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The Gemologist
Member


Isn't she cute?
217 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 11:10PM
I have adobe GoLive for building a website. Anyone reccomend this program or any other good programs to build websites? ANy good books on the subject too? I know little about web language, but I am good with graphics.

LeChayim!

McX
Maxstretch.com

135 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 15 2005 : 3:07AM
I built and launched Maxstretch.com myself using Photoshop and Dreamweaver and a little bit o' Lyla.

Peace out...

McX

PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Apr 15 2005 : 9:14AM
Assuming you are going to need a database since your other post was asking about selling things, I would suggest using PHP/MySQL. I learned the language pretty in-depth and quickly, but I had a C/C++ background which is what PHP is basically.

When I first built my site I used MS Front page - LOL
Last time I recoded my site, I used NotePad and Adobe PhotoShop

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Apr 15 2005 : 12:14PM
I recommend using a tool like Dreamweaver or Homesite as a text editor. I personally use Homesite. I only use it as a text editor but it does have other features some people might like.

FrontPage is garbage. Stay away from it if you can.

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Apr 15 2005 : 12:15PM
I should have asked if you're on a Mac or PC. I think GoLive is a Mac program, no?
 
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Apr 15 2005 : 1:37PM
I believe you can get it for Windows, too.

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Is this the right time to mention Microsoft FrontPage?

The Gemologist
Member

Isn't she cute?
217 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 15 2005 : 11:53PM
I'm on a PC. I have Golive on my kaptop. I also have frontpage, but never even looked at it.

LeChayim!

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 16 2005 : 1:38AM
Don't bother looking at Frontpage, Gemologist, it produces crappy HTML which you do not want to put on your website. A colleague of mine used it once to produce a page which consisted of just one image with two links in it and it was unusable, it literally takes more time to clean up Frontpage code than to write it from scratch in a texteditor.

Jacco

BrandonCruz
Member

Sitting in God's right hand...
62 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 16 2005 : 4:55AM
dreamweaver works for me.

and the sooner you can figure out flash the better.

Juster
Member

67 Posts
3/03
Posted - Apr 16 2005 : 10:01AM
I used Netobjects fusion and found it very easy to use. I was a complete novice.
GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Apr 16 2005 : 12:03PM
Here is a great web page and basic HTML tutorial.

See: html-helper.net

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

RichB
Member

65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Apr 19 2005 : 12:50PM
Howdy Gemoligist - and howdy to all. This here's my first post and I thought it might be a good thing to start by helping others before I ask favors for myself. I know I'll be hanging here in the Techie section the most.

I'm a newbie web designer and happily using Dreamweaver as some have suggested. But don't get it alone. Get the bundle with Fireworks (layout program) and the rest of the Macromedia tool palette (which incidentally was just revised to CS2). If you're going to present video on your site make sure you get the Flash Pro version pack also. (Also, incidentally, Adobe just bought out Macromedia - so things will get even easier to use in this world....) I also suggest taking a cheap class somehwere local that will allow you to save HUGE by enabling you to buy the software at Education prices.

For books, check out the Visual Quickstart Guides as good reference material. Lynda Weinman also makes really good hands-on type book instruction too. Hope that helped.

EagleSpirit
Member

Somewhere Doing Something Stupid
439 Posts
7/03
Posted - Apr 22 2005 : 2:12AM
Sounds like a lot of people have a thing against HTML but it is the best thing I've come across. It's easy to use and compatable with all browsers.
PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Apr 22 2005 : 10:10AM
Ummm HTML is a product of using DreamWeaver, Front Page and other type apps. Also HTMP is used in web languages like PHP, ASP and so on. Without some kind of HTML education you couldn't used PHP/ASP. DW and the such just basically code the HTML for you so as to give the user a fast, clean graphical interface to play with.

Edited by - PL on 4/22/2005 10:10:10 AM

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 22 2005 : 12:11PM
My preferred tool for HTML and PHP editing: joe


Jacco

 
sir wankalot
Member

UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Apr 22 2005 : 12:36PM
I know absolutely nothing about HTML and programming...so i used Frontpage to build a website (about 200 pages and over 1000 photos).

I am just starting to experience problems with reinstalling 'frontpage extensions' after a server problem.

Some pages are not loading properly and i am thinking i should use a different editor and bypass all these 'frontpage extension' problems.

Would it be relatively straight forward to rebuild my website using Dreamweaver....or would i be completely starting from scratch?

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 22 2005 : 1:11PM
Holy masochist, Batman.
You could at least use Emacs or Vim.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 24 2005 : 7:27PM
No, I just don't want to get drawn in the VI/Emacs debate, so what else is left for the hardcore geek?

Jacco

PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Apr 24 2005 : 8:59PM
Personally I'd start from scratch and learn a web language. You could cut down those 200 pages by making the pages dynamic. All you would use the GET command (for example in PHP) and retrieve them from the URL. Something like one of my review URLs http://www.wcareviews.com/Reviews/movie/556 - that 556 number can be changed and you still use the same page (http://www.wcareviews.com/Reviews/movie) to load all/any movies in the database. Now granted you wouldn't need one, but hey you can still do the URLs, just a little different and according to your needs.

Now I will say since you have no HTML background, this will be tough. So maybe starting from scratch using DreamWeaver would be the best, or even learning HTML and making the pages in an editor.

My editor of choice is called Crimson Editor - nothing fancy, it just colors my mark-ups making it easier for me to read

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 25 2005 : 3:15AM
jed, perhaps? Anything but joe (or jove or pico or nano or ...).



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