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| struan Member  SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 |  Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 6:46AM(Only just found out about this; they seem to have sneaked it in during the run up to Christmas!) Hot on the heels of the UK & Scottish Government’s proposals to criminalise the possession of so-called ‘extreme porn’, the Scottish Parliament’s equal opportunities committee has accepted a petition from the pro-censorship, extremist (so-called) feminist pressure group ‘Scottish Women Against Pornography’ (S.W.A.P), which asserts that ALL adult porn should be considered incitement to hatred against women, and therefore outlawed. MelonFarmers (article titled “Nutters With hatred in mind…”
Cathy Jamieson MSP (Justice minister) – She would be responsible for the implementation of any legislation. Cathy.Jamieson.msp@scottish.parliament.uk Nichol Stephen MSP (Deputy First Minister, & leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats) Nicol.Stephen.msp@scottish.parliament.uk Patrick Harvie MSP (Scottish Green Party) – convenor of the cross-party working group on Human Rights.- Patrick.Harvie.msp@scottish.parliament.uk Brian Monteith MSP (Independent) – Has previously expressed opposition to the ‘extreme porn’ proposals, as he seemingly believes that adults should be free to view whatever (consensual adult) material they wish. Brian.Monteith.msp@scottish.parliament.uk
MSPs who are also Government ministers can also be contacted by emailing the following address and, presumably, putting it for the attention of the respective minister: scottish.ministers@scotland.gsi.gov.uk
The Scottish Government’s website
If you are lucky enough to live the in free world, please feel free to contact the Scottish authorities, perhaps to detail how adult entertainment is ‘regulated’ in your country etc. If any pornstar ADT members feel the urge to convey their feelings toward, & experiences of, the industry, please feel free. As usual, we are fighting an uphill struggle, but if we just sit back and do nothing, and S.W.A.P. get to impose their view on society at large, we could end up with the complete prohibition of ALL adult porn. As this petition first surfaced back in 2004, and was assumed to have ‘died a death’, but didn’t, as well as the biased comments from the committee’s convenor, this seems to be a potentially serious threat. Remember also, this is an election year in Scotland, when politicians are at their most ‘receptive’ to the concerns of the electorate, whatever side of the argument they are on.
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| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 8:56AM [Link] |
| gent82 New Member Great Britain 5 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 9:28AM I sure hope my so-called 'representatives' in the Welsh Assembly don't get any similar ideas. Knowing how illiberal and oppressive they and their Westminster counterparts can be, it's certainly possible. [Link] |
| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 11:42AM Adult porn is the greatest thing to happen to this world since, well... dracula! :) [Link] |
| night_lick Member 196 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 12:00PM their legislation passes. Downloading should do a brisk business there. [Link] |
| junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 12:51PM Wayne In Dallas [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 2:15PM [Link] |
| jackthetreacleeater Senior Member Shame on you! 2003 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 2:27PM Edited by - scipio on 1/19/2007 8:03:04 AM [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 5:50PM BTW, I agree entirely about how repressive & illiberal the UK has become, but it wasn’t exactly a liberal utopia under Thatcher’s regime (who is English, I hasten to add), now, was it?
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| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 6:11PM As for downloading, I'm not sure – If the 'extreme porn' proposals go through, mere possession will make people liable to (upto) 3 years in prison, whereas existing censorship concerns distribution of material, so you can (currently) possess whatever (adult) material you wish. It’s one thing to risk the (relatively anonymous) purchase of ‘offending material’ in ‘hard copy’ form on the ‘black market’, but another thing entirely to download it, given the lack of privacy involved (monitoring & retention of surfing habits, emails etc.) – you may as well sign your own arrest warrant! Edited by - struan on 1/13/2007 7:00:16 PM [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 6:26PM Click to expand We have the bastards on the run over here and hope the same for you guys. Click to expand Thanks for the encourgament. I assume that now that the Republicans have lost Congress & the Senate, there may be light at the end of the tunnel over there? Click to expand junglew wrote:My ancestors came from Scotland. Click to expand I'm guessing that you don't fancy a move to the 'old country', then?
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| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 6:31PM Too busy keeping his head down, I guess. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Jan 13 2007 : 6:57PM [Link] |
| jackthetreacleeater Senior Member Shame on you! 2003 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 4:01PM Edited by - scipio on 1/19/2007 8:05:16 AM [Link] |
| khyber Member 197 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 7:31PM It's always hard to get a conclusive argument for or against this, but this research (link below), suggests that watching porno causes a decrease in the number of rapes. [Link] |
| AlexPanzer Deactivated User 1593 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 7:41PM [Link] |
| scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 11:14PM Mod: Here's your warning, mate. Drop the bigoted language. Right now. [Link] |
| jackthetreacleeater Senior Member Shame on you! 2003 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 11:31AM [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 12:45PM smg4ever, it would be appreciated if you could please read the forum etiquette and try to abide by it when posting here. Adult DVD Talk is an international community with readers across Europe as well as the USA, and the language you are using in your posts, specifically comments such as "influx of Eastern European scum", are extremely offensive to many readers, and significantly detract from Struan's worthy attempt to highlight the topic with which the thread is concerned. Please stick to the topic in question. [Link] |
| chupacabras Member 161 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 7:01PM Edited by - scipio on 1/19/2007 8:06:23 AM [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14596 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 7:12PM [Link] |
| scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jan 19 2007 : 8:02AM After some discussion with some forum members, and because the topic is a worthy one for discussion, I've decided to unlock this topic, with the caveat that people don't act immaturely and stay on the topic without insulting one another. You know, like the rest of the topics on this board. With this in mind, I'm editing a number of posts to remove the offensive parts and argument, so that the topic may restart without new readers to it reacting to the closed issue of insults. There's already been someone warned, so I'm sure that person will respect the rules of this forum so that they may continue to be a happy member here. Having said that though, I'll thank all members of ADT who particpate in this thread to stay on topic and avoid insulting one another or anyone else. It's a pretty important issue for a number of ADT's members, and ceratinly of interest to those outside of Scotland. Derailment and insults will not be looked upon kindly. Thank you. scipio
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| Robbie Member 884 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 19 2007 : 9:58AM [Link] |
| Lexi Bardot Member 86 Posts 8/05 | Posted - Jan 19 2007 : 2:08PM [Link] |
| chupacabras Member 161 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Jan 20 2007 : 5:42AM Anyhoo, I don't think the Executive would be too keen to push this forward. I'm Scottish and live in one of the more conservative areas of Scotland, and even here i don't think they would get much public support for this. [Link] |
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| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 20 2007 : 5:54PM [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 20 2007 : 6:20PM “Elaine Smith, MSP for Coatbridge and Chryston, said: "We need to hear from academics who work in this field about whether they think pornography is harmful and how serious a problem it might be”. "We don't expect any of them to say it is a good thing so the next question will be what we can do about it. There are those who say it should be banned completely." I think it is better to potentially overreact now, by expressing opinions, submitting complaints, lobbying etc., before something happens; if any further momentum gets behind it, there could be no stopping it. [Link] |
| KaylanNicole_fan Member 542 Posts 2/06 | Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 1:19PM Well, I thought Europe and the world are moving into the future. But it seems we're moving backwards ! [Link] |
| stickybelly Member 16 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 7:07PM [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 27 2007 : 5:34AM The problem is, the ever smaller ‘moral minority’ just get ever more vocal in their attempts to impose their views on the rest of society; unfortunately, politicians keep listening to them . [Link] |
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