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All Forums > Tech Talk > Tech Talk Forum Page 49 > Umlaute: ä, ü, ö
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juha
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3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 11:47AM
Just curious, why can I use these "Umlaute" on an American forum?
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 11:59AM
Why not?
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 12:11PM
Sheessh, give people something extra and they complain...

lol

Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 12:13PM
You can use a lot of different characters in the forum, like the German double S (ß), the Icelandic th-ligature (Þ), the French oe (Œ, œ), the Danish/Norwegian ae (Æ, æ), oe (Ø, ø) and aa (Å, å) ...
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 1:59PM
Didn't complain.

Just wonder why it works.
Because in my email-programme it doesn't work.

 
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 2:01PM
Well, the "ß" is not a double "s", it's a "sz".

juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 2:03PM
Of course. Doesn't hurt nobody.

As I said, I was just curious.
Although it's not of real importance.

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

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1/04
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 2:19PM
Browsers are expected to understand lots of encodings, including, I think, Microsoft's and most of the ISO and Unicode ones.

Perhaps even today, not all email proggies are quite as good at that, though I haven't had problems with it for years.

What email program do you use?

Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 2:34PM
Yes, I know that it's called Eszett but it's often replaced by ss - Preußen (Prussia) for instance is written Preussen here in Denmark*, and Switzerland and Liechtenstein have officially abolished ß and replaced it with ss.
And because of the 1996 German spelling reform Rußland (Russia) is now spelled Russland.

Wikipedia on the ß.

*) Sometimes it's spelled Prøjsen insted, but that's a different story

Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 2:39PM
There are still problems with some e-mail programs, not only the clients but also the distribution systems. There's a German bookstore that sends me newsletters in which they have to write fuer instead of für and Daenemark instead of Dänemark (Denmark).
Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 2:58PM
Haven't all MTA's worth their salt been 8-bit clean for about ten years now?
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 4:35PM
Yes, that's true.
Also "daß" is no written "dass".
How come you know our language so good?
Even the latest spelling reform?
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 4:40PM
Thanks, Kperv.
I'm a bit old-fashioned. Still using Pegasus.
Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 5:14PM
Pegasus? There's a blast from the past. I remember using it at work yonks ago.

I think Pegasus still has a problem with anything beyond a basic subset of ISO-8859-1. There may be some Pegasus specific helper programs that can help.

OTOH, if poor international support is a real problem for you, it might be time to switch.
Thunderbird is nice.
Before switching to Linux, I preferred Eudora Mail. But that was back in the 90s so I don't know how well that holds up today.

Recent poll: Which E-mail software do you use?


BTW, I love your gently wistful avatar. Who is the beauty?

juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 5:50PM
Do you use Thunderbird?
I think I'll give it a try.

That's Maya Deren,
queen of experimental cinema. The image is from her classic MESHES OF THE AFTERNOON.

 
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 7:01AM
Yeah they ought to, but things take time..
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 7:03AM
Well, partly because I'm interested in German, partly because I've just read the Wikipedia article about the Eszett
Kperv
The Cuddler

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1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 11:38AM
No. But if I hadn't found another (Unix only) one, that's pretty much perfect for me, before Thunderbird came around, I would most likely be using Thunderbird now.
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 5:53PM
And since they're addressing me as "Sehr geehrter Herr ...", I can bear with their lack of a decent MTA
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 2:24AM
I was just playing, and Thunderbird works great for me.




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