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Druber
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 1:11PM
Why can porn companies not take better care of their girls?! Look at Shyla: In October she will be 2 years in the biz. 16 IAFD-titles, with upcoming GBG 34 it will be 17. Apart form Slap Happy, her first movie, all anal as far as I know, 4 daps (each better than the other). At 240 seconds she helds the current dap-record. A raincoaters dream. And? Joined JKP last month! This means wasted talent, a wasted ass, a nice round ass for hundrets of fans to lust after, without being taken advantage of. Shit, oh holy shit!
Two years in the biz. Most films (11) for Ana/Dia and Evil Angel. Belladonna has done 79 in the same time, a near endless, mouth-watering ass-rampage. Some call her over-exposed, most still cannot get enough. Me too! And of Shyla I would have bought 100 anal-themed dvds last year only, if available.
Why can other companies take over our most capable raincoat-friendly girls that easily?! Something with the talent care at Ana/Dia/EA must be WRONG. Cant they propose those willing sluts a role every two weeks for a fair amount of money? Cant they push them further and further. A garanteed minimal income for a year as long as they deliver and good extra money for extra stunts. No exclusive contract maybe. I would not mind Ana/Dia, EA and Rosebud to share them. But please: use those girls while they are still fresh+willing. Exploit the well, while it is gushing, so to speak.
For Shyla, like dotzens before, it is too late now. She is a victim of failed talent care. And we are victims, too. Dammit!
Please take care of your girls, Ana/Dia/EA!


Druber

DenverDon
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 1:23PM
Druber,

It might be just a case of the performer deciding to do things differently.

“Been There – Done That – Going to do Things Differently Now”

I’m pretty sure that no one (JKP for example) is twisting their arm and coercing them into the exclusive contract against their will.


DenverDon

coffeycurve
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 1:35PM
druber

relax, man. i would think that all that ass abuse might take it's toll after a while and maybe they just plain don't enjoy it anymore. people change and maybe she still enjoys having sex on camera for money but the thrill of geting her ass treated like a garbage can has lost its luster. bottom line is there's no way to tell what people, especially these people, are thinking and that things change and we deal with it. i'm sure there'll be another shyla down the road, but for God's sake just enjoy the DVDs of her you do have and quit yer moaning. we tend to forget that they are people too with real feelings and what they may have liked once, they may no longer wish to participate in and that we just have to deal with it.

Druber
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 1:45PM
Fair enough, but she has done it for 2 years now. She just did this GBG34 set and apparently it was ok with her. All I am sayinf is: If those companies had cared about her, they had given her MORE roles in the past 2 years. She would have earned more money, I would have spent more. A win-win-situation for her and the companies she was working for.
And sure I would have enjoyed to watch it...

Druber

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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 1:58PM
and there was me thinking this thread would have something to do with Daniella Rush's recent accident.
 
-lunacy-
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 4:27PM
I'm willing to bet this has a lot to do with it.

Maybe she wanted to be able to shit normally for awhile.

coffeycurve
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 5:15PM
mila
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 7:28PM
It was SHYLA's decision to join Jill Kelly productions. Jill's company gives girls a different image to the consumers than some of us "raincoater" companies do, and that pretty-girl image was what Shyla was looking for.

The other answers so far have been right on about most of the girls who decide to tame things down. Sometimes being at a convention is a sure-fire way for an anal queen to realize how many of the fans actually look at her - I believe your words dealt with someone to "exploit."

At Evil Angel, we don't believe in exploiting anyone. Noone can come into this business and know ahead of time exactly how many movies they are going to make before they decide to move on to different things. We wouldn't want to lock someone in to having to do a certain number of movies under contract, and then have to force them to do the scenes because the girl got burned out. Then it's not a winning situation: the girl's unhappy, and the scenes are crappy.
On a personal note, I also did a Gangbang Girl movie. It's one of my most-talked about scenes. I enjoyed myself alot, and don't regret it one bit. But I never did another gangbang again, because I had already experienced it, and there was nothing else for me to explore about gangbangs.

Obviously companies like the one I'm at do take care of our girls - according to your post, Shyla did the majority of pre-Jill movies for Evil Angel and Anabolic. Why would someone so selective continue to work for us if she hadn't liked working for us. Shyla's performances were very real, and I don't doubt for a second that she enjoyed doing the scenes that she was in. However, SHE made the choice to move on when she felt it was time. Congratulations to her. At least none of us have to watch her in a scene doing something that she no longer felt like doing.
Contracts with the pretty-girl companies like Vivid and Wicked are snapped up faster than you can say "" because those companies lend their name to getting the girls more money on the road as feature strippers. No strip club is going to pay a girl top dollar for a booking just because she holds the record for dap. The clubs need to book girls that the average non-obsessive- porn-viewing strip club crowd recognizes.

DenverDon
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 8:02PM
Some very good comments Tricia.

Thank you.

DenverDon

Planet Sex
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 8:03PM
Now that Tricia pointed that out, I just noticed that a lot of Evil Angel movies are more about worshipping the female form, rather than exploiting it.

Joey Silvera is the best example I can think of, but even in Jules Jordan´s filthier outings it´s pretty clear that the ladies are the ones in charge or the action.

.....
"I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist; I'm not a slave to a world
that doesn't give a shit".

BIGmike
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Posted - Sep 12 2002 : 8:30PM
Sure it sucks that Shyla will probably not be doing the nasty stuff for a while.

In a few reviews I've read on her they described her as having "the American stripper look" or something along those lines. & She obviously knows that many men, and ladies, would probably sell their house for a go at her... so why not do some dancing. Can you blame her?

Sure it seems like she is abandoning "hardcore" porn, but look at this way, she's young, in a few years, or even months, she may return to break the dap record. Perhaps even the triple double?

---BIGmike, over & out!---

Druber
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 8:09AM
I never said you would or should <exploit> those girls. I wrote: <But please: use those girls while they are still fresh+willing. Exploit the well, while it is gushing, so to speak.> Maybe I should have written pick the fruits while they are ripe.
Especially in 2001 Shyla obviousely enjoyed all that <extreme> anal stuff I am so much after. Still she did only a very few scenes for Evil Angel. (While Belladonna for instance did over 20 for Evil/Elegant in the same time)

Therefore I just do wonder: Did she really not want to do more? Or was she not offerend more scenes?
To encourage a gifted and willing actress to perform more, that is what I mean with <a company caring about an actress>.


Obviously companies like the one I'm at do take care of our girls - according to your post, Shyla did the majority of pre-Jill movies for Evil Angel and Anabolic. Why would someone so selective continue to work for us if she hadn't liked working for us. Shyla's performances were very real, and I don't doubt for a second that she enjoyed doing the scenes that she was in. However, SHE made the choice to move on when she felt it was time. Congratulations to her. At least none of us have to watch her in a scene doing something that she no longer felt like doing.

I sincerely do respect Shylas decision. Especially as like another poster pointed out, she probabely wants to earn some extra money on the strip circus. Of course she is entiteled to get the maximum buck out of her body. If she was burned-out with hardcore even better.
But I do mourn the fact that she left me back with such a little number of hard anal scenes (shot in the past 2 years when she still was an active hardcore performer).

And: I will not lust after her ass watching her strip! Only new fresh torn teeny ass will get me going. (While I do hope Syla comes back soon and does that promised triple double!)

Druber

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