If true, thank you Hustler!
I guess Hustler forced them into it because sales went down.

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Edited by - bill on 10/9/2003 9:27:45 PM

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I consider any porn dvd with more than zero condom-scenes not worth my consideration. But that's just me...

Still, others here might want to know: how many bareback scenes?

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Consider me a prude, but I am actually less than thrilled to hear that VCA is apparently ditching their non-condom policy. I have seen so much gonzo lately that I realize that I really do prefer non-condom scenes, but I always liked that girls could go to VCA or Vivid if they didn't want to work bareback. I'm sad to see that that might be over now. I know they can still demand that they work with a condom, but now that will be harder for them.

Kelly

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Look for the governemnt to step in soon.

T.C.

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On another thought, Dellporn - Do you need help removing that thorn from your paw? All of your posts are either accusations of racism or disparage and defamation of performers/companies.

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PS - As you suggest, the law of unintended consequences hasn't stopped the gov'nmint yet.

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"Do girls who only want to work condom-only belong in this business? In my opinion they don't!"

It is just a difference of opinion. I think that girls who would rather work with condoms have a place in porn too.

Kelly

"Contrary to public opinion, I am not some sort of sex thing!" - Britney Spears

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I realize the girls can still go to Vivid. However, is that their only option now? I am just saying that I like that the girls have options. Now, it is becoming more and more that if you prefer condoms then you don't work. I do not think that is right. Again, it is just a difference of opinion.

It is all just the evolution of porn and a matter of what sells and what does not. I never actively supported the condom-only productions so I really have no feet to stand on here. However, I always liked that a girl like Renee LaRue, one of my favorite pornstars, could work with Wicked and Vivid and VCA and Wildlife consistently and not have to worry about her condom-only policy. In time, she gave way and began working without condoms, albeit after much deliberation. Ms. St. Claire was the same way. She was a condom-only girl for a while there but eventually that completely went away. Whether this came about due to a need to find work or just a personal choice I don't know. I just think it is better for porn to still have some semblence of the Golden Age era around with companies like VCA and Wicked churning out feature films, even if I am not a big fan of that kind of thing. By the same thought, I think it is good for the performers to have companies they can go to and not have to worry about making a decision about condoms. Now they just have Vivid.

Maybe I am behind the times or maybe there are other companies with condom-only policies that I am not aware of. To me, part of VCA's whole entire identity was that they were condom-only. Now that this might be over then they are just another company trying to keep up with the RedLights and PlatinumXs and Anabolics. Such is the way of capitalism.

Kelly

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Can you imagine telling Vanessa Chase you wouldn't shoot her because (hypothetically) she wouldn't do bareback? Christ, what a waste that would be.

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Personally, I can think of several problems at VCA that have nothing to do with condoms. However, since I don't have an insight into VCA's boardroom, I'm willing to admit that my thinking is pure speculation.

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As for Vivid, their bread and butter isn't new releases, it's compilations, isn't it? That being the case, wouldn't you agree that it's hard to judge the impact of new-title sales on their bottom line?

And finally, I've see RLD, Evil Angel, etc. sitting there gathering dust too (not as often, I'll grant you). It just depends on the locale and the titles.

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It's hard to judge things like new title sales because these are private companies, and they don't have to release sales figures. But it would be interesting to get ahold of that information.

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1) As some of you have noticed, VCA has changed its position on its condom-only policy. Except for occasional circustances, VCA is a non-condom company.

2) VCA will keep a commitment to high quality, but with edgier, harder-core sex. There are too many pure gonzo companies on the market, and VCA will be one of the few companies providing quality in both the sex and the production values.

3) There is no 'whites-only' policy at VCA. VCA has the Big Omar series, and there is no 'white-only' policy for U.S-based productions either.

Thanks, and please look out for some exciting developments at VCA.

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I know I am Kylie Ireland and you will all jump on the "you are were a contract girl, a lay there and fake it type, and a condom player" bandwagon, I suggest before you post your hate mail you visit the forum I have been posting in lately (Dion-Kylie Gangbang) to catch up on my real sexuality. Also feel free to visit the free side of my website - www.kylieireland.com - before you assume you know me. There is much more to Kylie Ireland than meets the eye.

Since it seems that no one is here to represent the talent's side of this I want to throw out a few thoughts.

More on Condoms….

When I came into the adult industry in 1994 the requirements for talent testing were a simple HIV test. Condom use was rare. During that time, in the first year of my career I did nearly 100 movies, not one with condoms. The bummer for many of my fans is that it was also in my earlier years that I didn’t do anal in any of my movies – not because I didn’t want to or didn’t like anal – it just wasn’t necessary for me to do it since I was working seven days a weeks doing normal sex scenes. Twist of Fate was my first on camera anal and was sans condom as well. It was shortly after this that there was a HIV “scare”. At this point most companies went condoms only, requiring their performers to use condoms in all their products. The rule stayed in effect for nearly five years – during which I went under exclusive contract with VCA Pictures, doing approximately 6 movies per year all including anal. It is because of this timing that there are very few movies of mine where I will be found performing anal sex without a condom. Timeless is one of the movies that was right before the “rule” where you’ll find me doing a condomless anal. After I left VCA in mid-2000 and went back to “freelancing” I continued on with the condom use partly because most of the companies I was working for still had in effect the condom only policy and partly for my own preference. For the most part scenes shot exclusively for my website will be without due to the fact that I require stringent testing as well as the fact that I personally trust and know well the talent I would tend to use. Some companies continue to uphold their condoms-only requirement, some have gone to a condom-optional policy and some have thrown the rule out the window all together (just for the record – all companies require a current [PCR-DNA] HIV test and STD test). I get many requests from fans to do scenes without condoms and what it all boils down to is that, hey, it’s my body and my life. Respect my decision. As for my current movie roles I judge the scene based on my comfort level.

Now, that is my opinion from a talent point of view. I also can clearly see all sides of the story here. From the viewer’s angle of things: if I am going to watch a porn movie I am doing so to create/fulfill a fantasy and believe me in my fantasies I don’t bother with condoms! Seeing that rubber ring as well as that floppy little reservoir tip can be an unwanted distraction. However, somewhere in the back of my mind I try to tell myself that it is good to know that the actors care enough to be concerned. From the companies angle: When the major companies first put into effect the condom-only rule there was not only an uproar from the fans but a drop in the foreign sales as well. In other countries, condom use in adult movies is virtually unheard of, therefore foreign distributors cut back on buying American-made condom-enforced movies. There was a lot of pressure from that alone. And understandably so. Kudos to the companies that stood their ground and supported the talent and their health, especially at the loss of an almighty dollar. Which brings us back around to the talent, who of course don’t like using condoms (who does?) but should care about their own health as well as their co-workers health. Besides what better people to support condom use than the people involved in making adult movies! All of this is why it is such a dilemma.

In addition, you all never hear about the cases of chlamydia and gonorreah that have been running rampant thoughtout the industry as of late. Despite the fact that STD tests are REQUIRED, performers, who will remain unnamed, are LYING and knowingly passing it on. As talent, you have to look out for number one, because no one else gives a shit.

Those are just MY thoughts, right or wrong isn't for anyone to say. All I wanted to do is point out that there is more than meets the eye here. I am not as upset about eveyone's comments about the movies and the condoms, just the lack of concern and respect for the girls out there busting their asses to get your cock hard.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Having said that, I agree that condoms have a very vocal group of detractors who aren't going to let a little thing like medical reality intrude upon their whacking fantasies.

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On a more serious note, WOOHOO Kylie's in the forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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I like posting in here, I think it is fun and I think that if the talent comes in and posts from time to time the public will get a clearer idea of who we are, what really goes on in the biz, plus they have the oppotunity to ask actual porn stars questions! Most of all I enjoy a good debate. If people have an opinion I want to hear it! If I don't agree with you I may debate back but I am not going to call you names.

What I don't understand is the need to cast stones....

Ah, well.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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If I understand the process, when hiring talent it is pretty well laid out what will, and what will not take place, including condom use. Papers are signed too to that effect.

If a performer signs up and agrees, and then later balks and says they changed their mind, you might have a point.

I have a DVD where in the behind the scenes they are doing the girl doggie, then the male performer pulls out and tries to stick it in her butt. She stops it and says anal was not what she had agreed to do. IMO that little bit should not have been put in the DVD. Was the producer (or performer or studio) trying to make her look like a complainer or a prima donna? I don't know for sure. But what came across to me was a bad image of the studio/producer/performer trying to push the scene where it was not agreed and intended to go, and it put them in a bad light not the girl.

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I am not all paranoid of doing scenes without condoms, remember that I was under contract with VCA during the condoms only policy so I was required to use them. There were often situations when I liked and trusted the talent I was working with (an example is my dream sequence in RAW - the three guy round and round anal scene) where I would have loved to not use those pesky condoms.

Isb4203 - you seem to think you know a lot about this industry but I assure you, you do not. No one except people who are physically active in it (directors, producers, crew, etc. not just talent) can actually understand how it really is. Furthermore, you don't know me, you are basing "Kylie Ireland" on a stereotype. I could do the same based on the things I have read about you, but I don't.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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I don't really have any comment about the condom thing, but I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents about your scene.

Thanks.

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As for the main topic of this thread, VCA initiated a "condom optional" policy about a year ago and before the recent management changes. We leave the use of condoms entirely up to the performers and on a scene to scene basis. Condom preference is not used to determine casting. We will cast the best performer for every role and will not deny a role to someone just because they prefer condoms. At this point, you might find a condom in 1 out every 8-10 scenes and rarely more than one in any movie.

As for Kylie, she is one of the most professional, personable and downright enjoyable people (both on and off camera) I have had the pleasure to work with in this industry.

As for the motives and future of VCA. We will continue dedicate ourselves, as we always have, to bring you the highest quality adult entertainment possible - in whatever format it takes.

Thank you all for your comments on this site, your input is invaluable to us.

Cheers,

Wit Maverick

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