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Zingerbrook
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Posted - Jan 25 2021 : 12:54PM
My memory says no, nowhere near like in the past 5-7 years. But my memory may not serve me well here.

If yes, any recommendations? If no, what changed in the 2010s?

leatherface
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Posted - Jan 25 2021 : 1:13PM
there were some sexy mature women in the industry (Aunt Peg, Helga Sven, Babette Blue, Marina Lothar, Ona Zee to name a few) altough the "young guy with a much older woman" fantasy related to the milf concept wasn't... I don't want to say it totally didn't exist, but certainly it wasn't a genre as far as I know.
Offwac
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Posted - Jan 25 2021 : 2:38PM

MILF seems to have become shorthand in the industry for "actress over thirty with big (fake) tits". While there were women in the 80's who met that description, they weren't viewed as a category.
hoochimama
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Posted - Jan 25 2021 : 4:02PM
Are you kidding me? 1980's "Taboo" with Kay Parker was as big a hit as it got and in terms of quality leagues above the fauxcest crap they're putting out nowadays where you have similarly-aged people pretending to be parent/child with all the acting quality of a pizza delivery porn plot.

Kinky porn was pushed back by the anti-porn crusades under the bush administration and what we're now seeing compared to 20 years ago with all the step-relative crap is just mainstream porn shyly trying to go back to having kinky "stories" that can add to a scene's erotic value rather than just being there as a comical remnant from the days you needed a filler pizza delivery plot to pretend your product had "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" to avoid the obscenity boogeyman.

If you check the history of the kind of porn where that kind of moral repression/censorship didn't happen (hentai- where any kind of story with any kind of protagonists goes no matter how sick or twisted) you'll see no change in what is demanded/consumed over the past decades.

I'm sure the big porn conglomerates have access to gigantic amounts information on consumer preferences acquired from their free streaming sites to know exactly what the market wants, but they are limited by and very vulnerable to political censorship.

Nowadays it's just teen->milf. In porn it lost its original meaning where it would describe a woman of a certain age who'd exceptionally still be attractive to young/teenage males unlike most women her age.

Edited by - hoochimama on 1/29/2021 3:09:06 PM

T0MBOne
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Posted - Jan 25 2021 : 7:13PM
^---Yes, and Vinegar Syndrome has put out beautiful restored versions of the Taboo series.

Everyone raves about Kay Parker in Taboo 1

but I prefer Honey Wilder's MILF persona in Taboo 2.

tb

Edited by - T0MBOne on 1/28/2021 12:19:02 PM

 
leatherface
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Posted - Jan 25 2021 : 8:10PM
I will openly admit that I'm not an expert at all about that period, but since I'm a fan of that kind of fantasy I've tried to look for that kind of stuff. I guess you're right about that Taboo, but for what I remember (and having checked IAFD rapidly right now it seems to confirm what I remember) that the so called "young guys" weren't young at all, they were basically normal performers, often with big moustaches that make them look even older with slightly older women with few exceptions (I can remember a scene with Helga Sven and Tom Byron and a few more scenes with him, another with Rocco and Marina Lothar and that's almost all I can think of, and both Rocco and Tom werent't particularly young looking). There weren't like, Juan el caballo Loco with Vanessa Videl kind of scenes with a real young guy who's 19/20 year old and a woman who's 35 year older than him.

Edited by - leatherface on 1/25/2021 8:20:10 PM

James Oak
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Posted - Jan 26 2021 : 7:56AM
My first memory of the word MILF was in the mainstream movie, "American Pie" which came out in 1999. Were there older, mature women in porn in the 80's? Sure, they just weren't referred to as MILF's per se and probably why you won't see any reference to that word in movie titles and such.
Zingerbrook
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Posted - Jan 27 2021 : 6:22PM
I was never over 30 in the 80s, but I feel like women over 30 instantly lost sex appeal. Not so much these days. I do remember the older women magazines and was never drawn to the presentation. The modern hip look of the 80s seemed like it was only allowed for under 30s. I certainly have a skewed perspective, just based on my relative youth then.
Porn Scout
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Posted - Jan 27 2021 : 6:43PM
Porn didn't have well-defined genres then the way it does now. That's not to say genres didn't exist, but they existed within the context of adult feature films. So yes, probably, there were all sorts of older woman/younger man pairings in the porn that was made in that time period, but it wouldn't have been categorized and mass produced in the same way it is today.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the term "MILF" came out of that movie American Pie, which was late 90's maybe? And I think you can look back at the movie The Graduate (1967) as a sort of a milestone in the broader popularization of older woman/younger man.

zanders59
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Posted - Jan 27 2021 : 7:40PM
There have been mature women in porn since the beginning of commercial porn - Georgina Spelvin, Dolly Sharp and Ultramax were some of the earliest back in the early 70s. In the mid to late 70s there were Jennifer Welles, Gloria Leonard, Pat Manning and Juliet Anderson.

They weren't pigeonholed into a certain niche either.

T0MBOne
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Posted - Jan 28 2021 : 12:23PM
^---Dolly Sharp had a fascinating career

that started with mainstream success in the 1950s

followed by her appearance in Deep Throat and other xxx flicks.

tb---

leatherface
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Posted - Jan 28 2021 : 5:18PM
I've looked for this on iafd, just looking at the pairing of the mature women on the time and: no. Even today with the "milf craze" that kind of content (at least done well) is much more rare than it seems.
But at least today there are male performers who are hired for that kind of role, Jordi el nino Polla, El caballo loco, Archie Stone, Lil D, Jimmy Michaels, Matt Sloan... at the time those male actors basically didn't exist, or they weren't hired to make scenes with mature women. Even the extremely rare young ones like Tom Byron looked like guys already in their forties. If there's some rare exception, that is indeed an exception, at least for what I've seen.

Edited by - leatherface on 1/28/2021 5:20:38 PM

hoochimama
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Posted - Jan 29 2021 : 2:51PM
What?

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I'm betting the producers and performers were probably triple checking his ID. He really brought out the MILFiness in chicks like Kay Parker, Honey Wilder, Sharon Mitchell as he easily looked 20+ years younger than them.

That's not to say that he didn't have scenes at the time where he looked older if he foolishly let his facial hair grow, but that's not unique to him/that period, today's youngest-looking male performers that are used in older women/younger male scenes like Juan El Caballo Loco or Tyler Nixon also make those sort of mistakes by making themselves look older with facial hair or getting tattoos.

Example, Tyler Nixon in naughtyamerica:

2015:
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2019:
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Shaving his beard and cutting his hair makes him look much younger in 2019 than he did in 2015.

To answer the OP: older woman/younger male was certainly a thing in the 80s, just like older male/younger woman and family play, that demand hasn't changed over time and I don't think it will (as long as families exist there will be demand for family play porn, just like as long as significant racism exists there will be demand for race play porn). As far as recommendations for milf porn from the 80s go off the top of my head I'd suggest the "Taboo" series and "Private Teacher" to start with. Make sure it's the restored/remastered versions.

Edited by - hoochimama on 1/29/2021 4:33:27 PM

T0MBOne
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Posted - Jan 30 2021 : 11:55AM
^---Oh yea, Tom Byron looks really young in Private Teacher.


He's also in that crazy Kirdy Steven's flick Playing with Fire (1983)

but I don't think that one has been restored yet.


tb

hoochimama
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Posted - Jan 30 2021 : 5:14PM
^Almost posted a picture of Sybill Danning's iconic boat scene with her student in Playing with Fire but then remembered the no-hollywood image policy. That scene is what made me a fan of Sybill, she looked so much hotter there than in the stuff she shot 15 years before despite the earlier work showing more skin/being raunchier. She just got hotter with age and the teacher/student taboo and age contrast factor on top of it just made that scene unforgettable.

Another similar softcore 80s MILF movie was Private Lessons (1981) with Sylvia Kristel/Emmanuelle, even though she lacked the ideal milf meatiness.


Edited by - hoochimama on 1/30/2021 5:23:50 PM

 
jackdore
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Posted - Feb 1 2021 : 10:39AM
One difference between the Seventies and Eighties and more recent decades is that a lot more older women have become involved in porn on a temporary basis through the Score Group for instance, with their mags and movies showcasing horny mature women.
WyattEarp
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Posted - Jan 23 2025 : 9:32AM
I was a big Honey Wilder fan. I loved fer beautiful face and natural figure. She had a nice mature vibe in 80s porn.

Film her legs in hosiery look out.




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