ive seen alot of modern porn, and there is alot of deepthroat and gagging as standard... how much they used to do deepthroat but nobody gagged once in vintage porn? Can you show me DVD or scene where they gag and face fuck roughly in vintage porn?
^I'm sure that it must exist but it will be quite rare because vintage porn didn't go for the level of misogyny that modern porn seems doomed to do. If you are a fan of vintage porn than the deep throat gagging should not be something that you want to see in that type of porn. You already get plenty of that in the porn made in the last 10-20 years.
I wish I rememebered the name lf the movie, but it's been way too long, In the 80's I saw a flick featuring Jeanette Littledove. It was a series of romantic vignettes, each introduced by Jeanette. As the movie progresses she appears wearing less and less. In the final scene she appears in a white terricloth robe and red heels. Her husband, Buck Adams shows up. She looks absolutely stunning. He appears to have snorted way too much cocaine. He's almost literally eating his face. The romanticism devolves quickly. He rips her robe off and begins agressively stabbing away at random orifices. A couple of minutes in Buck has an epiphany. He straddles her face and starts pumping away, using his wife's mouth as a vagina. She gags a bit, likely wondering if her husband has just discovered a new sexual act. He asks 'Are you choking down there?'. He doesn't seem to mean it. Her response was something like 'djskaooeorkf'. Some of you may find that pleasing.
Wow that sounds amazing... whats the name of the movie? Need more examples like this? I saw Deep Throat Drinkers, and there is a scene where a woman is deepthroating while on top and her throws up spit and saliva and like a pro just carried on... sooo sexy !!
Well, that's not quite accurate. We certainly don't have nearly as many outright rape scenes in porn these days. A rape sequence seemed to be a generic requirement back in the day. I remember a gagging scene between Jamie Gillis and Serena. Maybe it was THE ECSTASY GIRLS...I don't think it was, though, because I've seen that movie so many times. He straddles her face, and she gags multiple times, that's all I really remember about it.
omg that sounds soooo hot... theres something about vintage and gagging that makes it sooo tabooo and sexy! (not to be compared with gagging these days)
I agree with you that rape or pseudo-rape was a fairly common theme in quite a few golden age porn movies but these were an integral part of the whole story. Don't we in some ways have what would have once been deemed kind of pseudo-rape scenes in many of the gonzo porn videos made in the last 15 to 20 years? Maybe it's just me but the way the men treat the women in too many gonzo videos feels a lot like actions I would expect to see in a rape scene without any of the actual context a story driven movie would have. Of course you and I both know that it's not an actual rape scene because all the participants are aware of what will happen and can't stop what is happening at any time and yet the recent incidents involving Nikki Benz and to a large extant everything surrounding the much publicized Stoya incident makes me think that maybe performers aren't always able to feel safe on a porn set. Edited by - pat362 on 12/30/2016 11:05:01 AM
^ Those stories can also be found in vintage porn. That scene in 800 Fantasy Lane, for example. Grim. And a few other Jamie Gillis stories, Ron Jeremy/Ginger Lynn, etc etc... I agree that the narrative context does make a difference, but the sheer quantity of raped-into-loving-it scenes in otherwise non-rape movies from the 70s and 80s is arguably more unsettling than the enthusiastic "degrade me, I love it" content of today which is not rape or assault even if you don't like those sex acts. (I don't mean stuff like Facial Abuse--that's a different kettle of fish that I don't want to waste time disparaging). Still, I would like more verbal communication in the current stuff which would make clear there is consent and that communication about consent and desire is sexy and important. I'm also not necessarily condemning all the rape sequences of the 70s and 80s, fyi. Some of them are quite complex and some even seem to be appealing to a female eye. The pattern is suggestive, however. Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 12/30/2016 11:13:20 AM
Thanks for getting back to me! I dont think its that movie. Would be good to know of other movies or scenes where cock is just "too much" and you hear "some" gagging and discomfort.. I have to say even porn in the mid/late 90's didnt have much gagging but alot of deep throat... Edited by - indian_cpl2013 on 12/30/2016 2:31:48 PM
does any one know if "little oral annie" gagged while performing? I found a scene with an arab (i think its ron jeremy) and he roughly fucks her throat good but no gagging...
i found a vintage clip by "Careena Collins". The video is with a black guy and she is properly throat fucked, shes in discomfort and alot of spit. its soooo sexy!! [mod edit: comment removed. don't tell people how to find the vid on a tube site. That's the same as sending people to a tube site. No Tube Site Links!!!!!!!!!! For ID questions] Let me know what you think of the scene? Edited by - killbillvol69 on 12/30/2016 3:44:27 PM
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I've seen her feature INSIDE LITTLE ORAL ANNIE and don't recall any, It is very rare in vintage films, probably limited to a few of the rape scenarios that GGG discussed. Something to remember is that a very large amount of 'gagging' in today's porn is strictly done for the camera and exaggerated. I think it was some early Rocco material that populaized it. I find most of it rather boring these days. At least the duck-like squawking larms to have largely disappeared. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/30/2016 3:18:39 PM
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I wouldn't consider a scene between Careena Collins and Sean Michaels 'vintage.' She was a prominent performer in the classic gonzo period of the 90s. Vintage tends to be used in reference to the 70s and earlier.
Agreed that CC isnt "vintage".. Gagging these days is done for cameras but that CC scene was clearly discomfort for her and clearly "too much" for her to take. It makes it very sexy when the performer genuinely struggles, gags, chokes and has spit over there face.
Succulent (1983) Little Oral Annie and Ron Jeremy was a good vintage throat fuck... you could hear the slight gags and apprehension in Annies performance. If only she gags more..
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