Who usually decides who's "pervert" or not? Well, usually the new christian-judaic morality. But if we look back at the story of some Popes, we'll find some very interesting data. Let's see:

Damasus I: killed his rivals for the papacy, tried for adultery in 378, but acquitted by the emperor

John XII: atheist, bisexual, summoned the devil during sex, castrated a cardinal, bludgeoned to death by the irate husband of the woman he was copulating with

Stephen VI: hated his predicessor so much he had his body exhumed and condemed him, he then cut of the three fingers that popes bless with, the body was later thrown into the Tiber river

Sergius III: enjoyed sex with underage girls. When he was 45 he had a 15 year old mistress

John XIII: hanged a city prefect by his hair, defiled his own niece, died just like his father, John XII, killed by an irate husband while having sex

Pope Joan: the only female pope, was discovered when she gave birth prematurely, to ensure this didn't happen again, the Popes throne has a hole in the bottom so that a cleric could ensure the sex of the pope( i'll leave that to your imagination)

John XXI: was origionally a doctor to Gregory X, but his incompetence killed him, as well as his two succesors. John summarilly became pope but died shortly thereafter. He was belived by some to be the anti-christ

Benedict IX: murderer, believed in whichcraft, commited beastialitys, threw wild bisexual orgies, married his cousin and then sold the papacy

Gregory VII: belived that free though shouldn't be allowed, because it led to heresy

Innocent VIII: fathered several bastard sons

Anacletus: had a prostitute for a mistress, commited insest with his sister and some of his other female relatives, and raped nuns

Boniface VIII: got the papacy by killing his predicessor, Celestine V, atheist, homosexual, tried for heresy, rape, sodomy, and eating meat during lent

Clement VI: had dozens of mistresses

John XXIII: was actually a pirate who obtained the papacy through force of arms, he was charged with piracy, murder, rape, sodomy, and incest

Pius II: wrote erotic literature, sired 12 bastards

Sixtus IV: had 6 illigitimate sons, had sex with his sister, caused the spanish inquisition

Alexander VI: commited his first muder when he was only 12, sired many bastards

Julius II: pedophile, had sex with young boys and male prostitutes

Leo X: homosexual, so corrupt he caused luther to write his 95 theses

Paul III: Poisened his mother and sister, had an insestuous relationship with his own daughter, killed cardinals over a theological argument, was rome's biggest pimp, having 45,000 prostitutes working for him and paying him tribute

Julius III: sodomized young boys, had sex with his own illigitimate son, had a poem ''in praise of sodomy'' written about him

Leo VII: died of a heart attack during sex

Paul II: died while being sodomized by a page boy

Sixtus III: Tried for raping a nun, but was acquitted as there were no witnesses

And here's some things I've learned while making religious studies:

Although the church didn't like adultery from the start, it didn't ban sex with animals till 314

The confessional box was actually started to help prevent women from being sexually assaulted by priests

The church allows cannibalism to save your life

The book ecclesiasticus recomends throwing up before or during a big meal to make room for more food

The church didn't adopt celebacy for priests until 1095, and it was actually a ploy for raising money, as clergymen were allowed to keep mistresses if they paid an annual fee to the pope, this new law caused a huge increase in clerical homosexuality

At one time, you could purchce indulgences to reduce your time in purgatory by 7 years, you could literally buy a stairway to heaven

For more than 1000 years, the chuches sole authority on human physiology was the greek physician Galen, desipte the notable handycap of never having actually seen the inside of a human body. This caused him to have to guess at human physiology by looking at dead pigs and dogs. His most sage advice included the fact that the brain was made of phlegm, and headaches could be cured by drilling holes in the skull. The church only allowed crimanals to be disected, and when Galen's theroys would of course not be correct, the church would claim that it was because the body was that of a crimanal, and therefore abnormal, which is , needless to say, crap

A popular contraceptive device during the thirteen century was to eat bees after sex, or spit three times into the mouth of a frog

And PLEASE, don't think that I'm trying to create some anti-religious sentiment around here. It's not that. I'm just citing some historic facts to show that the concept of "perversion" is very flexible according to the historical ages.

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quote: "The confessional box was actually started to help prevent women from being sexually assaulted by priests"

It always did creep me out to go in there. Now I guess it serves to protect the men and boys from sexual advances!

Oh btw, welcome planet sex! How does planet earth compare
to your home base, and how do I get there from here?

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In fact, Planet Sex is the name of the magazine I edit here in Brazil. And it's a real nice place!

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Magnet12

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Personally I would not worry about fantasizing, even if you do it a lot, I would only be concerned if you were acting upon those fantasys in an unwelcome way.

IMHO-
Nothing you do to find pleasure in your sexuality alone or with another person is not perverded so long as you are both concenting adults.

Lunacy's goal this week is to learn to

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If you say beetlejuice 5 times with no mirror..he will come out. Just like the movie right?

If you say candman 5 times looking at a mirror, you're fucked.

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Unfortunately there are not many perverts in the world!

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Edited by - sonic on Jun 12 2001

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Wanna know something interesting? People with extremely high IQs have difficulties to tell left from right. It's not like they don't know where is left and where is right; it just that they need to pause for some seconds and think "this is left, this is right". Weird, huh?

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