you examine the box cover first? Evil Angel and Jake Malone are not exactly whatcha call "coy." I've really only watched Sasha and Adrianna's scenes, but it sure looked to me like they were having crazy orgasmic pleasure. I don't think either of these intelligent, attractive young women would rather be working at Starbucks. And they appear to be firmly in charge of their destinies. Should they not be free, in this great nation of ours, to lick sperm off the floor if they want and be paid extravagantly well for it? [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 1:13AM lee_carver wrote: You know I often wonder why people (and I may have even done it myself) start threads like this. Click to expand Like I said at the outset - this thread was not intended as a personal affront to anyone. I started this thread because I wanted to express my conviction that porn is headed down a very disturbing path. It wasn't that long ago that porn was Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler - in that order - in terms of raciness. Looking back, it all seems rather tame in comparison to what is being depicted these days. A couple of months back, I was at the barber shop and I overheard some guy talking about how many things had become messed up in this country. I found it particularly amusing when he said "they even managed to mess up porn." With regard to what I expected from a movie titled "Fuck Slaves," I wasn't quite sure what to expect. Titles of porn flicks have always run the gamut from serious to humorous. I rented it because I'd heard a lot about this girl Sasha Grey. I see now why she is gaining fame, or more accurately said, infamy. Edited by - Midtown on 10/4/2006 1:25:13 AM [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 1:19AM Sasha - I LOVE your skintone. There was a time when people used to call it porcelain, not pasty. Besides, it perfectly complements your dark hair. You have possibly the most flawless skin of any current porn girl. As for your sexuality, you already know how in awe I am of you. There are people who like tamer sex and have no need and certainly no desire for rough sex. That's fine, and I don't 'judge' them. I don't consider them lame... they simply like different things than me. However, I am offended that they would judge the type of sex that I enjoy and seek out just because they don't understand it. As a producer, I'm the one who would be defending a movie like Fuck Slaves. And as a woman exploring her sexuality, I'll be the one enjoying this kind of sexual challenge. [Link]
10000 days Deactivated User Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ... 717 Posts 3/06	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 1:25AM I have never seen a thread so filled to the brim with strawmen! But I am genuinely impressed by the intelligent young lady. Hey, she made a porn mission statement. That's gotta be worth something! I won't be watching many of your scenes (if any), but I certainly admire your beauty and your passion. [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 2:18AM 10000 days wrote: I have never seen a thread so filled to the brim with strawmen! Click to expand Welcome to the board! [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 3:11AM 10000 days wrote: I have never seen a thread so filled to the brim with strawmen! Click to expand Now, that's funny. [Link]
Bandit One Deactivated User No Place That Far 612 Posts 9/02	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 3:32AM Aw, fuck it! Edited by - Bandit One on 10/4/2006 3:44:20 AM [Link]
jake malone Member 530 Posts 1/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 4:43AM john thomas wrote: Sasha belongs to the night. And, though there are doubtless some misogynists in porn, the idea that Jake Malone and Manuel Ferrara can be counted among them is, frankly, laughable. Both men clearly love and respect women. That doesn't stop them (quite the reverse indeed) from playing out roles and situations that allow some illumination into those darker corners of the vast mansion of human sexual experience, into the heart of the terrible beauty of human desire. Click to expand The "vast mansion of human sexual experience" indeed Mr Thomas. But sadly, not all of us live in, or have access to, or can even conceive of the "vast mansion". Some will be stuck forever residing in a very small, windowless, claustrophobic, (sex-phobic, experience-phobic, adventure-phobic) porta-potty. The door is locked. There will be no coming or going. No laughter. No fun. No enlightenment. And the vile, putrid smell of intolerance chokes the life out of all who live there. Luckily for us, Sasha "belongs to the night". Midtown, you " rented Fuck Slaves.....and didn't know the premise"?????? I refuse to believe that you are THAT stupid! Oh, I get it... ...you're just spoiling for a fight ....with a girl.?? Well, big guy, you just went head to head with a beautiful, pale skinned, eighteen year old girl, and she kicked your punk ass up and down the block. Deal with it. [Link]
deicide Member Killer of the Gods! 88 Posts 7/06	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 6:16AM Midtown wrote: Like I said at the outset - this thread was not intended as a personal affront to anyone. I started this thread because I wanted to express my conviction that porn is headed down a very disturbing path. It wasn't that long ago that porn was Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler - in that order - in terms of raciness. Looking back, it all seems rather tame in comparison to what is being depicted these days. A couple of months back, I was at the barber shop and I overheard some guy talking about how many things had become messed up in this country. I found it particularly amusing when he said "they even managed to mess up porn." With regard to what I expected from a movie titled "Fuck Slaves," I wasn't quite sure what to expect. Titles of porn flicks have always run the gamut from serious to humorous. I rented it because I'd heard a lot about this girl Sasha Grey. I see now why she is gaining fame, or more accurately said, infamy. Edited by - Midtown on 10/4/2006 1:25:13 AM Click to expand What a sheltered life you must lead. To make a statement that porn is heading down a disturbing path. Just off the top of my head here, Caballero, Color Climax, Alpha Blue and Alpha France, VCA, and many others. All these studio's were making rough sex video's back in the 70's. Some which depict alot harder stuff than I have seen Sasha, Belladonna, or Julie Knight do up to this point. Hell at least 3 of those studios were make fantasy rape videos back in the 70's. So for you to say that Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler were all that there was in terms of raciness really shows your ignorance about the history of the porn business. Hell I think about half the scenes that Jamie Gillis was in from the mid 70's through the early 80's were alot more disturbing than anything I have seen lately. Harry Reems also deserves an honorable mention as well(Forced Entry (1972),Sex Wish (1976)). And also why single Sasha out when many other women have been doing the same types of scenes for more then a few years now. Such as Belladonna, Julie Knight, Mason Storm, and many others. "It sometimes happens in the realm of the stars that two suns determine the orbit of a planet, and in some cases suns of different colours cast their lights around a single planet, sometimes red light, sometimes green light, and then again lighting it both at once, flooding it with colours. In the same way we modern men, thanks to the complicated mechanics of our "starry heaven," are determined by different moralities—our actions change their lights into different colours. They are rarely unambiguous. And there are enough cases where our actions have many colours." -Friedrich Nietzsche -deicide [Link]

Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 8:12AM Unfortunately, you're in the minority here. Anyone who doesn't watch porn, like the dirtbags in government whom you so often apply to the situation,...well, their opinion doesn't matter. Midtown wrote: Well, we'll all probably just have to wait and see how this plays itself out. My guess is that licking sperm off a floor will eventually be rejected as some kind of neo feminist statement and instead be recognized for what it is - degrading. Click to expand Jake & JT, I thought I was gonna shed a tear. My angst toward the closet-minded halfwits in this situation usually precludes my ability to flow as the both of you have! jake malone wrote: But sadly, not all of us live in, or have access to, or can even conceive of the "vast mansion". Some will be stuck forever residing in a very small, windowless, claustrophobic, (sex-phobic, experience-phobic, adventure-phobic) porta-potty. Click to expand Edited by - Eric381 on 10/4/2006 8:18:57 AM [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 8:49AM Probably time to dig up all the old Mason threads now, huh? [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 11:35AM Well, one thing's for sure. People who are into bizarre porn appear to be quite passionate about it. Personally, I just don't see the appeal of it. People can call it "fantasy" and whatnot, but I'll never agree with dragging women around on leashes, slapping and punching them, and then raping them. There is no merit in these kinds of depictions. Furthermore, I hope those who are aroused by this type of material seek therapy/treatment before possibly acting on what they are exposing themselves to. [Link]
MrFuckinSunshine Member I read your blog you magnificent bastard! 274 Posts 12/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 11:52AM (I yank shovel out of midtown's hand) Stop digging man! You said your piece and there are those who agree with you and those who don't. You might as well argue religion or politics because you have just as bad a chance of converting anyone on those issues too. As long as no one is really being hurt and it's all just role playing between consenting adults, it's all good IMHO. [Link]
loop Senior Member 1409 Posts 9/03	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:12PM tyrionthedwarf wrote: I can't really speak to the critique of her performance. However, I LOVE pale skin. Esp. pale skin with dark or black hair. The contrast is great. Which is not to say I don't love ladies of all skin and hair colors. Just that a pale skin and dark hair contrast (see Joanna Angel, amoung others) sets my heart racing. So Sasha (and other porn stars) if you are listening -- stay away from the tanning beds and bronzer! Pale skin is sexy! Click to expand +1000 i couldn't agree more. and sasha , if u want to really piss him off (midtown) say that you're going to have a new tatoo soon ... [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:24PM Ok that's enough. Edited by - bono-ONE on 10/4/2006 12:44:37 PM [Link]
ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:37PM Ok now you're just being rude and insulting. Go whine away on some other board man, cuz you won't find many people here who share your views. Most people on this board love and appreciate Sasha Grey's daring and experimental attitude towards porn, and love her for her love for pushing the boundaries when it comes to being nasty. Please don't bring Jenna haze into this discussion, and I am a huge fan and a friend of hers, and there's no need to bring her name into this retarded discussion. I'm sure she won't like it. Sasha also has one of the NICEST asses to ever appear in porn, very bubbly but not wide...very Teaganistic! Firm and round, so I suggest getting your eyes checked? [Link]
Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:38PM Dragging? I usually see crawling behind a simulated "master" figure (BDSM), but I can't recall ever seeing anyone "dragged"...such as, AGAINST THEIR WILL? Nor do I recall, outside of the donkey punch series (which I don't watch), anyone ever getting decked, punched, maimed or beaten to a point. Why? Because, 1) I don't watch that kind of porn, and 2) it's a very small minority within the industry as a whole, IMO. An argument could easily be made when law questions such acts that a single bad apple can NOT mean the immediate destruction of the entire cart. Rough sex exists in many non-porn affiliated sex lives, I'm sure. So seeing it on screen, to those "willing & consenting adults" who view it,...it should be no problem either. Like the radio, you have the right & ability to turn it off. It's not Chinese Water Torture. Your words of advice, I think to most sane porn fans, should go completely unnoticed. The vast majority of porn fans aren't in kindergarten either. It sounds as if you're more worried about a society that acts out violence based on watching a simple porn flick. I think I'd be more ALOT MORE worried about the closet perv who runs around town in a trench coat flashing people, than I'd worry about the occasional nitwit who goes around nonconsentually punching girls in the back of the head while giving her some doggie. Midtown wrote: People can call it "fantasy" and whatnot, but I'll never agree with dragging women around on leashes, slapping and punching them, and then raping them. There is no merit in these kinds of depictions. Furthermore, I hope those who are aroused by this type of material seek therapy/treatment before possibly acting on what they are exposing themselves to. Click to expand [Link]
ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05	Posted - Oct 4 2006 : 12:44PM Damn Eric and I agreeing on something, now YOU KNOW how wrong that Midtown guy is hahaaa. [Link]