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spit roast
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4/06
Posted - Jul 8 2006 : 10:57AM
....are they actors & actresses, playing parts, pretending to be something they're not...?

...are they peformers, showing us what they are capable of....?

...are they athletes, competing to be the best...?

SR

picman
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Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
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Posted - Jul 8 2006 : 12:15PM
Sounds like a poll. I vote sexual athletes.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Your other left
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Posted - Jul 8 2006 : 12:22PM
They are people, which means that they are multi-dimensional and won't easily fit into any of your boxes.
john thomas
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1168 Posts
6/06
Posted - Jul 8 2006 : 12:40PM
Pornstars are artists.

Like dancers they push at the limits of what the human body can do.
Like painters they create striking and memorable visual images.
Like sculptors they express the physicality of our existence.
Like dramatists they reveal deep truths about human relationships.
Like poets they delight us with their inventiveness.

Pornstars are art-workers in sex. By their explorations at the very boundaries of human sexual potential, they help the rest of us to better understand the world and, ultimately, thus help us to live better lives.

Edited by - john thomas on 7/8/2006 1:44:43 PM

JEWEL (imposter)
Jewel De'Nyle

736 Posts
1/06
Posted - Jul 8 2006 : 1:43PM
I think there are a lot of porn girls in todays market but the day of the star is limited. The only new stars are McKinzie Lee,Jesse Jane,Gina Lynn and Stormy Daniels all others from years ago are stars but for new girls the stardom is over. To much competiion and too many girls. When I started there were only a handful of us and we were in ton's of movies and boxcovers and very well publicized now only very few are pushed to stardom. For instance look at Jenna and Tera you'll never see stars in this business like them in years to come.
 
Endless Loop
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Posted - Jul 8 2006 : 8:44PM
When you occasionally bust open the collection, and end up embarked on a classic smut marathon,
they are what signal an end to the wing ding, even if they appear before the 12th hour finale.
Eric381
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What are you looking at? It
2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 1:38AM
Not if you talk to the nitwits @ XXXchurch, John. According to them, anyone in the sex trade is a prostitute...a sinner. That is, much less a "pornstar".

I like your definition much better. The sex trade alleviates alot of the "stick up one's ass" and "cardboard figure" garbage talk we see from these preachers who always say the same thing, over & over.

As Crissy Cums says on her website:

I am Crissy.

Please enjoy! If not - do the right thing and drain that swollen prostate before it puts pressure on the brain and you wind up hurting me in some kind of compassionate-conservative act that squirts semen with such force from your eyeballs that I myself may die. :(

I couldn't have said it much better myself!

Edited by - Eric381 on 7/9/2006 1:39:43 AM
respect
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200 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 9:29AM
Pornstars are actresses because they have to pretend to be horny when they aren't horny.

And actresses are artists.

Edited by - respect on 7/9/2006 9:32:11 AM

Isabel
Isabel Ice

170 Posts
4/06
Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 12:26PM
pesimist
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Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 1:09PM
Porn star is what happens when you put together Whore and Actress, easy as that.
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 1:11PM
Aspiring actress.
Derek117
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Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 1:13PM
The majority are "Performers" because they simply perform sexual acts.

Still, Performers who work in "feature sexvids" may have some acting ability, because they can "portray a character"...which means they do MORE than just recite dialogue! But this is very, very rare--and with all due respect, I don't believe the AVN Awards truly recognize "acting" in their acting categories.

The dominance of "gonzo" in today's porn market just re-inforces this trend away from acting ability.

As for "star" quality: in my opinion, there are no "Stars" in the biz today. The young, post-Jenna Stars have retired/cut-back on performing because of the extreme, hardcore sex acts that is demanded of them by the companies, or because they want to have real-life relationships--which working in porn restricts. And none of the, yearly,"new" girls have been able to break-out and get beyond the "promising newcomer" status of, for example, Alektra Blue, Hillary Scott, Lacie Heart, or Monique Alexander.

Bottom line: Because there is very little "talent" needed in porn (including behind the camera), it is very easy to "work" in the industry--and this is why there is so much competition, so much product, and so poor quality. And only "Performers" not Actresses or Stars.

Everett
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Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 2:59PM
Jewel, LOL hun. Ive learned through the years never say 'never'.
bauer024
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It is what it is
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Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 3:16PM
Jewel i am sorry to say i agree and disagree with your statement i feel there are tons of girls coming into the indusrty and the need for a age of 21 is needed even more now than ever ... that said i feel that Sasha Grey has superstar writen all over her... even though i agree with some of the girls you named as stars others are sad to say sub par at best Mckinzie Lee is a lame Performer at best she is a long way from star let the fans tell you who stars are not AVN or some other industry sell out... i agree that Jenna has been a icon but to put Tera in the same sentence with her is a real disrespect to Jenna ...Belladonna has done more than Tera will ever do in her career and is a much bigger star ....... in the end i feel there will be tons of girls that come and go from the industry but i also feel there will be more special ones that also move us forward in the years to come will they replace Jenna doubt it i am not sure i would want them to i want more porn like Belladonna and Bruce Seven and the Buttman himself.... i see more women making bigger impacts in the years to come behind the cameras also i cant wait .......


Jewel i loved and respect what you did on camera i hope i did you no disrespect here just my honest opinon ......


dan

Eric381
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Posted - Jul 10 2006 : 12:16AM
I beg your pardon, but I'd say that any girl who puts her ass on the line in over 200 flicks could qualify for "star" status, esp. at the accelerated rate some of these girls are filming. Since you're dropping names, I wouldn't even put Hillary Scott in the class of the others you've named ~ and if anyone has "star" status in that list, it's her.

Take a look at the Teagan's and such, they've put out 60 titles in 3 years of performing. Excellent, she's a cutie, too! But while some consider her a star, she's not even comparable to a Hillary Scott, Tory Lane, or a Kelly Wells when it comes to the adult industry, IMHO. The mere fact that people hold McKenzie Lee as a 'star' holds about as much credibility as her winning the AVN Best New Starlet award this January. She's been contract since Day 1 (not quite, but close enough), and she's done how many scenes? AdultDVDEmpire shows her with 30 titles (give or take 10 perhaps).

Porn is about fucking - not about hotness & acting. Sure, it can contain those virtues, but they aren't prerequisite. Just because some barbie doll who is willing to suck cock on camera comes along, doesn't in the least mean she's a 'star'. She's just that, another hot piece of ass willing to fuck on film. You work to become a star, you aren't just automatically handed such a title. So while the title of "pornstar" (-v- adult actress, porn performer, etc.) is being thrown around, think about those girls who've made their impact on the business, even if only in number of titles produced. You can't say too much about a McKenzie Lee other than she's another 'barbie doll'. On the other hand, I admire the words of one Ginger Lee for not claiming status of "pornstar", perhaps because she isn't putting her body thru some of the ungodly shit we witness in the industry, or for that matter, doesn't have a heavy number of films either.

Otherwise, please define the word "star" for us. Just because they haven't met your expectations of the next Jenna Jameson doesn't make them less of a star, and just another 'performer'. Seriously, I want to here this...

Edited by - Eric381 on 7/10/2006 1:58:02 AM
 
scipio
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Posted - Jul 10 2006 : 1:45AM
It really depends what you're defining as "Star". I'd go with someone that casual, non-hardcore porn hounds have heard of.

On that note, I won't say never as Jewel has, but they will be few and far between...

Lange
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Make Gapes not War
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Posted - Jul 10 2006 : 2:37AM
I would say that the stars are the ones who has the most fans.
croy
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Discovry
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Posted - Jul 10 2006 : 4:40AM
Life is not an "either/or" experience.
For the symbolic logic oriented, life has few exclusive-or's.
Endless Loop
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Posted - Jul 11 2006 : 7:27AM
Is it that Gonzos never really ask it of the female performers to act much?
Or does it generally entail higher prices to perform a BJ, and take anal, in say, a library, if shes required to play the part of a introverted sexually repressed librarian, slowly eased out of her shell, as opposed to the standard gonzo approach,
Youth- "I'd like to check out this book"
MILF Librarian- " OK, but wouldn't you prefer to fuck me first?"

Or, is it that female gonzo performers, are generally geared more for high performance fucking, whereby each scene simply reflects their own lust x 10 on exhibit?
That they really have no interest whatsoever in performing as some character, and thus having to fuck like anyone but themselves?


Edited by - Endless Loop on 7/11/2006 7:35:13 AM




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