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fadrdaev2222
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Posted - Nov 22 2019 : 2:09PM
I think it is no secret to anyone that many girls find themselves in porn through bed, at least the size of reward for scene at first time directly depends on how well model showed itself at the director's casting. Interested in videos of such castings. Especially the recordings of Ben English castings, he is known for forcing his models to fuck with him for free. Rights are right, but he has ideal size cock and fucks perfectly!

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fadrdaev2222
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Posted - Dec 1 2019 : 1:57AM
Anything?
pat362
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Posted - Dec 1 2019 : 12:09PM
^Do you actually expect anyone to offer some possible suggestion when you basically accused someone of a crime? How many videos have you seen in your life where you knew for a fact that a crime had been perpetrated and nothing came of it?
fadrdaev2222
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Posted - Dec 1 2019 : 12:48PM
Why you think that it crime? There are castings in mainstream cinema too. It's absolutely normal!
 
Mrc68
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Posted - Dec 3 2019 : 3:25PM
What is Ben English castings? Is there a website?
pat362
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Posted - Dec 3 2019 : 4:38PM
^^Because if you force someone to have sex with you than it is at best coercion or in some cases sexual assault.
AngryPirate
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Posted - Dec 3 2019 : 4:43PM
^^^ Perhaps you should follow the news? It's no secret that Ben English has been accused by several performers of sexual assault, fraud and other illegal activities. He is also accused of coercing women in to sexual favours so their careers can be boosted.

Pat362 isn't denying the casting process, that's absurd if not condescending. If there were videos of English's casting process in circulation that corroborate the allegations against him, he'd be in a world of shit right now. If videos exist that show him to be innocent of the same allegations, why has he not submitted them in his defence against the complaint?

Edited by - AngryPirate on 12/3/2019 4:43:57 PM

fadrdaev2222
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Posted - Dec 3 2019 : 5:44PM
Listen, if girls didn't want to fuck with him, they would not fuck. Everything was originally by mutual agreement, this is part of game. Videos may be shooting sex, but no coercion. These are ordinary sales, the buyer (agency) evaluates whether he needs the goods (girl) on a long-term basis. Want to the club - ride on agent's cock, just business.
AngryPirate
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Posted - Dec 4 2019 : 2:42AM
^ Are you really that naive? I don't know if it's misogyny on your part or having the luxury of never having been in such a predicament but there are plenty of things people wouldn't ordinarily do but in order to get somewhere or survive in extreme cases, they would do it if they felt it was necessary.

I assume you're a Weinstein apologist as the allegations against him were "just business"?

fadrdaev2222
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Posted - Dec 5 2019 : 12:18PM
What nonsense are you talking about. Pornstars are people with an income above the average, many lead a rather luxurious lifestyle. What kind of survival are you talking about? This is a conscious step by people who are not ready to work as waiters and janitors. Everything has a price.
Refrain from your comparisons, I did not offend anyone
AngryPirate
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Posted - Dec 5 2019 : 3:44PM
It's hardly a trade secret that the industry isn't as lucrative as it once was. Porn actresses often have to supplement their income with cam work, custom content and/or stripping in addition to shooting on set. If a porn actress is living a life of luxury, it's likely to be someone who has established herself well. They're not a bunch of newbies living it up in a way that fits your idealized narrative that the money comes easy. If you wish to keep deluding yourself, that's your business but you're wasting your time telling others Pepsi is Coca-Cola.

The fact that you stated Ben English is known for forcing women to perform sexual acts is an admission on your part that he has coerced or sexually assaulted them despite your nonsensical claims to the contrary. Consent doesn't involve force unless you're simulating such force or does your misogyny blind you? If your assertion that x and y are part of the game, why is the legal complaint against him being given an audience?

I wasn't talking about survival in the context of the porn industry but generally. Aron Ralston (sp?) for example cut his own arm off to survive after becoming trapped - I doubt he would have wanted to do that ordinarily. In a rather less extreme case, a porn actress may not want to have sex with her agent but if she feared not doing it would lead to her being blacklisted by the mainstream industry, she may still go ahead with it anyway albeit under duress.

I wasn't comparing you to Weinstein, I was calling you an apologist. There's a difference between compared to a person and being called an apologist for them.

pat362
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Posted - Dec 5 2019 : 4:37PM
Ultimately I think this thread is dead on arrival because the subject at the heart of the discussion doesn't exist or if there are videos like that then they are in the hand of private citizens who have a vested interest in never releasing it. That said. Women who accept to be filmed having sex don't get paid for the act itself but the right to film and usually broadcast it. Now we all know that what they do on film will greatly affect the price the are paid but unlike prostitutes. They aren't being paid for sex. That's a very important distinction to make.

If a producer tells a possible employee(that is the type of relationship in this story) that he wants to fuck her for free because he basically wants to try the merchandise before buying it than his ultimate goal is not to film something that he can market but to fuck her. The fact that she accepts is irrelevant because a crime as occurred. He coerced her into doing something that she had not planned to do but chose to because she felt she had to do it to get the job. He compounded his crime by in effect promising her money at a later date so he paid for sex and that is solicitation.

Porn Scout
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Posted - Dec 5 2019 : 5:34PM
This is kind of a funny thread. I halfway suspect the OP was trolling. But yeah, as pat says there are no Ben English casting videos.

Also, most girls that enter porn never make much money off of it. Once they become established some can make a decent living off of it if they learn how to budget and don't blow all their money shopping and partying. The more business-minded girls figure out ways to add additional revenue streams to their income.

AngryPirate
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Posted - Dec 6 2019 : 2:47AM
^^ But the OP has special inside knowledge. He's an expert on the industry so any attempt to speak logically about the concepts of coercion and consent are an attack on his knowledge of the way the business works.
 
pat362
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Posted - Dec 6 2019 : 10:05AM
^^I usually give the benefit of the doubt to any poster who isn't a newbie and since fad already has 100 post then I took him at his word and assumed that what he wrote is what he believes. I can't help but feel that since Ben or Derek as we now know him is in the news recently that the OP had some kind of axe to grind with him.

Do I believe that there is a casting couch in the porn industry. Of course there is. I mean the entire #Me Too Movement is in large part because there is one in the mainstream entertainment industry and this is an industry where the victims have talent agencies with multi-million dollar attorneys on retainer. I seem to remember a story about one particular agent or producer who used to have sex with his models and sometime(maybe all the time) film it because I'm pretty sure I saw pics or part of those videos. I think he got blacklisted from the industry because of that but it was a long time ago and I don't remember enough to offer more info.




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