Weekend In Fist Fuck Land!

You are not logged in
Log in | Register to Post

Reviewers Recommend

Hookup Hotshot: Internet Sex Addicts 11 - review by Captain Jack
Director: Bryan Gozzling
Starring: Alex Legend, Nade Nasty, Aviana Violet, Alexa Chains, Mira Luv, Lola Grant. Read review

Participate...

log in
register

Browse...

Etiquette
Active Topics
Popular Topics
Member List
Search

All Forums > IAFD Direct > IAFD Direct Forum Page 30 > Weekend In Fist Fuck Land!

Author	Post
Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jun 29 2009 : 6:41PM While the movie title would suggest it is a movie containing fisting acts, it is NOT the case. IAFD indicates that all the female performers are fisted. IAFD defines "fisting" in the glossary as the WHOLE hand going inside. Well, in all the scenes, no hand goes inside a vagina further than the knuckles. It is truly a mediocre movie in all respect. I have seen the house (in the woods) used in the movie in other movies, but I can't recall the titles. The opening performer credits read as follows: Females: Kim, Lisa, Mikki, Phillis, Viper. However who really are the performers in the movie is what is indicated in IAFD database: Ebony Ayes, Lorelei, Chelsea Dallas, Tiffany Storm and Jenny Jones. Can't really match the names on movie credits with performers' known names. The males are billed as: Chet, Don, Ron, which make much sense since "Chet" (his real first name) would be Jon Dough, "Don" is Don Fernando, and "Ron" is Ron Jremy. The scene breakdown is not as it is listed in IAFD. The major problem being is that for older movies IAFD used to break down scenes in 2 or 3 separate scenes even if 4 or more performers were basically in the same scene. For example in the first sex scene, it starts off with Chelsea, Ebony, Ron and Jon, who are later joined by Don and Jenny and later on by Lorelei and Tiffany (this scene goes on forever). Some scenes may have two or 3 performers, then when it is over, Don Fernando may come in (dressed in a ridiculous "Superman" costume, claiming to be "Superfist") and pretend to fist the female performers. A lot of the scenes are that way and it is impossible to say when one scene ends and when another really begins. [Link]
Jeff @ IAFD Webmaster IAFD.COM 931 Posts 6/00	Posted - Jun 29 2009 : 9:44PM Couple things -- just because your version doesn't have fisting, doesn't mean the Euro version didn't. This data was captured by Peter -- it was one of the first movies he took notes on judging by its internal ID, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Also, in the case where one scene takes up half the movie, we break it down into pairings in an effort to help determine who is with whom at any one time. "Scene Breakdowns" should probably be "Scene Breakdowns / Pairings" but we fear that will just make this murkier, not clearer. It was our reasoning that someone watching the movie would be able to discern how to read the breakdown list. [Link]
Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jun 30 2009 : 3:03AM Jeff @ IAFD wrote: Couple things -- just because your version doesn't have fisting, doesn't mean the Euro version didn't. This data was captured by Peter -- it was one of the first movies he took notes on judging by its internal ID, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Also, in the case where one scene takes up half the movie, we break it down into pairings in an effort to help determine who is with whom at any one time. "Scene Breakdowns" should probably be "Scene Breakdowns / Pairings" but we fear that will just make this murkier, not clearer. It was our reasoning that someone watching the movie would be able to discern how to read the breakdown list. Click to expand Jeff, mine is a VHS rip, and the running time is pretty much what is shown on IAFD database (it is a euro version, albeit with english dialogue intact, so I suspect it is the uncut complete version). It is obvious by the way the fisting is portrayed throughout the movie, no deep fisting was intended. You can tell there are no cuts (visually and music), no attempt to lubricate fingers/hands. It is just a ridiculous put on trying to mask itself as a fisting movie, which it is not. We have gone through scene pairings before, in other posts, and I understand it was the way it was done in older movies. The scene pairings and scenes are very hard to nail down in this movie. There are too many people involved, and one scene ends with a certain number of performers then one or two others come and action continues. I tried to make some sense of it, but it is difficult. For instance in 2nd scene Lorelei and Tiffany have a lesbo scene then Don Fernando comes in and pretends to be fisting the two. In the 7th scene Chelsea and Jenny have a shower lesbo scene and are later joined by Jon Dough. The first one is an endless hodpodge which takes up about a third of the movie. It stards with Chelsea, Ebony Ayes, Ron Jaremy and Jon Dough, then little by little other performers join in. [Link]
Don Fernando Member 178 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 4:39AM Len801 wrote: While the movie title would suggest it is a movie containing fisting acts, it is NOT the case. IAFD indicates that all the female performers are fisted. IAFD defines "fisting" in the glossary as the WHOLE hand going inside. Well, in all the scenes, no hand goes inside a vagina further than the knuckles. It is truly a mediocre movie in all respect. I have seen the house (in the woods) used in the movie in other movies, but I can't recall the titles. The opening performer credits read as follows: Females: Kim, Lisa, Mikki, Phillis, Viper. However who really are the performers in the movie is what is indicated in IAFD database: Ebony Ayes, Lorelei, Chelsea Dallas, Tiffany Storm and Jenny Jones. Can't really match the names on movie credits with performers' known names. The males are billed as: Chet, Don, Ron, which make much sense since "Chet" (his real first name) would be Jon Dough, "Don" is Don Fernando, and "Ron" is Ron Jremy. The scene breakdown is not as it is listed in IAFD. The major problem being is that for older movies IAFD used to break down scenes in 2 or 3 separate scenes even if 4 or more performers were basically in the same scene. For example in the first sex scene, it starts off with Chelsea, Ebony, Ron and Jon, who are later joined by Don and Jenny and later on by Lorelei and Tiffany (this scene goes on forever). Some scenes may have two or 3 performers, then when it is over, Don Fernando may come in (dressed in a ridiculous "Superman" costume, claiming to be "Superfist") and pretend to fist the female performers. A lot of the scenes are that way and it is impossible to say when one scene ends and when another really begins. Click to expand Len - Trust me...I hated wearing that tacky Superman outfit but...those were the days LOL As far as fisting in this film, IMHO I think that the director was too timid to shoot this genre fearing he would "injure" the female talent...he was no Gabriel Pontello, that's for sure...GP is the master of fisting movies from France and he had a 2 gallon tub of medical-grade lubrication and us "fisters" would put our whole forearm into it before the scene DF http://xanga.com/donfernando [Link]
Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 9:00AM Don Fernando wrote: Len - Trust me...I hated wearing that tacky Superman outfit but...those were the days LOL As far as fisting in this film, IMHO I think that the director was too timid to shoot this genre fearing he would "injure" the female talent...he was no Gabriel Pontello, that's for sure...GP is the master of fisting movies from France and he had a 2 gallon tub of medical-grade lubrication and us "fisters" would put our whole forearm into it before the scene DF http://xanga.com/donfernando Click to expand Never expected to have one of the performers come and post comments on this thread. I assume that you are the real deal, and are the real Don Fernando. Who was the director, since the movie credits don't indiate and what company released it? You WOULD know what real fisting is, since you did some fisting scenes in Europe, and I have seen pictures posted on line over the years. Was it a question of physically "injuring" the female talent (for this movie) or was the director really too chicken to feature this kind of activity which would have gotten him into trouble, and make this movie pretty much unreleasable in the US? [Link]

Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 9:02AM Len801 wrote: Don Fernando wrote: Len - Trust me...I hated wearing that tacky Superman outfit but...those were the days LOL As far as fisting in this film, IMHO I think that the director was too timid to shoot this genre fearing he would "injure" the female talent...he was no Gabriel Pontello, that's for sure...GP is the master of fisting movies from France and he had a 2 gallon tub of medical-grade lubrication and us "fisters" would put our whole forearm into it before the scene DF http://xanga.com/donfernando Click to expand Never expected to have one of the performers come and post comments on this thread. I assume that you are the real deal, and are the real Don Fernando. Who was the director, since the movie credits don't indiate and what company released it? You WOULD know what real fisting is, since you did some fisting scenes in Europe, and I have seen pictures posted on line over the years. Was it a question of physically "injuring" the female talent (for this movie) or was the director really too chicken to feature this kind of activity which would have gotten him into trouble, and make this movie pretty much unreleasable in the US? One last question, what was the location (house/property) of the movie was shot? I think I have seen it before in other movies of that period. Did you shoot other movies there? Click to expand [Link]
Don Fernando Member 178 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:54AM Len801 wrote: Never expected to have one of the performers come and post comments on this thread. I assume that you are the real deal, and are the real Don Fernando. Who was the director, since the movie credits don't indiate and what company released it? You WOULD know what real fisting is, since you did some fisting scenes in Europe, and I have seen pictures posted on line over the years. Was it a question of physically "injuring" the female talent (for this movie) or was the director really too chicken to feature this kind of activity which would have gotten him into trouble, and make this movie pretty much unreleasable in the US? One last question, what was the location (house/property) of the movie was shot? I think I have seen it before in other movies of that period. Did you shoot other movies there? Click to expand Click to expand Len - I am the real Don Fernando more known as a veteran industry director as Asianman...trust me; Ramsey and his co-moderators,et al make great efforts to verify by a screeening process that adult industry members here (producers, directors and talent) really are who they say they are; I would be surprised if they have ever been fooled. Moving on; the director was John T. Bone and since I never saw the movie, I have no clue who released it. At that time fisting, incest and rape portrayal was not yet frowned upon by The DOJ but the girls were not able to take Ron's or Jon's whole fist hence the "4 Finger Fakery" The film was shot in a great location in Marin County commonly named "The Novato Ranch". The first time that I can remember shooting there was for Charles DeSantos in "Passion Pit" with a then (unknown by anyone except by herself and God) 16 year old Traci Lords Lots of directors; including the late Duck Dumont, Alex De Renzy and Teddy Paramore, shot there because of it's remote and isolated location - hell...the nearest neighbor was 5 clicks away! I remember that John T. Bone shot many of his films there including "Sumo Sue and The Fat Ladies of Wrestling". Little trivia: "Weekend In Fist Fuck Land" was originally named "Superfist" (that was where the Superman costume sewn by John's porn actress GF came in) but the rumour was that Marvel Comics had a problem with that and hence the title change soon after it's release. Don "Asianman" Fernando http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsianXClub http://xanga.com/donfernando [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 2:36AM Superman belongs to DC Comics not Marvel Don: great info I consider you being one of the luckiest guys alive. Would love to see you in action as a performer again! [Link]
Don Fernando Member 178 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 3:05AM Jaktarn wrote: Superman belongs to DC Comics not Marvel Don: great info I consider you being one of the luckiest guys alive. Would love to see you in action as a performer again! Click to expand Jaktarn - Huh! ...I have never stopped performing in my 32 years in The Biz although in the USA I mostly focus on directing. I have done around 50 BJ POV scenes for AsianSexTrip.com and AsianAmericanGirls.com and regularly work in Hungary, Czech Republic and Italy for the great Mario Salieri and his Mario Salieri Productions; in fact, am leaving Sunday for Budapest to work for MSP. Last December I went to Thailand and shot for 3 weeks with my Laotian/Thai cameragirl (also my GF) which culminated in Home Made In Thailand Volumes 1-3 which are distributed by Black Market Releasing. And yes...I am one of the luckiest guys alive - blessed with excellent health due in large part to a healthy diet and lifestyle at 61...look at my recent pic taken in Honolulu at http://myspace.com/the_real_don_fernando BTW - I realized that DC Comics produces the Superman comic publication(s) but in the 11 months that I have been away from ADT the posting page changed and I couldn't figure out how to edit a post but just figured it out. Don "Asianman" Fernando http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsianXClub http://xanga.com/donfernando Edited by - Don Fernando on 9/25/2009 3:11:36 AM [Link]
Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02	Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 8:54AM Don Fernando wrote: Ramsey and his co-moderators,et al make great efforts to verify by a screeening process that adult industry members here (producers, directors and talent) really are who they say they are; I would be surprised if they have ever been fooled. Click to expand Ramsey? [Link]
Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 9:07AM Thanks for the additional info Don. But do you know why John T. Bone did NOT put his name on the movie, and why he would slap those silly and fake female performers names on the movie credits at the beginning of the movie? Those people did have porn names and were well known at that time. What gives? And about the fisting, do you recall from discussions that took place during the shooting of the movie that it was really the intention of Bone to shoot or NOT to shoot full fisting scenes? In looking at the finished product (and really Don it is really a lame poorly made movie) one can see that it can't be called trickery. There is no lubrication of the hand or pussy, or any effort in trying to get the hand inside the girls' pussies. Just 3 or 4 fingers and very comically done (whether intended or not). You mention your "superfist" comstume was made by Bone's girlfriend? Care to mention her name (was she a porn actress)? Did she work behind or in front of the camera in that movie? Can I ask an OT question: do you recall what was you very hc feature film (I know in those days porn performers did loops and photo layouts, but I am talking about a feature length porn movie exhibited in cinema theaters)? Thanks. [Link]
Don Fernando Member 178 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:37PM Walter Burns wrote: Don Fernando wrote: Ramsey and his co-moderators,et al make great efforts to verify by a screeening process that adult industry members here (producers, directors and talent) really are who they say they are; I would be surprised if they have ever been fooled. Click to expand Ramsey? Click to expand Hi Walter. It's a typo ...meant to write "Walter" Don "Asianman" Fernando http://xanga.com/donfernando [Link]
Don Fernando Member 178 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 4:08AM Len801 wrote: Thanks for the additional info Don. But do you know why John T. Bone did NOT put his name on the movie, and why he would slap those silly and fake female performers names on the movie credits at the beginning of the movie? Those people did have porn names and were well known at that time. What gives? Click to expand I am only speculating but it may have had something to do with the name change. And about the fisting, do you recall from discussions that took place during the shooting of the movie that it was really the intention of Bone to shoot or NOT to shoot full fisting scenes? In looking at the finished product (and really Don it is really a lame poorly made movie) one can see that it can't be called trickery. There is no lubrication of the hand or pussy, or any effort in trying to get the hand inside the girls' pussies. Just 3 or 4 fingers and very comically done (whether intended or not). Click to expand I am pretty sure that the comical aspect was because of the director's vision of the screenplay. You mention your "superfist" comstume was made by Bone's girlfriend? Care to mention her name (was she a porn actress)? Did she work behind or in front of the camera in that movie? Click to expand His GF was Misty Regan, as you can see she was not in the credits at IAFD and by then she worked mostly behind the camera Can I ask an OT question: do you recall what was you very hc feature film (I know in those days porn performers did loops and photo layouts, but I am talking about a feature length porn movie exhibited in cinema theaters)? Thanks. Click to expand I do recall it... I did my first scene; a loop, on September 19, 1977 for Jay Gladstone in San Francisco. Word got around about my ability to come 4 full loads within a 1 hour period and next thing I know I am on a set in the middle of October for director Bob Gunthner for his feature film Sheila's Payoff (shooting title was Half of Bucky Beaver's Dragon Art Theatre Triple XXX-Rated Double Feature Volume 99 from Something Weird Video) and my co-star was the beautiful and sexy Mimi Morgan...for me the coolest thing was; as the new stud in the San Francisco porn scene, that Mimi recommended me to Bob and also requested to work with me Soon after, I met my first industry agent Jim South and the rest is - history. Don "Asianman" Fernando http://xanga.com/donfernando Edited by - Don Fernando on 9/26/2009 4:26:34 AM [Link]
Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 7:50PM Walter I noticed several changes were made in the database, but in light of on-screen evidence and Don Fernando's own confirmation that NO deep fisting occurred in any of the scenes of this movie, do you plan to remove the "fisting" sex activity for the female performers? [Link]
Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02	Posted - Oct 4 2009 : 11:34AM Done. [Link]

mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 5 2009 : 12:43AM Don Fernando wrote: Jaktarn wrote: Superman belongs to DC Comics not Marvel Don: great info I consider you being one of the luckiest guys alive. Would love to see you in action as a performer again! Click to expand Jaktarn - Huh! ...I have never stopped performing in my 32 years in The Biz although in the USA I mostly focus on directing. I have done around 50 BJ POV scenes for AsianSexTrip.com and AsianAmericanGirls.com and regularly work in Hungary, Czech Republic and Italy for the great Mario Salieri and his Mario Salieri Productions; in fact, am leaving Sunday for Budapest to work for MSP. Last December I went to Thailand and shot for 3 weeks with my Laotian/Thai cameragirl (also my GF) which culminated in Home Made In Thailand Volumes 1-3 which are distributed by Black Market Releasing. And yes...I am one of the luckiest guys alive - blessed with excellent health due in large part to a healthy diet and lifestyle at 61...look at my recent pic taken in Honolulu at http://myspace.com/the_real_don_fernando BTW - I realized that DC Comics produces the Superman comic publication(s) but in the 11 months that I have been away from ADT the posting page changed and I couldn't figure out how to edit a post but just figured it out. Don "Asianman" Fernando http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsianXClub http://xanga.com/donfernando Edited by - Don Fernando on 9/25/2009 3:11:36 AM Click to expand Don, could you answer a question I have about Salieri's movies? I noticed that he almost always has the males jerk off in front of the women before the sex gets going. Do you know if there is anything behind that? A fetish of Mario's maybe? [Link]

All Forums > IAFD Direct > IAFD Direct Forum Page 30Weekend In Fist Fuck Land!

Previous topic: Touch Me!#2
Next topic: Hot and Heavy incorrect links