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trout bum
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 11:21PM
Having watched my share of both US and Euro XXX movies, I have started to compare how Euro movies differ in everything from the sex, the women, the locations, and how foreign studios shoot scenes differently then in the US.
Here are some my observations. First with Euro you can't worry about the language because eventually it's all about the sex.
I like Marc Dorcel. A lot of women he uses are sophisticated, knock down gorgeous, have natural tits, wear expensive clothes with garter belts and nylons (a huge turn on) and are shot in historic places in Europe. US movies all seem to use basically the same settings like a standard bedroom, or a California style house with a swimming pool. Boring. My favorite Dorcel actress was Clara Morgane an absolutely stunning women whose nipples got rock hard while fucking but no anal.
Private shoots in beautiful tropical ocean locations. The girls are hot and they love anal and DP.
Viv Thomas shoots mostly lesbian and the girls like Jo, Eve, Vera and all other girls are wholesome looking,have unbelievable bodies, real tits, and Viv's photography is absolutely the best. US film makers can definitely learn how to film the female body from him.
I am curious how others view Euro porn vs domestic porn and what are their likes and dislikes.

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Posted - May 16 2010 : 5:31PM
I'm with you with pretty much all you've written. As a whole, European female performers are sexier than American ones. Most in Europe keep their bodies with a natural look; excessive huge breasts implants, huge fake lips and ass are pretty rare but some have done it (Aletta Ocean). One DVD I bought and like is Dorcel Airlines, I really like Kate Jones & Suzie Diamond, Szilvia Lauren with no major surgery is so hot despite her age. Overall the Diva attitude complex is much less prevalent in Europe than in California porn. Finally, I like as well when they travel in the Caribbean to shoot in exotic location. I think European porn is better than California porn, the big advantage California has is the big money.
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Posted - May 16 2010 : 7:03PM
i dont know why american studios werent all over kate jones.I fould her so hot and also one of the most energetic performers I have ever seen.
european girls look at it more like a job. They dont care about image. They do IR, Gangbangs, Dp, etc.
Also, they have alot more storylines in euro porn but some I dont like because they have the incest/rape stuff which is dumb.
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Posted - May 16 2010 : 10:25PM
I like the old world locations euro's use like old estates in Paris and Budapest. The girls seem a little older (not all 18 years old) and I think look classier but are whores when the action gets going. I think there more emphasis on what the girls wear especially in the Dorcel flicks. They dress to the nines. I think Euro's are way more into expensive lingerie. I'll pass on pantyhose, give me a garter belt and black stockings any day. You don't see that as much in domestic movies.
One thing that sticks out in my mind when Euro girls are getting fucked, a lot of them sound the same. It's Uh Uh Ah Ah, like it's all dubbed from the same tracks. Must be because they don't know English. Am I right or wrong?
jbailes
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 12:27AM
I hear what you all our saying. Across the pond, the women are equally beautiful. Jade Laroche is my favorite euro-girl out there right now. The studios seem to focus more on eroticism, as opposed to US films where right out of the gate, it's "Let's fuck!". Backdrops/scenery is much nicer and not the same old thing. I will say that the euro male performers, on average, need to calm the hell down. They're like jackhammers. You can tell when the girl's not enjoying it and it kinda detracts from the scene. Dorcel and Daring are good studios. Sometimes, euro films can "kink up" a little too much, but I've been a fan of euro flicks since the days of Kelly Trump, Dolly Golden and Nathaly Dune.
 
ADT44
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 7:38AM
I prefer watching Euro movies over US movies as an Euro guy.
You're right, dorcel has beautiful euro fuck dolls in his movies. classy, nice shoes, nice expensive(looking)designer clothing. I think I even saw the famous red soled louboutins. That's definitely a plus as I like to see women wearing that in real life 2. I wouldn't be surprised to see them girls wearing some chanel, dior or lagerfeld (his own label).
The only thing that I truly hate about his movies, is that it's condom-porn. It's forbidden by law to shoot porn without condoms in France. I certainly, wanted to see virginie getting that DP without all them rubbers.
Lesbo porn, I don't watch. It isn't the thing that turns me on. (viv thomas).
Private is cool, but after viewing a couple of movies from them it becomes sort of more of the same ol same ol. Thin/slender model type males & females: ALL replaceable. It doesnt even matter anymore what their names are: I feel like a robot watching (eastern european/russian) models fuck. Nobody would know/notice if they'd die or just moved on in life. Females are just random replaceable no name/jane doe fuck slaves. And no fun watching small dicked bunny fucking TONI RIBAS again and again.
Same goes for rocco, he's cool and I love his movies very much, but honestly, the girls in his series are replaceable. It doesn't matter who they are. Again, sometimes it's like watching robots fuck or I'm the robot watching these people doing more of the same thing. Dubbed/synchronized porn is whack in every language. I hate it.
*ATTENTION*
If you're a fan/collector of rocco then keep away of the Evil angel releases.
Especially his older movies: they're cut/abridges in an unacceptable manner.
Complete scenes are missing in the US releases.
-Hair pulling & spitting.
-Pissing/watersports.
-Pushing girls heads in toilet bowls (rocco's trademark).
-Minor scat due to ATM/butt fucking.
-Barn scenes involving animals are mostly cut.
....among others
trout bum
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 10:21AM
Two of my Favorite french girls Clara Morgane and Virginie caprice. Unfortunately neither seem to be doing porn now.
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 11:42AM
10 years ago or so, I saw some Dorcel features that were pretty good, but it appears he's no longer directing and these newer films, though very slick, are not as good. And as mentioned, fake boobed performers are starting to creep into these more recent productions.
I'll be reviewing something that falls under the heading of "Marc Dorcel Fantasies," something called NYMPHO NURSES, which looks like something starring Black Angelika. Look for that review in the next week or so.
ADT44
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 12:41PM
Yes, the fun part of euro porn is also, that most girls can be ordered via an escort agency for about $185 per hour.
CIM/COB included. Anal €50 extra. So, if you're really horny for some of them, you can always look at the agencies web-sites regarding if & when they'll be in town.
There is like a little tour operator for most them Euro (private) girls. With U.S. porn girls/STARS, there is no such thing. I mean, you gos to me some MAJOR loser if you're gonna pay $1500 (regular rate) a hour for a prostitute/esort-industry girl, to have sex no matter how big your bank account is.
Stud_Rob
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 3:17PM
Trout you said it perfectly for me. It's so true most of the US settings are practically the same especially the gonzo films and internet sites. Dorcel is brilliant, Melissa Lauren was so fucking hot when she did films for them. One of my favourite euro directors is Mario Salieri, his films are amazing if you ask me. I love the dim lighting, sometimes black and white effect he uses and the different stories. Magnificent. Or magnifico!
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 3:27PM
Starting to see more and more Euro girls getting terrible boob jobs (Cindy Hope's boobs are now cross eyed. Nipples point in different directions) and tattoos. Terrible trend
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 3:36PM
European movies do differ from US movies, largely because they aren't directed or shot by the same people. Other than that, it is generally true that whatever you can find in the US you can find in Europe, and vice versa, though some of the kinkier German stuff would practically guarantee prosecution for obscenity.
I don't think I've seen much, if anything, on the amateur and fetish classes of European movies on these boards. It makes me wonder if people even realize they're out there.
Colombian-Canuck
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 5:06PM
I wonder what is the size of EU porn versus US porn.
Franco: Kate Jones is hot, despite her age 33, she's so cute! US studios like the blond surgically enhanced barbie look-a-like doll, Kate Jones doesn't fit this type. I love Kagney Linn Karter, don't get me wrong, but she fit this barbie doll type to perfection.
Trout Bum: The "Uh Uh Ah Ah" in Euro-porn is true, I think it's a language issue but I don't mind it. If they started to sex talk in Hungarian, Romanian or whatever, few of us would understand. When Monica Mattos does her thing, I like it because I understand but I can see how few Americans would get it. Still, it doesn't bother me and I doubt it bothers many. Clara Morgane quit porn a while back, she is doing TV work and also sings now. I find her with Melanie Coste and Linda Paris as my top sexiest French porn stars. Porn sets are pretty much porn companies personal shoot houses or hotel rooms. Europeans do hotels and shit but they go as well to the Caribbean, even Brazil to film.
Jbailes: Some male actors are like jackhammers, I don't like it and they seem set to hurt the girl, they do it to the top Euro stars too, something I think would never happen in the USA. Top US stars are too delicate and image obsessed to allow it. The erotic aspect is much more pushed in Europe whereas position sex is the greatest priority in the US. I like the erotic stuff more as it is something I can do myself and it seems more normal than weird super-gymnast-like sex positions.
ADT44: Condoms can be rarely noticeable, it does bother me but I can understand the reason for the french law (make condom wearing normal to porn viewers). While Euro girls do seem replaceable (it prevents the diva attitude from forming in them) I don't think we can say they seem to look the same type. The blond hair, huge balloon tits, nose job, lip jobs and the rest are more limited and seamless in Europe. For example, a girl like Suzie Diamond, is almost flat chested and yet in Dorcel Airlines she was so sexy. Are you sure when you say $185 per hour for top European stars, gee that's really low...
Torris: Cindy Hope's enhancements are terrible, I agree, Aletta Ocean looks completely different to how she was in Europe, bad too, she looks like Lela Star now. I think Euro girls see how much money Americans stars make so they go to the doctor in hopes of landing work in California. There are too many small tits stars in Europe to justify Cindy Hope getting big implants to satisfy a European demand for bigger tits.
Hardware: while each different genre in porn is done both in Europe and in the US, the main focus are different. To me its clear, US porn is more mechanical while in Europe films have more of an exquisite erotic feel. As a whole Euro DVD productions look better.
I wonder what pornstars have to say about the Euro-US comparison.
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 7:12PM
Columbian Canuck, Glad you pointed out these things about Euro porn. Euro movies a flat out more EROTIC then domestic flicks. It is sad that more euro girls seem to be getting boob jobs in the last few years. That is one of the reasons I liked euro movies. At least with smaller natural breasts when a girl is turned on they can get noticeably harder but with fake tits, they all look the same, just big and round with no shape. They're gross looking.
I don't recall if Viv Thomas shoots many girls with fake breasts. Does Viv shoot B/G movies anymore? The girls he uses are all beauty queens. They have beautiful faces and tight unbelievable bodies. The men he uses are equally handsome and fit. If your going to watch a guy fuck a beautiful women, its much more appealing if he looks like if he straight out of GQ Magazine.
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 7:46PM
Replaceable Vs. preventing the diva part. Very good point; I've never looked at it that way. It makes sense too from a directors P.O.V.
Especially with guys like rocco...the movies he makes are more of the one-man-show-type. Also clark, (private/dorcel to a lesser extent) seems to be more guy orientated in his movies, with the woman in a more submissive (fetish) fuck doll state. In this context it makes sense to work with replaceable girls, I guess. And with replaceable I mean, your typical slavic blonde/brunette female, who's name you don't care about, just whether or not she has a cute lil' hardbody and is nasty as fuck. I think I've just seen to many private/siffredi movies and met too many slavic girls over here in Europe to be able to notice the eastern european/russian "type". As to your question, yes, I am sure. I've seen many (read: lots of girls & most of them under a different alias) euro girls from rocco's/private's, clarks -and to a lesser extent- dorcels stables in escort portfolio's that aren't online completely. I've been with (de)francesca gallardo 3 times (the first time was after seeing a hot scene of her; I just picked up the phone and called the agency/mamasan. Instead of jerking off to her, she was rang my doorbell only 1 hour later; only in Europe....) I don't mind tellin this as Im certainly not the only one. It was just for fun's sake 'cause she happened to be in town and because it was so dirt cheap when compared to US prices. Her take out price was $250 (€200) a hour including CIM/COB/Anal (excluding private photos & Video: that's €100 extra). Although the last two times were $150 (€125). Now they seem to cash in on the higher end asking €250 a hour with a minimum of 2 hours :also read these old posts of mine: https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=59/topic_id=117810/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/117810.htm https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=2/topic_id=134598/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/134598.htm
I've also seen angelica black, tommy steel, tera bond, suzie diamond, mya diamond, veronika/verunka fasterova ( stopped escorting not so long ago) in the mamasans portfolio, and lastly boroka balls, if i'm not mistaken. If you flip through the book, you'll be amazed how much they look like each other, especially without make-up. They tend to receive in hotels, meaning doing incalls or out calls if they know you. Some agencies have even started buying up semi villa's and made it mystery brothels for their hooker- porn STARS. There is one near schiphol airport,('Dam), for instance, also one in the near neighborhood of Sheremetyevo Airport (Moscow). Some girls also work on their days off when they are in any given city, without letting the agency know (scary). I am NOT that much of a punter/monger (I prefer non-pros), so I can't tell you much about the service of all of these girls; you have to try for yourself. Can only tell ya that Veronika is as cute, hot & petite as on the photographs. But she has stopped from what I've heard. Ya know what the fun part is? If the same girls are visiting the US, they ask for 'bout $1500 at pamela peaks or some other porn STAR slash UTR (under the radar) agency.....ridiculous that there are actually guys paying such a big amount for any pussy. *SMDH*
Send me an e-mail if you want the telephone number of the mamasan...I could also give you the mobile number of (de)francesca gallardo & angelica black (her friend, I think), if you're interested.
Are you in Moscow, London; amsterdam,even athens (for god's sake) or any other european capital city as we speak?
Cheers!
 
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 8:36PM
They don't use the term IR in Europe.
It is not big deal in Europe.
I see Angel Dark is being used a lot more in the US lately.
That girl delivers everytime. A contract girl in the making if she improves her English.
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 8:38PM
I love checking out Euro girls as they are all "new" to me,i love some of the 21st Sextury titles for that very reason-and super clean anal scenes turn me on like hell.Please someone spike my drink with rohypnol and throw me in a room with Angelica Heart and Mellisa Sweet and Jessica Moore,i promise i wont press charges.
Colombian-Canuck
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 9:09PM
To Clara Morgane fans, a youtube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNOfP6ht8H4) where she promotes her music album back in 2007. She is still very sexy, nice voice!
Basically she was asked why at 19 did she decided to go into porn?
First she jokes that she was bored but then explain her state of mind at the time, she says that she grew up really square (clean), with strict parents (could not go out) and at 15 had a big teen crisis. She did not know how to funnel her energy and she did not know what career to choose. She met people in the biz and started porn at 19 shooting with her boyfriend, she liked doing what was forbidden in France. She wanted to be free and claim her body, she claims never to have felt like an actor and that she won't ever return in porn.
ADT44: I'm from Canada... $1500 per hour is ridiculous, I agree, especially with no guarantees that the pornstars will even perform well. I'm so jealous of your list of Euro stars you've met. I have questions to ask you, I'd like to email you, if you don't mind but your profile is private and I'm not too sure how to email you here...
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Posted - May 17 2010 : 10:54PM
luna stern did her first scene with a guy for andrea nobili and it was ir.
I always loved milly dabbraccio in italy.
Rossella Conti is my new favorite, thick body and boobs.
http://www.badjojo.com/504124/rossella-conti/
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/579233/Busty_Italian_Rossella_Conti_Anal
La Venere bianca was a milf in italy who did almost all ir. she was married to a black man too.
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Posted - May 18 2010 : 5:25PM
Hi, you can just e-mail me by clicking this icon next to my name (whether my profile is set on private or not):
icon_email.gifAlso, made my profile public again: you can now read any of my 1000 posts. (not that they are of any historic value, LOL). I ain't got nothing to hide.
It's not always set on private; only if some n00bie-asshole A.k.a. AFC (average frustrated chump) starts spamming me again. Which happens from time to time.
E-mail me any of your questions regarding my posts or regarding the aforementioned euro escorts.
I hope the ADT-system will forward your message to my e-mail properly, which is the case about 8/10 times; we'll see.
CyA.

Edited by - adt44 on 5/18/2010 5:54:45 PM

Colombian-Canuck
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Posted - May 18 2010 : 6:46PM
I did not know how to email, I thought with a private profile email was not possible, I'll email you.
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Posted - May 18 2010 : 7:39PM
The reason why all American porn looks like it was shot in California mansions is because California is the only state you can legally shoot porn in. If the film crew and video company would not be facing prosecution in the other 49 states you would probably see a little more variety.
trout bum
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Posted - May 19 2010 : 8:42AM
What about Florida? Don't some companies like Reality Kings shoot their films in that state?

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They do, but they can be busted for it too.
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Posted - Jun 3 2010 : 8:16PM
Storylines which use many more location shoots and actresses that look more like real women rather than strippers with double D implants.
 
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Making porn is not risk free.



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