Veronica Avluv (page 60)

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Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13	Posted - Sep 8 2017 : 3:40PM ^ Americans have a lot of expenses people in other developed countries don't, like paying for health insurance and higher education. We also have a lower minimum wage. [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 8 2017 : 6:36PM ^yes, also consumer spending and debt is way out of control here in North America. People buy stuff and things and even six figure income earners don't have savings programs. When someone is a single parent, living in an urban area, it adds up. Kids, health insurance, transport, cars, living expenses, so on. The fellow who brought up how many scenes she did and why she doesn't have rent money when her income stops for a period of time. Well, let's say she made 500 grand in 5 years. After taxes and expenses for her career, that is not a huge amount of money when raising kids in a big city. And, who knows what family is also being taken care of. It sounds like common sense to save money every month; in our culture, a lot of people don't do it due to the daily pressures of life. When the money comes in and you can do something nice for your kids, or take them for a 1000 dollar dental bill, or treat them to Disneyland or something; a savings plan can easily fall by the wayside. A porn performer is no different than the electrician who makes 100 grand a year or any other career for that matter. Some save , some don't. Life is not cheap in the big city. I understands peoples distaste for GoFundMe programs. There is a lot of lazy girls on there just trying to get a free lunch or live way above their means. However, Avluv is a well known performer who invested a lot into her fanbase. If she wants to ask her fans to assist her transition or hiatus from porn while she is a single parent, there is nothing wrong with that. People can chose to reward her for her performances and efforts with a parting gift, or not. For me, I received a lot of benefit from her shorching performances, her engagement here on the forum, and her willingness to invest her body and energy a lot more intensely than most performers. She gave every drop of energy into her career. She really pushed her body hard to perform at that level. Giving her a $50 parting "thank you" on a go fund me is a no brainer for me. Edited by - A_Fan on 9/8/2017 6:44:58 PM [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 1:30AM The least that any of Vee's followers and supporters could do was to help out a fantastic performer as she goes through a rough patch. Sadly I myself do not have a PayPal account but I have and always will give massive support in the form of words to help her through this bad time. Havoc answered all of the main questions further up the page. They were legitimate questions to ask. Havoc has more of an ear to Veronica than most of us here. So whatever the answers were must be taken as said. When you think of all of the legacy of fantastic scenes Veronica has given us with but now she is down on her luck we must return the favour and give her support whether it be through a GoFundMe page, which by the way is voluntary, or through words of encouragement and support. Not having a PayPal account I have done the latter. Amidst all of the bad luck Vee has had in the last few months the small piece of good news is that the target that was set on the GoFundMe page was reached and passed. One small technical point that anyone can answer regarding any GoFundMe page. I'd never heard of GoFundMe but just wondering. If a target is set and is reached and passed by say $400 what happens to the rest of the money ?. One would hope that money would still go to the person who set up the page?. If so anything over the $2,000 would be a welcome bonus for Vee and well deserved. [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 1:36AM ^the person gets everything as long as it breaks the target. Minus GoFundMe's service fee which is a percentage (not sure what but it is under 10%). There is a lot of abuse on GOFundMe and that is why a lot of people get negative heat for it. There are people who just troll gofundme finding (mostly women) to shit on for whatever their page is for. So when you get genuine ones like Veronica, she still takes some heat for it. One of the ways to gauge someone is the target in relation to the goal. Say if she asked for 20,000 for 2 months, then it would look like she was milking it. 2000 is so reasonable and fits with the needs summary, that it makes sense. She exceeded the target so whomever is interested, she will have her needs met. Edited by - A_Fan on 9/9/2017 1:37:53 AM [Link]

Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 2:33AM ^ Thanks A Fan for answering my question. Just curious that's all no offence towards Veronica intended. Just glad she reached her target. She might return here when she is able after she is free of medical problems to thank anyone from here who might have contributed. I just wish her well for the future. I think the reason for the GoFundMe page is plausible. She has family in Texas. When you are at your lowest ebb as Veronica is at the moment you invariably want to be close to family. She had a career which was centrered in LA where she has a dwelling and hopes to get back there in her new venture but when you are in hospital and not earning money and you are the main wage earner in the household in LA the bills start to pile up mainly rent. I've been there and I am from the UK. Whether anyone believes her or not her reason was the money was to pay 2 months rent. Whether it's back rent to catch up or she is estimating that she will be in Texas for roughly 2 months ahead I don't know. But either way it's one less worry to worry about. (If that makes sense) Edited by - Brummie on 9/9/2017 2:42:26 AM [Link]
InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 2:57AM @Mister Fahrenheit and A_Fan Thanks for the insight. We live in well-developed countries but there are still some (huge) differences in some points. [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 12:01PM A_Fan wrote: There is a lot of abuse on GOFundMe and that is why a lot of people get negative heat for it. There are people who just troll gofundme finding (mostly women) to shit on for whatever their page is for. So when you get genuine ones like Veronica, she Click to expand I really don't want to belay the point but how do you know that her "Gofundme" page is a genuine one and not a way for her to get free money? Unless you have some personal information that hasn't been posted anywhere else then you don't know anything more than the rest of us. The fact that it's a relatively small amount sort makes it look like it might be the real thing and ultimately donations are voluntary but if it's not then she will have done what other performers before her have done and conned her fans into given them money. Now I don't want to derail her thread anymore than I already have so all I'm going to say is Thank You Veronica for those many years of great porn and I hope you get soon get back your health and have an happy life away from the industry. [Link]
HavocTMA Member I thought you said there'd be cake here. Guess that was a lie. 289 Posts 8/13	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 12:12PM Funny thing about personal information is that it is told in confidence. Her history of not having a wishlist on her profile aides me in believing that she is genuinely in need. My food is problematic-River Tam [Link]
Darek Deactivated User 51 Posts 12/16	Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 2:25PM nevermind Edited by - Darek on 9/9/2017 5:32:24 PM [Link]
smooth91 Member A smooth operator, operating correctly. 445 Posts 1/14	Posted - Sep 10 2017 : 10:54PM If this is really the end of her career I truly wish her the best. I remember I first saw her when she was hosting a Brazzers Live. She hadn't officially shot her first anal scene, but she got a surprise DP in that one. And then she just exploded after that. She really committed to pushing her limits and going the extra mile in her scenes. She is one of the best MILFs of all time, a clear-cut future Hall Of Famer. She will be missed. [Link]
DannyManKing55 Member 380 Posts 7/12	Posted - Sep 10 2017 : 11:19PM Every time a favorite of mine retires it creates an empty void. No one is going to be able to replace her. She had everything I looked for in a performer plus some. I am going to miss her. Hope everything turns out for the best. [Link]
jimbob50 Member 107 Posts 2/11	Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 6:40AM Veronica has been one of the best performers of this decade, but you have to consider the following. 1. Alcohol intake is a large factor for blood pressure/uncontrollable blood pressure-her problems with alcohol are well documented. If she smokes or does drugs this can also be a problem. Lifestyle factors are a huge factor in this condition & yes I am aware that it could be none of those things as I don't do any of them & was diagnosed with hypertension last year. 2. She has remained a great performer but let's be realistic she has looked unhealthy for a number of years after Hans untimely passing, it has been apparent there has been a lot going on & she hasn't taken care of herself. 3. She has had pops at others in the industry & acted irrationally on her social media accounts for a long time. 4. You have to remember the kind of money these ladies with a name can make for one scene is the stuff most people can only dream about making in probably a month or more of doing 9-5 jobs 5 or 6 days a week. They can make money off their own websites, dancing & escorting & most do some or all of these. If they are in financial trouble then they are living way beyond their exceptional means-expensive clothes, jewellery, flash cars etc. 5. Others have retired but come back-Jewels Jade has retired & bashed the industry & her fellow performers multiple times but always come back to it, the ones who joined Shelley Lubben's anti-porn religious cult, there was a great looking woman who was obviously messing companies around because she barely had any scenes & then 'retired' blamed porn for her drug addictions & every other problem in life & begged for money, a year or so back she was talking about coming back to porn. Let's be serious she got into porn late & is now in her mid 40's who is going to find getting a job that pays better than porn virtually impossible. 6. The multiple rapes comment is offensive to rape victims. You decided to do porn & do the extreme scenes, if you were raped during any of them then you need to go to the police. Just another piece of meat-well you do a job that entails getting naked & having sex for people to jerk themselves off to, this is like a nurse saying her bosses & the public only see her as somebody to provide medical care. The companies owe you nothing-they pay female performers very large amounts per scene & have to try to market those scenes/films in an era where the market is over-saturated beyond belief to where a lot of piracy is going to cut into their profits. they don't have thousands of dollars floating around. Edited by - jimbob50 on 9/12/2017 6:52:38 AM Edited by - jimbob50 on 9/12/2017 6:53:19 AM [Link]
Deathstars62 Deactivated User 365 Posts 11/15	Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 8:08AM Sad news indeed, one of my all time favorites Thank you Veronica [Link]
HavocTMA Member I thought you said there'd be cake here. Guess that was a lie. 289 Posts 8/13	Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 9:13AM Back on topic: nathansluts.com has finally released the scene she shoot for them back in2016. Note: the "multiple rapes" comment is only offensive to rape victims if it's inaccurate. As someone else pointed out those tweets were made out of context so the information to debunk them doesn't exist. Assumeing that ppl who work in the adult film industry can't be sexually assaulted is pretty Goddamn cynical. My food is problematic-River Tam [Link]

A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 5:54PM pat362 wrote: A_Fan wrote: There is a lot of abuse on GOFundMe and that is why a lot of people get negative heat for it. There are people who just troll gofundme finding (mostly women) to shit on for whatever their page is for. So when you get genuine ones like Veronica, she Click to expand I really don't want to belay the point but how do you know that her "Gofundme" page is a genuine one and not a way for her to get free money? Unless you have some personal information that hasn't been posted anywhere else then you don't know anything more than the rest of us. The fact that it's a relatively small amount sort makes it look like it might be the real thing and ultimately donations are voluntary but if it's not then she will have done what other performers before her have done and conned her fans into given them money. Now I don't want to derail her thread anymore than I already have so all I'm going to say is Thank You Veronica for those many years of great porn and I hope you get soon get back your health and have an happy life away from the industry. Click to expand You know what, if she spends the $50 I sent on a tanning session or wastes it on a bag of fast food. I don't care. I gave it to her because I felt the need was real. If it's bullshit, I just consider it a thank you gift for putting her body on the line (and she pushed herself harder than most performers) and providing me with a lot of enjoyment . Therefore, I don't worry if it is real or not or whatever. She earned it from me already. I hope she builds a great life as she transitions. [Link]
erik2690 Deactivated User 367 Posts 3/12	Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 8:58AM My memory is slightly fuzzy but wasn't Veronica one of Raven Alexis' most adamant supporters? Did she ever address that? [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10	Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 1:42PM You know what, if she spends the $50 I sent on a tanning session or wastes it on a bag of fast food. I don't care. I gave it to her because I felt the need was real. If it's bullshit, I just consider it a thank you gift for putting her body on the line (and she pushed herself harder than most performers) and providing me with a lot of enjoyment . Click to expand Would you still be okay if she spent the money on cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or another hard drug? Since we really don't know what she will spend the money on then my suggestions are just as possible as yours but their effect on her health will definitely not be the same. That's why I am always cautious about those "Gofundme" pages for random strangers and as much as you might think that you know Veronica. You really don't because for most of us the relationship is one way only. They make a product that we watch. That's it, that's all. In many ways some of her recent tweets should make people weary of her current mental state. I'm not saying that she is somehow crazy but that she may be in a bad place mentally and emotionally and the last thing I will post on this subject is that for all we know some of her friends and family have done an intervention to make sure that she gets better and the one thing they don't want her to have access to is money that she will use on things that aren't good for her. It's just something to ponder until we are sure of the real story with V. [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 2:37PM ^ Pat. I presume you are a fan of Veronica. 1. For the upteenth time. She is in hospital in Texas where she has family. She is intending to return to LA. She estimates that it will be around two months until she is well enough to return to LA and into her new life away from porn. Until then there is two months rent to pay on her apartment. That is what the money was for. Veronica has tweeted this when she tweeted the link to the GoFundMe page. 2 If you read HavocTMA's post on September 8th on Page 59 previous page he explains to another doubter that Veronica is not the sort of person to beg lightly at every little money shortage and answers other questions also. It has to be something major for her to resort to a GoFundMe page. And $2,000 is not an absolutely enormous sum of money. She has stated that she is trying to get her life back in order. This cannot fully be done without the generosity of her fans. The target was actually reached and passed within a couple of days. 3. The GoFundMe page is voluntary so you are not forced to contribute so if you haven't contributed do not worry for those who have. They were probably fans, friends from outside the porn industry or neighbours etc. I find it incredible sometimes that when someone who has entertained us with such splendid scenes over the recent few years in her porn career finds herself going through a bad patch over the last few months which has been well documented she puts out a cry for help via GoFundMe. And instead of getting a unanimous vote of support and encouragement to get well she instead gets doubters regarding "What does she want the money for?" and such like. Doubting that she is even unwell. Even questioning the GoFundMe page which, I repeat, is voluntary. Some people. Talk about kicking a woman when she is down. Edited by - Brummie on 9/13/2017 2:41:44 PM [Link]
HavocTMA Member I thought you said there'd be cake here. Guess that was a lie. 289 Posts 8/13	Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 3:16PM Pat I don't know who made you the Donation police. I can vouch for Veronica because I know her well enough to say she would have preferred not doing a go fund me but things became dire due to her medical situation. You don't have to donate and you sure as hell don't have like that others are donating. I don't know what you're playing at by coming here to be the contrarian. I really think if Brummie has the right idea if you're not gonna be supportive or talk about the content of her videos then GTFO. As has been said by mods before in this group this is not the place to discuss what you believe are ulterior motive or speculate about flaws. I'm gonna vouch for her. My food is problematic-River Tam [Link]
Darek Deactivated User 51 Posts 12/16	Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 5:34PM well first i decided i wont say anything cuz its pointless but some of u crossed the line. im the one who gave Veronica this idea about GFM after almost 7 years of following her i fully trust her that she is in need. no one force anyone to donate so what is your problem ? and whatever she will do with this money its her choose ! !!!! [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 12:29AM pat362 wrote: You know what, if she spends the $50 I sent on a tanning session or wastes it on a bag of fast food. I don't care. I gave it to her because I felt the need was real. If it's bullshit, I just consider it a thank you gift for putting her body on the line (and she pushed herself harder than most performers) and providing me with a lot of enjoyment . Click to expand Would you still be okay if she spent the money on cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or another hard drug? Since we really don't know what she will spend the money on then my suggestions are just as possible as yours but their effect on her health will definitely not be the same. That's why I am always cautious about those "Gofundme" pages for random strangers and as much as you might think that you know Veronica. You really don't because for most of us the relationship is one way only. They make a product that we watch. That's it, that's all. In many ways some of her recent tweets should make people weary of her current mental state. I'm not saying that she is somehow crazy but that she may be in a bad place mentally and emotionally and the last thing I will post on this subject is that for all we know some of her friends and family have done an intervention to make sure that she gets better and the one thing they don't want her to have access to is money that she will use on things that aren't good for her. It's just something to ponder until we are sure of the real story with V. Click to expand Its none of my business what she spends it on. I did not send it "with conditions". I believe her GoFundMe is real, and I donated for that. If it were not real, then I consider it a gift without conditions for the reasons I mentioned earlier. yes, I don't know her, I just know the performer. Veronica the performer did enough for me to want to give this gift regardless of where it end up. I am not sure why this bothers you so much. Unless you sent her money you have no skin in the game. Edited by - A_Fan on 9/14/2017 1:53:41 AM [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 2:28AM ^ ^^ & ^^^ Hear Hear Edited by - Brummie on 9/14/2017 2:29:20 AM [Link]
Sammyboy Member 308 Posts 8/01	Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 3:06AM ^ Yeah, her fans are saying some very good things. [Link]
steelbill Senior Member 1456 Posts 9/03	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 4:23AM My 2 cents. Veronica, you're the best. At your peak. I would do a three part special with Kink, sort of like Insatiable that Asa Akira did, and go out with an historic video, and you should make a bunch of money, if you sort of direct it, or come up with what you want to do, or pick your director. A big payday. Combine a "Sex and Submission with a Hardcore Gangbang scene. Do a "Freightor Whore", where your on a ship with 12 men and 2 women for 5 days. You'ld have a blast. Your health is number one, fer sure. I understand if you want to stop and go another direction, but on twitter, you say youre horney as hell. Go out with a series of your own and make some big cash-- my ideas? Hope you get well. [Link]

Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 8:15AM ^ That would be great to see. But sadly for Veronica's fans of her porn work it's not going to happen. Veronica has decided to change direction. I think it's similar to another pornstar of a few years ago. Rebecca Bardoux. She retired from the Adult film industry and diversified into hosting an Adult show on a radio show. And the last I heard she did stand up comedy and hosting at Carnal Comedy. OK it's still adult stuff but she is not shooting movies anymore and she successfully moved into two other medias apart from an actress. As a chat show host and as a stand up comic and hostess. If Veronica makes her transition in the right way maybe like Rebecca did into her new career there is life after porn after all. Good luck to Veronica. [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 8:58AM Veronica is Voracious is a fantastic release. If that is the last new release I ever have of hers, it was a memorable way to go out! [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 10:39AM ^ As with any pornstar who retires there are usually some unreleased scenes lurking at some studios. I assume Veronica has some scenes in that state. From time to time studios might release a scene as one of a DVD. Like a Big Tits In Sports scene from Brazzers or a My First Sex Teacher from Naughty America or a BDSM scene for example. So there might be scenes of Veronica's out there but not brand new ones. [Link]
steelbill Senior Member 1456 Posts 9/03	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 12:34PM We all agree her health ranks first. But I think she will do a few more scenes to , what I thought, is just to get some departure cash. Veronic Avluv said on twitter a few days ago------ "Sucks to be sick and yet so horny at the same time.. Ugh literally going crazy over here. Apparently my sex drive doesnt ever leave me alone" So I'd love her to make "her" video with either she directs or in charge. God, some of her ideas would be killer to go out on. I see a farewell tour of a few films. Shes the best and should get top top dollar for a project. [Link]
mickey virus Member 59 Posts 6/17	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 1:30PM I don't think Veronica would be able to keep herself away from porn for longer period of time [Link]
DannyManKing55 Member 380 Posts 7/12	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 3:12PM ^And what would make you say that? The only person who knows for sure if Veronica will return is Veronica herself. If she is gone permanently She will be missed. If not then she deserved the rest period no matter how many months or years she is taking off. [Link]
Ozist135 Member 129 Posts 3/17	Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 6:05PM I've seen Veronica's recent tweets, and what I've understood from them is that her health looks like it got better, I'm happy for Veronica that she's doing better. The second thing is that she's probably going to change her mind about retirement, i really hope she does.... i would be so happy if she did. I also think that the positive feedback from the fans had a big role in it, so keep supporting her...... we only have one Veronica in this world after all right?! [Link]
mickey virus Member 59 Posts 6/17	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 11:33AM I've been watching her from the beginning of her career but she has hit the peak in the past one year. Just a month ago she said on twitter that she isn't thinking about retiring but then something wrong happened with her and she announced her retirement. I don't think this decision is a wise one, its the decision that is taken in the heat of the moment. She is facing some problems economically but she can make more and more $$$ by making more scenes, she is still a top performer [Link]
mickey virus Member 59 Posts 6/17	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 11:34AM I've been watching her from the beginning of her career but she has hit the peak in the past one year. Just a month ago she said on twitter that she isn't thinking about retiring but then something wrong happened with her and she announced her retirement. I don't think this decision is a wise one, its the decision that is taken in the heat of the moment. She is facing some problems economically but she can make more and more $$$ by making more scenes, she is still a top performer [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 12:11PM ^is her decision to stop shooting "not wise" because you want more content, or because you have some knowledge of the moving parts of her life and decision making process, and you therefore know this is a bad decision for her? You know, porn retirement is like pro wrestling retirement. You never know if they will come back, just enjoy their body of work. Edited by - A_Fan on 9/21/2017 12:12:10 PM [Link]

DannyManKing55 Member 380 Posts 7/12	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 12:33PM ^^With all the stuff that has happened to her she deserves time off or a retirement. She is human like the rest of us. Everything you commented make you sound so apathetic. I strongly doubt her decision to retire "in the heat of the moment" was just that unless you are one of those selfish people who want more scenes out of her with disregard for her health altogether. [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 4:34PM mickey virus wrote: I completely agree with dreamwalker she has been for 7 years but only got only 170k+ followers and posted some 32k twitts. Even a newbie gets 200k+ followers these days in a few months. Click to expand ^ I had to laugh at this statement. I follow 3 pornstars on Twitter, Ariella Ferrera, India Summer and Syren De Mer. Both have been in the porn industry a good few years so hardly newbies. Let's say similar or slightly longer to Veronica's length of career. Let's look at their Twitter figures. You said "Even a newbie gets 200K+ followers these days in a few months" Ariella has around 23K Tweets and 160K followers active since at least 2009 India has 28.3K Tweets and 108K followers active since at least 2005 Syren De Mer has 29.1K Tweets and 89.8K Followers active since at least 2007 Veronica Avluv now has 34K Tweets and 180K Followers and Active since at least 2010 So of those four ladies Veronica has the most Tweets, the most followers and had the shortest career to date. That blows your point right out of the water. I Think [Link]
HavocTMA Member I thought you said there'd be cake here. Guess that was a lie. 289 Posts 8/13	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 4:55PM Regardless of why she is retiring she doesn't need to justify that decision to the likes of you Virus. My food is problematic-River Tam [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 5:03PM I almost would think the mods should put this thread on pause for a couple of weeks. I am starting to get uncomfortable with it now after having to defend contributing to the gofundme and all these internet experts on her personal life. [Link]
HavocTMA Member I thought you said there'd be cake here. Guess that was a lie. 289 Posts 8/13	Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 5:20PM ^ not a bad idea. My food is problematic-River Tam Edited by - havoctma on 9/21/2017 6:43:29 PM [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 1:28AM Since Veronica announced her retirement there have been thankfully more messages of gratitude for her career in porn. Messages of support, messages of sage advice and encouragement. But also just a couple of critical messages doubting her reasons for quitting porn, virtually urging her to come back and film a showcase, and now even questioning the number of Tweets she makes and followers she has on Twitter (I shot that theory down by the way) Yes. I would love Veronica to come back to porn. Wouldn't we all love that. When Veronica made that Tweet about having the urge to want to come back to porn it might have been an "in the moment" Tweet. Her mind seemed pretty set when she wanted to leave. So I take that later tweet at face value. We have to wait and see what happens next. [Link]
Darek Deactivated User 51 Posts 12/16	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 6:55AM @Brummie U re-posting old posts by these who crtisized her months ago i guess only to put this thread on fire from time to time and then report to mods to show how big white knight you are. U honestly making here more mess than these ppl who are negative. before you are was doing it with dremwalker posts and now with Virus as for retirment . well for now her health is most importnat but who knows what going to happen when she heal. no one force her to anything but it would be cool if she would back after she heal but if not i will accpet it. there is nothing wrong that her fans miss her and would like to see her back ppl do that in all retired pornstars threads here i dont see any posts here where ppl force her to this or begin not empathy. besides many these girls retire and coming back in every 6 months so as someone said porn is like fighting sports my point is that all of u here should hold your horses ,on both sides... reading this thread in recent weeks making my eyes wanna explode just leave it be u all and lets her heal in peace and then we will see... she need to peace and not to read how u guys fighting Edited by - Darek on 9/22/2017 7:55:45 AM [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 8:58AM Maybe after what Veronica has been through in the last few months. It might have needed a "white knight" to put things straight for those like Dreamwalker who were continually posting such negative stuff about her when everyone else was posting positive stuff. That why he went because of the Etiquette policy. If you feel that a fight on a thread is brewing/started/or in progress everyone has a duty to report it on the Deactivation thread. The mods would let you know if the report was a valid one to make. Dreamwalker was posting controversial posts which could have caused a fight. In the end it is up to the Mods to make the decision whether to just keep an eye on the thread/Warn him/Deactivate him. As it turned out he was warned twice (I think) then Deactivated. If everyone had ignored his posts and his sort carried on in the same vein who knows where this thread would have led to. I wrote that Tweets post just to put Virus right on the comparison between Veronica and other porn stars. That's all. Not to stir things up. If that was your impression I am sorry. It's the first time I've re-posted an old post I believe. I do agree with you about her retirement in everything you say but there have been posts even on this page further up by a poster you have named urging her to do a retirement scene so that she can make $$$. Yes. I would love Veronica to do that. That is not going to happen as Veronica has already firmly set her path onto new things. As I said that Tweet might have been a spur of the moment Tweet as they say. As I said in my last post I would love her to come back. Who wouldn't. But it's her decision and yes, her health is obviously the most important thing right now. Edited by - Brummie on 9/22/2017 9:08:26 AM [Link]
mickey virus Member 59 Posts 6/17	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 11:08AM I'm not saying that she should make a come back immediately. Of course her health is more important. I haven't found anything like that she's working on any new project. No one knows how firm her decision is. [Link]
Darek Deactivated User 51 Posts 12/16	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 12:35PM @Brummie i have nothing to u but u was reposting that Dreamwalker old posts when he was rude to her when i was telling u myself to not do it cuz u only escalate and she also may see but nevermind ok? i know u are good guy and on her side the same like me but just try to not cross the line cuz these fights are not need. lets just let her heal in peace this all i ask . as for twitter follwers . i only add something from myself. i wont say names but there are girls that buying followers from PR companies. Veronica is genuine and she never faked her followes like many top girls do have bought 10000s following zombies [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 1:32PM ^ Ok. Totally agree. Darek. All of your posts have been of a positive kind. So no hard feelings At this moment the top priority is Veronica's health to get better so that she can get on with her life for the future in whatever she does. [Link]
A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 5:51PM ^^ Lots of girls buy twitter followers, as do lots of businesses and celebrities. its big business selling them to people who think they are budding social media stars who think they are instagram stars or youtubers... they pump up those numbers in a big way. The companies that sell them are very sophisticated. They create emails, twitter and facebook accounts, make and share posts, put up random photos, etc.. all to make it look like they are legit so these "find fake followers" programs dont work. some of them create over a million profiles and sell them over and over again in packages. They buy prepaid phones by the shitload for emails that require phone number verification, facebook,etc. Once all the start up costs are done and they have their package of of social media accounts, its just maintain and let the money roll in. The more an account is sold, the more it looks legit as it is following and sharing more and more content, and so forth. Then the accounts follow each other to grow their base as well. It may cost them 50 bucks in labor and costs to get one social media account active with a twitter, instagram, facebook, etc.. but they can sell it an unlimited amount of times to be a twitter follower, facebook like, instagram follower, youtube follower, etc. If someone were to invest a 100 grand in building a venture like this; as long as their sales funnel is busy, they can create a long term stream of sales income that can be thousands and thousands of dollars a month or more after the monthly expenses of employees and office and such are covered. Edited by - A_Fan on 9/22/2017 5:59:11 PM [Link]
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A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16	Posted - Sep 27 2017 : 10:14PM ^quite the first post. Can we make up more ideas too? Maybe she is a CIA agent and was under cover in porn ,and this is a way to bring her back to Langley and send her back to her old life? Maybe she is secretly planning to transition to male? Maybe she is pregnant with quadruplets due to a woman over 40 using a fertility clinic? Any more cool ideas as to why she is not performing? [Link]
Tipsey McStagger New Member 4 Posts 9/17	Posted - Sep 27 2017 : 10:44PM A_Fan wrote: ^quite the first post. Can we make up more ideas too? Maybe she is a CIA agent and was under cover in porn ,and this is a way to bring her back to Langley and send her back to her old life? Maybe she is secretly planning to transition to male? Maybe she is pregnant with quadruplets due to a woman over 40 using a fertility clinic? Any more cool ideas as to why she is not performing? Click to expand I had the truth posted in the previous posting, but the "MOD" took it down, so maybe there is a conspiracy (CIA entanglement?) afterall..LOL - - - MOD: I honestly have no idea why you are so intent on giving out her personal information. This is not the site to do it at. Edited by - Flash on 9/28/2017 2:52:40 PM Nothing posted is not something PUBLICLY AVAILABLE for anyone with an internet connection to search for, view and make their own opinions about. *The woman known as Veronica Avluv is not being accurately described in this forum and by shedding light on the truth and quelling the misnomers about her here-in could only be productive in the pursuit of the facts/truth about her. May the truth set you free. Edited by - Tipsey McStagger on 9/30/2017 4:34:18 PM Edited by - Tipsey McStagger on 9/30/2017 4:36:33 PM [Link]
Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 28 2017 : 1:16AM Why not trust Veronica and just go by what Veronica has Tweeted so far?. We are supposed to be loyal fans of Veronica so we should repay that loyalty by trusting what she says. [Link]

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Posted - Sep 8 2017 : 3:40PM

^ Americans have a lot of expenses people in other developed countries don't, like paying for health insurance and higher education. We also have a lower minimum wage.

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 8 2017 : 6:36PM

^yes, also consumer spending and debt is way out of control here in North America. People buy stuff and things and even six figure income earners don't have savings programs. When someone is a single parent, living in an urban area, it adds up. Kids, health insurance, transport, cars, living expenses, so on. The fellow who brought up how many scenes she did and why she doesn't have rent money when her income stops for a period of time. Well, let's say she made 500 grand in 5 years. After taxes and expenses for her career, that is not a huge amount of money when raising kids in a big city. And, who knows what family is also being taken care of.
It sounds like common sense to save money every month; in our culture, a lot of people don't do it due to the daily pressures of life. When the money comes in and you can do something nice for your kids, or take them for a 1000 dollar dental bill, or treat them to Disneyland or something; a savings plan can easily fall by the wayside.
A porn performer is no different than the electrician who makes 100 grand a year or any other career for that matter. Some save , some don't. Life is not cheap in the big city.
I understands peoples distaste for GoFundMe programs. There is a lot of lazy girls on there just trying to get a free lunch or live way above their means. However, Avluv is a well known performer who invested a lot into her fanbase. If she wants to ask her fans to assist her transition or hiatus from porn while she is a single parent, there is nothing wrong with that. People can chose to reward her for her performances and efforts with a parting gift, or not.
For me, I received a lot of benefit from her shorching performances, her engagement here on the forum, and her willingness to invest her body and energy a lot more intensely than most performers. She gave every drop of energy into her career. She really pushed her body hard to perform at that level. Giving her a $50 parting "thank you" on a go fund me is a no brainer for me.
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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 1:30AM

The least that any of Vee's followers and supporters could do was to help out a fantastic performer as she goes through a rough patch. Sadly I myself do not have a PayPal account but I have and always will give massive support in the form of words to help her through this bad time. Havoc answered all of the main questions further up the page. They were legitimate questions to ask. Havoc has more of an ear to Veronica than most of us here. So whatever the answers were must be taken as said.
When you think of all of the legacy of fantastic scenes Veronica has given us with but now she is down on her luck we must return the favour and give her support whether it be through a GoFundMe page, which by the way is voluntary, or through words of encouragement and support. Not having a PayPal account I have done the latter.
Amidst all of the bad luck Vee has had in the last few months the small piece of good news is that the target that was set on the GoFundMe page was reached and passed.
One small technical point that anyone can answer regarding any GoFundMe page. I'd never heard of GoFundMe but just wondering. If a target is set and is reached and passed by say $400 what happens to the rest of the money ?. One would hope that money would still go to the person who set up the page?. If so anything over the $2,000 would be a welcome bonus for Vee and well deserved.

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 1:36AM

^the person gets everything as long as it breaks the target. Minus GoFundMe's service fee which is a percentage (not sure what but it is under 10%).
There is a lot of abuse on GOFundMe and that is why a lot of people get negative heat for it. There are people who just troll gofundme finding (mostly women) to shit on for whatever their page is for. So when you get genuine ones like Veronica, she still takes some heat for it.
One of the ways to gauge someone is the target in relation to the goal. Say if she asked for 20,000 for 2 months, then it would look like she was milking it. 2000 is so reasonable and fits with the needs summary, that it makes sense.
She exceeded the target so whomever is interested, she will have her needs met.
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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 2:33AM

^ Thanks A Fan for answering my question. Just curious that's all no offence towards Veronica intended. Just glad she reached her target. She might return here when she is able after she is free of medical problems to thank anyone from here who might have contributed. I just wish her well for the future.
I think the reason for the GoFundMe page is plausible. She has family in Texas. When you are at your lowest ebb as Veronica is at the moment you invariably want to be close to family. She had a career which was centrered in LA where she has a dwelling and hopes to get back there in her new venture but when you are in hospital and not earning money and you are the main wage earner in the household in LA the bills start to pile up mainly rent. I've been there and I am from the UK. Whether anyone believes her or not her reason was the money was to pay 2 months rent. Whether it's back rent to catch up or she is estimating that she will be in Texas for roughly 2 months ahead I don't know. But either way it's one less worry to worry about. (If that makes sense)
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InstantClassic
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 2:57AM

@Mister Fahrenheit and A_Fan
Thanks for the insight. We live in well-developed countries but there are still some (huge) differences in some points.

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pat362
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 12:01PM

I really don't want to belay the point but how do you know that her "Gofundme" page is a genuine one and not a way for her to get free money? Unless you have some personal information that hasn't been posted anywhere else then you don't know anything more than the rest of us. The fact that it's a relatively small amount sort makes it look like it might be the real thing and ultimately donations are voluntary but if it's not then she will have done what other performers before her have done and conned her fans into given them money.
Now I don't want to derail her thread anymore than I already have so all I'm going to say is Thank You Veronica for those many years of great porn and I hope you get soon get back your health and have an happy life away from the industry.

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HavocTMA
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 12:12PM

Funny thing about personal information is that it is told in confidence. Her history of not having a wishlist on her profile aides me in believing that she is genuinely in need.
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Darek
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Posted - Sep 9 2017 : 2:25PM

nevermind
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smooth91
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Posted - Sep 10 2017 : 10:54PM

If this is really the end of her career I truly wish her the best. I remember I first saw her when she was hosting a Brazzers Live. She hadn't officially shot her first anal scene, but she got a surprise DP in that one. And then she just exploded after that. She really committed to pushing her limits and going the extra mile in her scenes. She is one of the best MILFs of all time, a clear-cut future Hall Of Famer. She will be missed.

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DannyManKing55
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Posted - Sep 10 2017 : 11:19PM

Every time a favorite of mine retires it creates an empty void. No one is going to be able to replace her. She had everything I looked for in a performer plus some. I am going to miss her. Hope everything turns out for the best.

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jimbob50
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Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 6:40AM

Veronica has been one of the best performers of this decade, but you have to consider the following.
1. Alcohol intake is a large factor for blood pressure/uncontrollable blood pressure-her problems with alcohol are well documented. If she smokes or does drugs this can also be a problem. Lifestyle factors are a huge factor in this condition & yes I am aware that it could be none of those things as I don't do any of them & was diagnosed with hypertension last year.
2. She has remained a great performer but let's be realistic she has looked unhealthy for a number of years after Hans untimely passing, it has been apparent there has been a lot going on & she hasn't taken care of herself.
3. She has had pops at others in the industry & acted irrationally on her social media accounts for a long time.
4. You have to remember the kind of money these ladies with a name can make for one scene is the stuff most people can only dream about making in probably a month or more of doing 9-5 jobs 5 or 6 days a week. They can make money off their own websites, dancing & escorting & most do some or all of these. If they are in financial trouble then they are living way beyond their exceptional means-expensive clothes, jewellery, flash cars etc.
5. Others have retired but come back-Jewels Jade has retired & bashed the industry & her fellow performers multiple times but always come back to it, the ones who joined Shelley Lubben's anti-porn religious cult, there was a great looking woman who was obviously messing companies around because she barely had any scenes & then 'retired' blamed porn for her drug addictions & every other problem in life & begged for money, a year or so back she was talking about coming back to porn. Let's be serious she got into porn late & is now in her mid 40's who is going to find getting a job that pays better than porn virtually impossible.
6. The multiple rapes comment is offensive to rape victims. You decided to do porn & do the extreme scenes, if you were raped during any of them then you need to go to the police. Just another piece of meat-well you do a job that entails getting naked & having sex for people to jerk themselves off to, this is like a nurse saying her bosses & the public only see her as somebody to provide medical care. The companies owe you nothing-they pay female performers very large amounts per scene & have to try to market those scenes/films in an era where the market is over-saturated beyond belief to where a lot of piracy is going to cut into their profits. they don't have thousands of dollars floating around.
Edited by - jimbob50 on 9/12/2017 6:52:38 AM
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Deathstars62
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Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 8:08AM

Sad news indeed, one of my all time favorites
Thank you Veronica

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HavocTMA
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Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 9:13AM

Back on topic: nathansluts.com has finally released the scene she shoot for them back in2016.
Note: the "multiple rapes" comment is only offensive to rape victims if it's inaccurate. As someone else pointed out those tweets were made out of context so the information to debunk them doesn't exist. Assumeing that ppl who work in the adult film industry can't be sexually assaulted is pretty Goddamn cynical.
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Posted - Sep 12 2017 : 5:54PM

pat362 wrote:
A_Fan wrote:
There is a lot of abuse on GOFundMe and that is why a lot of people get negative heat for it. There are people who just troll gofundme finding (mostly women) to shit on for whatever their page is for. So when you get genuine ones like Veronica, she
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I really don't want to belay the point but how do you know that her "Gofundme" page is a genuine one and not a way for her to get free money? Unless you have some personal information that hasn't been posted anywhere else then you don't know anything more than the rest of us. The fact that it's a relatively small amount sort makes it look like it might be the real thing and ultimately donations are voluntary but if it's not then she will have done what other performers before her have done and conned her fans into given them money.
Now I don't want to derail her thread anymore than I already have so all I'm going to say is Thank You Veronica for those many years of great porn and I hope you get soon get back your health and have an happy life away from the industry.
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You know what, if she spends the $50 I sent on a tanning session or wastes it on a bag of fast food. I don't care. I gave it to her because I felt the need was real. If it's bullshit, I just consider it a thank you gift for putting her body on the line (and she pushed herself harder than most performers) and providing me with a lot of enjoyment . Therefore, I don't worry if it is real or not or whatever. She earned it from me already. I hope she builds a great life as she transitions.

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erik2690
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Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 8:58AM

My memory is slightly fuzzy but wasn't Veronica one of Raven Alexis' most adamant supporters? Did she ever address that?

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pat362
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Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 1:42PM

Would you still be okay if she spent the money on cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or another hard drug? Since we really don't know what she will spend the money on then my suggestions are just as possible as yours but their effect on her health will definitely not be the same. That's why I am always cautious about those "Gofundme" pages for random strangers and as much as you might think that you know Veronica. You really don't because for most of us the relationship is one way only. They make a product that we watch. That's it, that's all. In many ways some of her recent tweets should make people weary of her current mental state. I'm not saying that she is somehow crazy but that she may be in a bad place mentally and emotionally and the last thing I will post on this subject is that for all we know some of her friends and family have done an intervention to make sure that she gets better and the one thing they don't want her to have access to is money that she will use on things that aren't good for her. It's just something to ponder until we are sure of the real story with V.

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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 2:37PM

^ Pat. I presume you are a fan of Veronica.
1. For the upteenth time. She is in hospital in Texas where she has family. She is intending to return to LA. She estimates that it will be around two months until she is well enough to return to LA and into her new life away from porn. Until then there is two months rent to pay on her apartment. That is what the money was for. Veronica has tweeted this when she tweeted the link to the GoFundMe page.
2 If you read HavocTMA's post on September 8th on Page 59 previous page he explains to another doubter that Veronica is not the sort of person to beg lightly at every little money shortage and answers other questions also. It has to be something major for her to resort to a GoFundMe page. And $2,000 is not an absolutely enormous sum of money. She has stated that she is trying to get her life back in order. This cannot fully be done without the generosity of her fans. The target was actually reached and passed within a couple of days.
3. The GoFundMe page is voluntary so you are not forced to contribute so if you haven't contributed do not worry for those who have. They were probably fans, friends from outside the porn industry or neighbours etc.
I find it incredible sometimes that when someone who has entertained us with such splendid scenes over the recent few years in her porn career finds herself going through a bad patch over the last few months which has been well documented she puts out a cry for help via GoFundMe. And instead of getting a unanimous vote of support and encouragement to get well she instead gets doubters regarding "What does she want the money for?" and such like. Doubting that she is even unwell. Even questioning the GoFundMe page which, I repeat, is voluntary. Some people. Talk about kicking a woman when she is down.
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HavocTMA
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Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 3:16PM

Pat I don't know who made you the Donation police. I can vouch for Veronica because I know her well enough to say she would have preferred not doing a go fund me but things became dire due to her medical situation. You don't have to donate and you sure as hell don't have like that others are donating. I don't know what you're playing at by coming here to be the contrarian. I really think if Brummie has the right idea if you're not gonna be supportive or talk about the content of her videos then GTFO. As has been said by mods before in this group this is not the place to discuss what you believe are ulterior motive or speculate about flaws. I'm gonna vouch for her.
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Darek
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Posted - Sep 13 2017 : 5:34PM

well first i decided i wont say anything cuz its pointless but some of u crossed the line. im the one who gave Veronica this idea about GFM after almost 7 years of following her i fully trust her that she is in need. no one force anyone to donate so what is your problem ? and whatever she will do with this money its her choose ! !!!!

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 12:29AM

pat362 wrote:
You know what, if she spends the $50 I sent on a tanning session or wastes it on a bag of fast food. I don't care. I gave it to her because I felt the need was real. If it's bullshit, I just consider it a thank you gift for putting her body on the line (and she pushed herself harder than most performers) and providing me with a lot of enjoyment .
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Would you still be okay if she spent the money on cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or another hard drug? Since we really don't know what she will spend the money on then my suggestions are just as possible as yours but their effect on her health will definitely not be the same. That's why I am always cautious about those "Gofundme" pages for random strangers and as much as you might think that you know Veronica. You really don't because for most of us the relationship is one way only. They make a product that we watch. That's it, that's all. In many ways some of her recent tweets should make people weary of her current mental state. I'm not saying that she is somehow crazy but that she may be in a bad place mentally and emotionally and the last thing I will post on this subject is that for all we know some of her friends and family have done an intervention to make sure that she gets better and the one thing they don't want her to have access to is money that she will use on things that aren't good for her. It's just something to ponder until we are sure of the real story with V.
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Its none of my business what she spends it on. I did not send it "with conditions". I believe her GoFundMe is real, and I donated for that. If it were not real, then I consider it a gift without conditions for the reasons I mentioned earlier. yes, I don't know her, I just know the performer. Veronica the performer did enough for me to want to give this gift regardless of where it end up. I am not sure why this bothers you so much. Unless you sent her money you have no skin in the game.
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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 2:28AM

^ ^^ & ^^^ Hear Hear
Edited by - Brummie on 9/14/2017 2:29:20 AM

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Sammyboy
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Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 3:06AM

^ Yeah, her fans are saying some very good things.

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steelbill
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 4:23AM

My 2 cents. Veronica, you're the best. At your peak. I would do a three part special with Kink, sort of like Insatiable that Asa Akira did, and go out with an historic video, and you should make a bunch of money, if you sort of direct it, or come up with what you want to do, or pick your director. A big payday. Combine a "Sex and Submission with a Hardcore Gangbang scene. Do a "Freightor Whore", where your on a ship with 12 men and 2 women for 5 days. You'ld have a blast. Your health is number one, fer sure. I understand if you want to stop and go another direction, but on twitter, you say youre horney as hell. Go out with a series of your own and make some big cash-- my ideas? Hope you get well.

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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 8:15AM

^ That would be great to see. But sadly for Veronica's fans of her porn work it's not going to happen. Veronica has decided to change direction. I think it's similar to another pornstar of a few years ago. Rebecca Bardoux. She retired from the Adult film industry and diversified into hosting an Adult show on a radio show. And the last I heard she did stand up comedy and hosting at Carnal Comedy. OK it's still adult stuff but she is not shooting movies anymore and she successfully moved into two other medias apart from an actress. As a chat show host and as a stand up comic and hostess.
If Veronica makes her transition in the right way maybe like Rebecca did into her new career there is life after porn after all. Good luck to Veronica.

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 8:58AM

Veronica is Voracious is a fantastic release. If that is the last new release I ever have of hers, it was a memorable way to go out!

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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 10:39AM

^ As with any pornstar who retires there are usually some unreleased scenes lurking at some studios. I assume Veronica has some scenes in that state. From time to time studios might release a scene as one of a DVD. Like a Big Tits In Sports scene from Brazzers or a My First Sex Teacher from Naughty America or a BDSM scene for example. So there might be scenes of Veronica's out there but not brand new ones.

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steelbill
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 12:34PM

We all agree her health ranks first. But I think she will do a few more scenes to , what I thought, is just to get some departure cash. Veronic Avluv said on twitter a few days ago------ "Sucks to be sick and yet so horny at the same time.. Ugh literally going crazy over here. Apparently my sex drive doesnt ever leave me alone"
So I'd love her to make "her" video with either she directs or in charge. God, some of her ideas would be killer to go out on.
I see a farewell tour of a few films. Shes the best and should get top top dollar for a project.

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mickey virus
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 1:30PM

I don't think Veronica would be able to keep herself away from porn for longer period of time

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DannyManKing55
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 3:12PM

^And what would make you say that? The only person who knows for sure if Veronica will return is Veronica herself. If she is gone permanently She will be missed. If not then she deserved the rest period no matter how many months or years she is taking off.

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Ozist135
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Posted - Sep 20 2017 : 6:05PM

I've seen Veronica's recent tweets, and what I've understood from them is that her health looks like it got better, I'm happy for Veronica that she's doing better. The second thing is that she's probably going to change her mind about retirement, i really hope she does.... i would be so happy if she did. I also think that the positive feedback from the fans had a big role in it, so keep supporting her...... we only have one Veronica in this world after all right?!

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mickey virus
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 11:33AM

I've been watching her from the beginning of her career but she has hit the peak in the past one year.
Just a month ago she said on twitter that she isn't thinking about retiring but then something wrong happened with her and she announced her retirement. I don't think this decision is a wise one, its the decision that is taken in the heat of the moment.
She is facing some problems economically but she can make more and more $$$ by making more scenes, she is still a top performer

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mickey virus
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 11:34AM

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 12:11PM

^is her decision to stop shooting "not wise" because you want more content, or because you have some knowledge of the moving parts of her life and decision making process, and you therefore know this is a bad decision for her?
You know, porn retirement is like pro wrestling retirement. You never know if they will come back, just enjoy their body of work.
Edited by - A_Fan on 9/21/2017 12:12:10 PM

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DannyManKing55
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 12:33PM

^^With all the stuff that has happened to her she deserves time off or a retirement. She is human like the rest of us. Everything you commented make you sound so apathetic. I strongly doubt her decision to retire "in the heat of the moment" was just that unless you are one of those selfish people who want more scenes out of her with disregard for her health altogether.

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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 4:34PM

^ I had to laugh at this statement.
I follow 3 pornstars on Twitter, Ariella Ferrera, India Summer and Syren De Mer. Both have been in the porn industry a good few years so hardly newbies. Let's say similar or slightly longer to Veronica's length of career. Let's look at their Twitter figures.
You said "Even a newbie gets 200K+ followers these days in a few months"
Ariella has around 23K Tweets and 160K followers active since at least 2009
India has 28.3K Tweets and 108K followers active since at least 2005
Syren De Mer has 29.1K Tweets and 89.8K Followers active since at least 2007
Veronica Avluv now has 34K Tweets and 180K Followers and Active since at least 2010
So of those four ladies Veronica has the most Tweets, the most followers and had the shortest career to date.
That blows your point right out of the water. I Think

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HavocTMA
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 4:55PM

Regardless of why she is retiring she doesn't need to justify that decision to the likes of you Virus.
My food is problematic-River Tam

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 5:03PM

I almost would think the mods should put this thread on pause for a couple of weeks. I am starting to get uncomfortable with it now after having to defend contributing to the gofundme and all these internet experts on her personal life.

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HavocTMA
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Posted - Sep 21 2017 : 5:20PM

^ not a bad idea.
My food is problematic-River Tam
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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 1:28AM

Since Veronica announced her retirement there have been thankfully more messages of gratitude for her career in porn. Messages of support, messages of sage advice and encouragement.
But also just a couple of critical messages doubting her reasons for quitting porn, virtually urging her to come back and film a showcase, and now even questioning the number of Tweets she makes and followers she has on Twitter (I shot that theory down by the way)
Yes. I would love Veronica to come back to porn. Wouldn't we all love that. When Veronica made that Tweet about having the urge to want to come back to porn it might have been an "in the moment" Tweet. Her mind seemed pretty set when she wanted to leave. So I take that later tweet at face value. We have to wait and see what happens next.

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Darek
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 6:55AM

@Brummie U re-posting old posts by these who crtisized her months ago i guess only to put this thread on fire from time to time and then report to mods to show how big white knight you are. U honestly making here more mess than these ppl who are negative. before you are was doing it with dremwalker posts and now with Virus
as for retirment . well for now her health is most importnat but who knows what going to happen when she heal. no one force her to anything but it would be cool if she would back after she heal but if not i will accpet it. there is nothing wrong that her fans miss her and would like to see her back ppl do that in all retired pornstars threads here i dont see any posts here where ppl force her to this or begin not empathy. besides many these girls retire and coming back in every 6 months so as someone said porn is like fighting sports
my point is that all of u here should hold your horses ,on both sides... reading this thread in recent weeks making my eyes wanna explode
just leave it be u all and lets her heal in peace and then we will see... she need to peace and not to read how u guys fighting
Edited by - Darek on 9/22/2017 7:55:45 AM

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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 8:58AM

Maybe after what Veronica has been through in the last few months. It might have needed a "white knight" to put things straight for those like Dreamwalker who were continually posting such negative stuff about her when everyone else was posting positive stuff. That why he went because of the Etiquette policy. If you feel that a fight on a thread is brewing/started/or in progress everyone has a duty to report it on the Deactivation thread. The mods would let you know if the report was a valid one to make. Dreamwalker was posting controversial posts which could have caused a fight. In the end it is up to the Mods to make the decision whether to just keep an eye on the thread/Warn him/Deactivate him. As it turned out he was warned twice (I think) then Deactivated. If everyone had ignored his posts and his sort carried on in the same vein who knows where this thread would have led to.
I wrote that Tweets post just to put Virus right on the comparison between Veronica and other porn stars. That's all. Not to stir things up. If that was your impression I am sorry. It's the first time I've re-posted an old post I believe.
I do agree with you about her retirement in everything you say but there have been posts even on this page further up by a poster you have named urging her to do a retirement scene so that she can make $$$. Yes. I would love Veronica to do that. That is not going to happen as Veronica has already firmly set her path onto new things. As I said that Tweet might have been a spur of the moment Tweet as they say.
As I said in my last post I would love her to come back. Who wouldn't. But it's her decision and yes, her health is obviously the most important thing right now.
Edited by - Brummie on 9/22/2017 9:08:26 AM

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mickey virus
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 11:08AM

I'm not saying that she should make a come back immediately. Of course her health is more important.
I haven't found anything like that she's working on any new project. No one knows how firm her decision is.

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Darek
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 12:35PM

@Brummie i have nothing to u but u was reposting that Dreamwalker old posts when he was rude to her when i was telling u myself to not do it cuz u only escalate and she also may see but nevermind ok? i know u are good guy and on her side the same like me but just try to not cross the line cuz these fights are not need. lets just let her heal in peace this all i ask .
as for twitter follwers . i only add something from myself. i wont say names but there are girls that buying followers from PR companies. Veronica is genuine and she never faked her followes like many top girls do have bought 10000s following zombies

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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 1:32PM

^ Ok. Totally agree. Darek. All of your posts have been of a positive kind. So no hard feelings
At this moment the top priority is Veronica's health to get better so that she can get on with her life for the future in whatever she does.

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 22 2017 : 5:51PM

^^ Lots of girls buy twitter followers, as do lots of businesses and celebrities. its big business selling them to people who think they are budding social media stars who think they are instagram stars or youtubers... they pump up those numbers in a big way.
The companies that sell them are very sophisticated. They create emails, twitter and facebook accounts, make and share posts, put up random photos, etc.. all to make it look like they are legit so these "find fake followers" programs dont work. some of them create over a million profiles and sell them over and over again in packages. They buy prepaid phones by the shitload for emails that require phone number verification, facebook,etc. Once all the start up costs are done and they have their package of of social media accounts, its just maintain and let the money roll in. The more an account is sold, the more it looks legit as it is following and sharing more and more content, and so forth. Then the accounts follow each other to grow their base as well. It may cost them 50 bucks in labor and costs to get one social media account active with a twitter, instagram, facebook, etc.. but they can sell it an unlimited amount of times to be a twitter follower, facebook like, instagram follower, youtube follower, etc.
If someone were to invest a 100 grand in building a venture like this; as long as their sales funnel is busy, they can create a long term stream of sales income that can be thousands and thousands of dollars a month or more after the monthly expenses of employees and office and such are covered.
Edited by - A_Fan on 9/22/2017 5:59:11 PM

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Tipsey McStagger
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Posted - Sep 27 2017 : 9:27PM

MOD:
Read the forum etiquette
Edited by - Flash on 9/27/2017 10:30:28 PM

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A_Fan
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Posted - Sep 27 2017 : 10:14PM

^quite the first post.
Can we make up more ideas too? Maybe she is a CIA agent and was under cover in porn ,and this is a way to bring her back to Langley and send her back to her old life? Maybe she is secretly planning to transition to male? Maybe she is pregnant with quadruplets due to a woman over 40 using a fertility clinic? Any more cool ideas as to why she is not performing?

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Tipsey McStagger
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Posted - Sep 27 2017 : 10:44PM

I had the truth posted in the previous posting, but the "MOD" took it down, so maybe there is a conspiracy (CIA entanglement?) afterall..LOL
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MOD:
I honestly have no idea why you are so intent on giving out her personal information. This is not the site to do it at.
Edited by - Flash on 9/28/2017 2:52:40 PM
Nothing posted is not something PUBLICLY AVAILABLE for anyone with an internet connection to search for, view and make their own opinions about.
*The woman known as Veronica Avluv is not being accurately described in this forum and by shedding light on the truth and quelling the misnomers about her here-in could only be productive in the pursuit of the facts/truth about her. May the truth set you free.
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Brummie
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Posted - Sep 28 2017 : 1:16AM

Why not trust Veronica and just go by what Veronica has Tweeted so far?. We are supposed to be loyal fans of Veronica so we should repay that loyalty by trusting what she says.

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