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23skidoo
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29 Posts
9/06
Posted - Sep 8 2006 : 4:59PM
I know it just came out, but I'm curious if anyone has seen it yet.
grover All-Star Supporter
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11/04
Posted - Sep 9 2006 : 11:38AM
Not yet. But I've got it on order.

G

Derek117
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1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Sep 9 2006 : 7:02PM
There was a delay in the duplication/shipping of "Emperor", according to yesterday's AVN online. So, it's late--but not too late to miss consideration for the January 2007 AVN Awards. [Interesting that Vivid can't get out a video, on time, that was completed in the winter of 2004. But, that's another story.]

"Emperor" appears to be the sexvid that Vivid has chosen to go head-to-head with Digital Playground in what is becoming their annual competition at the AVNs for "top company" bragging rights. Last year it was "Pirates" vs. "The New Devil in Miss Jones." Vivid won more awards, but DP copped a lot of the quality awards they were up for.

This year, DP's standard bearer is "Island Fever 4".

Neither video has hit the streets yet ("Emperor" will hit first) so the only thing I have to go on are the trailers; with the "Island Fever 4" trailer on the web for a week or so, and the "Emperor" trailer having just become available on the Vivid site (members section)yesterday.

Based on the trailers, the early money is on "Island Fever 4"--but I've got both on order, and will give my final opinion after seeing the complete products.

By the way, and hopefully not getting too far off topic, "The Surrender of O" from Adam & Eve, and starring Carmen Luvana also looks like a must-see. And could be a "spoiler" at awards time.

Edited by - Derek117 on 9/9/2006 7:03:48 PM

Edited by - Derek117 on 9/9/2006 7:08:44 PM

bbrudy
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chicago
537 Posts
7/03
Posted - Sep 11 2006 : 10:59AM
I know manuel ferrara plasters Janine dead on with a bigg facial in Emperor.... bbrudy
TheLoneGunman
Member

400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Sep 11 2006 : 11:49AM
Well, if we're simply judging on PQ (picture quality), there's no doubt ISLAND FEVER 4 will be superior. EMPEROR was shot back in 2004, in full frame and I'm guessing on film stock. ISLAND FEVER 4 was shot this year with HD cameras.
 
23skidoo
Member

29 Posts
9/06
Posted - Sep 12 2006 : 9:51AM
Thanks for the posts. Not to stray even further off topic -- and I know it's been brought up many times in the forum -- but I don't get why it takes Vivid so long to put its stuff on the market when the turnaround for other companies is so much shorter. I know the reason is $$$, but does that mean Vivid's other movies are so crappy that it has to hold on to stuff shot years ago just so it can be assured of a payday now? Jenna's b/g comeback was great, but before this movie even hit the street, she had jumped to another company and then retired. "Janine Loves Jenna" is another example, though the circumstances are a bit different; can we expect another Janine movie from Vivid next year?
23skidoo
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29 Posts
9/06
Posted - Sep 12 2006 : 9:52AM
Oops, meant Janine's b/g comeback.
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Posted - Sep 12 2006 : 7:46PM
I believe it's to hype-up the release.

Janine has retired. So, I doubt it.

G

Derek117
Senior Member

1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Sep 12 2006 : 11:35PM
Also, it seems to me that Vivid spaces the release of their product so they only have one or two "big" sexvids out per year. This way they're not competing with themselves for the annual awards--last year it was "Devil" this year "Emperor".

To stay, for a few more minutes, off topic:

Vivid also uses a "pecking order" with their Vivid Girls. Savanna Samson, Tera Patrick & Jenna appear in most of the "big" award worthy productions (Savanna has been the "favorite daughter" at Vivid for a long time).

Newer girls--in the past it was Tawny Roberts, Lexie Marie, Sunrise Adams; now it's Monique Alexander--are the "hottie" 20-something work horses that appear in numerous sexvids. And bring in most of the money. The up-and-comers are promised that they'll get to star in a prestige, award worthy sexvid in the future. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Liquidnoose
Member

Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer
226 Posts
1/05
Posted - Sep 16 2006 : 7:07PM
Just got EMPEROR...will have some thoughts in a few days.
Liquidnoose
Member

Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer
226 Posts
1/05
Posted - Sep 17 2006 : 7:57PM
This is light years better then the SACRED SIN mess. I enjoyed the scenes..very rough...has a definite 1970's look and feel to the movie and the Euro stars were definitley a plus this time around.

Just basically scanned the sex scenes no idea of plot yet.

ANd it is truy that MF showrs Janine's face....and is this the first time Janine has squirtedon film? That was probably the hottest scene.

A gngbang or 2...multiple Rocco scenes...totally enjoyable and rec'd!

Derek117
Senior Member

1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Sep 17 2006 : 11:54PM
I just viewed this sexvid for the first time, too, and you're right. The sex is "rough" (especially the Tawny Roberts and Dasha scenes) which is what Vivid seems to want. Since I'm not a fan of rough sex, "Emperor" doesn't work for me, and it will be interesting to see if long-time Vivid customers (like me) stay with them. And given that Vivid sells more sexvids (in stores, over the internet, on cable, etc.) then anybody else this could be a real profit/loss gamble. I guess they're counting on making-up for any loses in "couples" customers with new customers who like their porn harder.

We'll see.

Alexander Portnoy
Member

Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None.
275 Posts
12/05
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 9:35AM
Despite Rocco and Man F.'s reputation for making rough and degrading porn I may have bought this one based on the presence of Janine and Dasha. But thanks for the 411, this one is not for me.

Like Derek117, though I'm wondering about the reliablity of Vivid DVD's post the new 'harder' production code. The only Vivid film I've seen since the new code was instituted is "Savanna's Secret.' I was pleasantly surprised with this DVD. Savanna's two scenes in this one rank high in my book but the rest are forgettable.

For those of you have seen both films how would you compare 'Savanna's Secret,' to the 'The Emperor,' in terms of the depiction of sex acts? Is the sex in 'The Emperor," rougher than the sex in 'Savanna's Secret,' or about the same? How would you rate it?

Lastly, Vivid is touting 'The Flasher,' starring Savanna Samson and slated to be released next month as a big budget awards season extravaganza. It may be one to keep an eye out for. Is there any advance buzz on this flick?

Edited by - alexander portnoy on 9/18/2006 9:36:20 AM

23skidoo
Member

29 Posts
9/06
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 10:37AM
I saw the trailer to the movie earlier this year, and the brief clip of Janine getting drenched was incredible. How many scenes is she in?
TheLoneGunman
Member

400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 11:26AM
If you think SACRED SIN is a mess and EMPEROR isn't, I really don't know what to tell you. I thought SACRED was brilliant and EMPEROR only so-so.
That's because the shoddy camera work (can't Thomas at least try to FOCUS the camera every now and then?!) and poor transfer (heavy grain and dirt) make it look like it was SHOT in 1970!
 
bigfoot
Senior Member

1295 Posts
7/06
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 12:00PM
Just got it today. Will comment in ten minutes, er, uh....about a day.
Liquidnoose
Member

Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer
226 Posts
1/05
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 12:39PM
SACRED SIN is worthless as jerk-off material...which is what I use porn for...EMPEROR at least has some jerk worthy scenes...SS has zero. It is artsy which is fine and dandy...and the 2 Eddie Van halen instrumentals are pretty cool but most will find SS too artsy to crank out a batch to.

Janine is in 3-4 scenes that I can recall...all are pretty good..not into the older wider tatooer Janine but it was very good.

TheLoneGunman
Member

400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 1:46PM
I'm wondering why you'd buy either...neither of these are marketed towards "raincoaters". I would have thought you'd know that going in (considering both Paul Thomas' and Michael Ninn's history of work).

Liquidnoose
Member

Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer
226 Posts
1/05
Posted - Sep 18 2006 : 4:28PM
I've always liked Vivid's stuff...and Wifey digs Janine...and John Val Jean.

I bought Ninn's because of my support of Eddie Van Halen and wanted to see a Ninn flick..haven't seen any NinnWorx stuff before...now I know.

mapofhawaii
Senior Member

1050 Posts
3/06
Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 7:39PM
Rented this yesterday, but I haven't watched the whole thing yet. The incident between Janine and Rocco forced PT to change the script and it shows. There are several "cut" scenes that didn't make the final version. One of them is Janine sucking off Rocco in a car. Why PT would cut that is anyone's guess. Unless it was just so they could tout the "bonus scenes". There is also a little bit of Julian joining Rocco and Janine in a theater. In the commentary, PT said that Julian was cut out of the scene and the film because he couldn't stay hard or pop. I'm sure Julian loves him saying that.

In the Behind the Scenes section, Janine is sitting on PT's lap talking about the Rocco incident. She is diplomatic about Rocco's behavior, but at one point she asked if she could say what happened. PT tells her to say whatever she wants, but then seconds later said that they don't need to get into it and shuts her up.

What's funny is that Tawny Roberts is the one who gave him a black eye when she slapped him during their rough sex scene. It was before the actual sex got going though.

Anyway, one thing that annoyed me in the commentary is how PT kept talking about how great the movie is. He definitely has a giant ego.

The Janine/Manuel Ferrara scene is the highlight. The facial is ok, but not as good as I expected from the reviews. Most of it hits her tongue and lower jaw/chin. It wasn't all over her face though. Still, a nice scene.

Edited by - mapofhawaii on 9/24/2006 7:40:48 PM

Edited by - mapofhawaii on 9/24/2006 7:41:08 PM

R-Jam
Member

40 Posts
9/11
Posted - Apr 22 2024 : 2:29PM



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