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*Mutt*
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 9:29AM

Age of male talent. On websites we sometimes get complaints from the surfers about the age of the male talent and I know by reading boards like this one some of the older male talent gets alot of flack. Of course there are other variables, people don't dislike Ed Powers just because he's over 50, people still seem to love Rocco and like Peter North who are not much younger than Ed if at all.

BUT all things being equal, throw out the high scores like Rocco and Peter and the low scores like Ed Powers, how do porn consumers and pornstar girls feel about older men in front of the camera with much younger girls?

Since many porn fans are older guys themselves, 40 plus, maybe they like to see somebody of their age nailing a hot 18 year old. Or maybe they hate it, out of jealousy or other reasons. What do younger porn fans, under 30, think about scenes with 50 year old men and 18 year old girls? Would they rather see the same girl in a scene with a 25 year old guy?

What do porn girls think about performing with younger/older male talent? I know if any girls answer here they'll say there are 20 year old male talent who are horrible and there are 45 year olds they have loved working with. But again i'm talking about all things being equal, I know for a fact that there are girls in the biz who don't like working with men old enough to be their fathers and then some.

mrbluelouboyle All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 9:55AM
I could care less the age of the performer, as long as the performer does their job well. For example Peter North and Rocco are older male talent. I would guess they are in their 40s. Yet they perform well. Vicky Vette is 38 years old and she looks great, and performs well on camera.
It depends on the individual.
Dolph Zeke
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 10:01AM
I basically pay no attention to the guys, but do get aggravated if they make a lot of noise or insist on talking.
The lame interviews are the worst. "Where are you from?"
"Anybody know what you are doing" Enuf please.
sir wankalot
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 10:16AM
I'm 32 but i personally like to see older guys (45+) with younger girls (18-25).

There is something about the age difference which makes the scenario more perverse in a strange way. You kind of feel that it shouldn't be happening...for such an old guy to be fucking this hot young girl.

Maybe there is an sense of exploitation involved here too?
The old guy has done well for himself but the girl is somehow degraded by being fucked by an old wrinkly.

Personally i much prefer to see Ed Powers fuck a young girl than some narcissistic body builder.
To balance this out though i would rather see a young girl get fucked hard and take a heavy facial cumshot than watch an old guy struggle with a semi hard on and finish with a dribble!

I also like the older women with younger girls genre and i have noticed a growing line of titles which cover this fetish.
Eg: 'Mature women with younger girls'(X Traordinary), Older women with younger girls (Totally Tasteless), 'Older women and younger women'(Coast), Old grannies young panties (Heatwave)etc...

*Mutt*
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 10:35AM

good responses so far. thanks.

can you guys give your own ages?

I think there are places for older guys in porn and places where they don't belong myself. and of course there are exceptions.

 
*Mutt*
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 10:43AM

what about much much older men and young women? when i made this post i was thinking guys 40-50 .. but now i read sirwankalot's post are there lots of people u think out there who would get off seeing a 20 year old with a 65-70 year old man? Dave Cummings is near that range, i mean guys like Dave and older. Dave's in pretty good shape and even though he's bald he has a younger face. Maybe he's not a good example. I remember watching some Euro porn and in these movies there was always some really old guy, 70 at least.

personally, that old granny young chick fetish, it's the one that makes me nauseous. is it hard to get girls to take those jobs? i don't think when girls decide to enter the porn biz that's exactly what they had in mind.

i guess i should categorize older male talent into DILFs and Grandpa's.

sir wankalot
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 10:55AM
Wicked girl Meridian (aka: Svetlana) made some very hardcore films when she was working for Videorama in Europe.

She starred in an 'Old Ladies Extreme' film where she sucked off 2 guys who were 70+ aswell as fisting 2 ladies of the same age.
When you see how attractive she is you can't help but be amazed at what she does. She even pisses in this old ladies mouth!
I bet the older stars couldn't believe their luck when she walked through the door.

I hope Wicked will be utilising her full range of skills....but i somehow doubt it!

mrbluelouboyle All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 11:15AM
I'm 37 yrs old. I don't think senior citizens screwing younger girls would be a big seller. I guess there would be a small market for it. If you are asking about how I would feel about watching and old wrinkled frail man porking a young pretty girl. I guess if he can still fuck hard, and shoot a big load, thats all that matters. I don't think I'd be actively pursuing those type of films though.
jrv
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 11:39AM
For the record I think Vicky was 38 when she started and is (or is near) 40 now.

It's not so much age as physical condition. I don't eect the guys to be in perfect condition but I definitely expect them to have a smaller waistline than me, etc.

For example, Rocco is not what he was ten years ago but he's fine, and would remain fine without too much effort. I haven't seen any recent Peter North but I suspect he's similar.

Ron Jeremy is too far gone - he distracts (I may be biased because I hate his motor-mouth). Marc David likewise is so far out of shape it's like looking in a mirror.

Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 12:13PM
I can see a new series coming...

"Great Grandfathers I'd like to..." G-GILFs !!!

Seriously, I don't think the age thing has mattered much to me either. Echoing Blue Lou's response, as long as the male talent does their job well and isn't too intrusive, that's just fine. There are far more anoying aspects of some of the younger male performers which have already been addressed ad nauseum on related threads on ADT.

BTW I'm 46

Thanks

Kperv
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 1:01PM
It's not so much an age thing, but I would prefer if some of these guys looked a lot better.
Watching these hot women fuck a seriously out of shape, and often old, guy is not my thing.

Look at Pixies Emporium that advertises here.
Some of their girls are very cute, but the old guys are out of shape and the young ones look dorky.
I just won't pay good money to watch that.

I really think the male talent pool needs an infusion of new guys. Sure guys like Peter North are holding their own, but others just aren't keeping in shape.

And I'm not totally convinced by the argument that so very few guys can cut it in the business.
Large parts of the current crop of swordsmen seem incapable to get off with the women, but have to polish the pole for minutes on end to cum.
Surely more guys can do this just as well.

Zoid
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 1:41PM
I have no problems watching young guys banging old(er) women. I have no problems watching old(er) men banging old(er) women. I DO have problems watching old(er) men banging young chicks, especially when it's taken to extremes.

Oh yes, I agree with Kperv. "Older/younger" for me is based purely on how a person looks, not actual age.

Colm
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 1:51PM
I'm 30 and I prefer to see middle-aged guys with young girls. With middle-aged I mean 30-40 years old. They seem to be more experienced. I think it's cute when a girl is unexperienced but for guys that looks just dumb.
eduardo911
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 2:13PM
Funny, for me it's exactly the reverse...
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 2:26PM
For me, it's not the numerical age - it's how they look. If they're young, but pasty white and scrawny or fat or can't perform, it's turnoff. If they're older (but not grandfather-looking) but in good shape and can still perform, I'm fine with that.
The whole grandpa/young girl thing is a big turnoff to me.
 
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 2:53PM
It all depends on the context of the scene and the performer. If it fits the scene I have no problem with it. There are still some older performers who I think do a fine job, like Herschel Savage for instance. Heck I know I've put him down before but as long as the context fits I don't have a problem with Ron Jeremy performing. It is all about context for me. On the flip side, I don't have a problem with older female performers either, like Ginger Lynn for instance. I'm not into grandpa or grandma sex, but just because a performer is in their late 40's or 50's doesn't mean that they can't work anymore.
To answer the other question raised later, I'm 28 years old for my age context.
Zartyr
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 3:15PM
It is already there. It is/was directed/produced by Phillippe Soine. Due to lack of inerest, I do not remember the name of it.
-Kelly-
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 4:09PM
It's funny. I really do not think about male performers all that much. Last month my quasi-girlfriend asked me if it bothered me to see real ugly or unnattractive and out of shape guys in porn and I honestly hadn't thought about it before.

The age of the male performer is another thing I really haven't thought too much about. However, reading through the responses I pretty much agree exactly with what Tricia Deveraux said.

I am 21-years-old but I am not exactly compelled to see guys my age having sex with my favorite performers. I am also not too keen on the guy being too old or at least looking too old. It may be superficial of me, but I really don't care about how old the guys are. It's more important how they look and that they can perform well. Ultimately, I just hope that the girl is into being with the guy, regardless of age, and not faking it.


Kelly

jewel denyle
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 4:17PM
I like male performers personally that are in good shape and look good on camera age isn't a factor as long as they are sexy. And females I like women in their mid to late twenties or even early thirties they just know more about sex and it shows on camera.
Ramsey
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 4:57PM
For me age does not matter, as long as I like the person.
skronker
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 4:57PM
I'd much rather watch a hot "older" female porn star (like, what is that, 27? -- ) who is full on sexy than some teenager who looks like a doe stranded in the headlights. As for guys, it doesn't matter -- Steve Holmes is 42, and he's close to the best there is. I'm 46, so, ya know, it's encouraging. ed powers on the other hand, no.

As for male performers in their 60s, that I don't enjoy watching. But since most of my romantic partners are my age or older, checking out a hot 50-year-old woman in a porn flick would be fine.

-Kelly-
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 5:06PM
"I'd much rather watch a hot "older" female porn star (like, what is that, 27? -- ) who is full on sexy than some teenager who looks like a doe stranded in the headlights."

Agreed. The best female performers I have ever seen have almost uniformally been at least 21 and usually closer to 30. I like plenty of these new, young girls but frankly they are mostly fun to look at while not very fun to watch....if you catch my drift.

Look at a shared favorite of our's: Jennifer Luv. She's 21 now and if you compare her current scenes to the ones she did when she was around 18 or 19 there is no comparison.


Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 8/1/2004 5:08:03 PM

Walter Burns
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 5:20PM
But what if she had started doing porn now? Would her scenes then compare to the ones she did 2 years ago? I don't know, I am only asking.




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"People just aren't expecting nudity in the middle of a football game."
-Kelly-
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 5:52PM
Walter said:

"But what if she had started doing porn now? Would her scenes then compare to the ones she did 2 years ago? I don't know, I am only asking."

It's a fair question and I'd thought about it before posting my comment. This is the arc of pretty much all female performers. There are some who start off blazing (Jessica Sweet) as if they are either over-acting or just truly dying to get fucked and then as their career progresses they start moaning less and less and approach burnout or desensitization. However, most of the time the girl looks like a new girl and slowly gets better over the years. Haley Paige and Jennifer Luv are two girls around 21 years old now that barely resemble the performers they were when they started. Teagan is still just a teenager but she too is getting better with each new scene. Though I feel the need to add that every now and then there will come along a girl who is just a natural at it and is smoking hot from day one to the day she retires.

So, what constitutes the change. Well, obviously you hope that it simply means that they become more comfortable with themselves and expressing their sexuality. However, the possibility that they just learn how to "fake it" better over time is something to consider. And maybe it's just that they grow used to the camera being there and learn to just lose their inhibitions despite being filmed.

However, I question the passion of the younger girls far more than I do the older girls. The older the performer gets the more it tends to seem that they just truly love sex and know what they want from it. Maybe I'm practicing ageism. I don't know. It is concievable that it is not age that really matters. It is the sexual experience of the girl as well as her experience as a porn star. So, hypothetically speaking if Jennifer Luv started her career today I have to imagine that her scenes would be similar to the ones she did when she was 18 or 19 unless in the past couple of years she had just had all sorts of sex in her personal life. Even then, it would still take a while before she looked comfortable in front of the camera.

Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 8/1/2004 6:07:10 PM

Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 6:17PM
Wow - now I'm really afraid!

Bring on the rest...

GUILT-Fs - Great Uncles I'd Like...
OBILT-Fs - Old Biddies I'd Like...
OFILT-Fs - Old Farts I'd Like...
GEFILTE-Fs - GEriatric Fuckers I'd Like...
BELAILT-Fs - Buddy Ebsen Look Alikes I'd Like...

Somebody stop me!

 
-Kelly-
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5/03
Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 6:22PM
"Somebody stop me!"

I'll try...simply because I'm not convinced that a porn producer wouldn't try some of those out if he thought it would sell.


Kelly

Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 6:28PM
LOL!
sir wankalot
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 9:09PM
I'm not sure if i would want too much bonding between actors/actresses.

I don't mind a bit of 'heat' in a scene but i would lose interest if the couple were like a girlfriend and boyfriend having sex.

I want it to be more PORN and less lovey dovey.

I like an extra element or scenario thrown in such as:

Old fucking young
Gangbang
Multiple facial
Ugly fucking pretty (the women has to be the pretty one!)
A normal fan fucking a pornstar
Veteran fucking first timer
Black fucking blonde

Pornochicks
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 9:19PM
These are two of the best selling sites in the UK at the moment:
She Still Loves It
Virgin Breaker

One has young guy with grannies and the other has a grandad with young girls. It is the viewers choice.

Personally I think guys watching porn want to see guys they can relate to hence the sucess of people like Ed Powers and Ron Jeremy. They want to feel as though they may have a chance with the girl in the film.


Edited by - Pornochicks on 8/1/2004 9:20:11 PM

Edited by - Pornochicks on 8/1/2004 9:20:37 PM

localboy
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 10:57PM
I'm 23, and I have to vote for the "younger guys" thing.

You're exactly right when you say that it's because I like the idea of "hey that could be me out there!"

It's the same reason I don't like interracial (I'm a white guy) - it's harder to get the "that could be me" sense when the parts look different.

Zoid
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Posted - Aug 1 2004 : 11:19PM
Strange how porn perception works. I myself don't try to relate to anyone at all. I am just aroused (or not aroused) by the action/peformers/chemistry/atmosphere on the screen. I am not thinking: "Oh..it's virtual ME who's fucking this gorgeous chick."
I mean who wants to relate to Ron Jeremy or Ed Powers anyway? The thought alone..
DeGalon
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Posted - Aug 2 2004 : 11:54AM
I prefer to watch younger guys. Especially if the girl is performing with a guy that she would be attracted to in real life. So we need more guys with the tattooed musician look in porn. The prime example is Kurt Lockwood.
The Creeper
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Posted - Aug 2 2004 : 2:30PM
I can definitely get my rocks off watching young girls with considerably older guys. There's a dreamlike sequence in Private's Sex Forever where Lynn Stone discovers an orgy in a cavern. A fairly unattractive man in his sixties is humping an equally plain woman of the same age. And then, by the sacred power of pornography, he is rutting with Lynn Stone, and there's a real frisson in seeing this guy porking a beauty (and Lynn looks amazing in this scene, every inch the supermodel). His unbelievable good luck fairly crackles on the screen, and gives the scene a nicely twisted energy.

I also enjoy seeing the older guys who populate Mario Salieri movies. Again, there's a frisson in seeing them touch the young flesh of the girls with their old hands, or simply look on with the jealousy of the old. There are dark undercurrents with this kink, I know - I'm getting off on watching people from opposite ends of the gene pool being flung together for entertainment, and it's touching on themes of mortality and body fascism - but I can't deny I find it arousing.

Asmodeus
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Posted - Aug 2 2004 : 2:42PM
A few years ago I saw an underground porn with incest themes from Europe that featured old men at least in their 60's banging really young looking teens and it was definitely a little disturbing to say the least. It basically looked like grandpa's molesting their granddaughters! I myself like seeing older men with younger women but nothing like what I just described. I also don't mind seeing older women with young studs but unfortunately there isn't much in this genre currently available from any of the major studios.
zz kenny
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Posted - Aug 2 2004 : 3:21PM
Older guys in a scene dosent bother me unless its Ed Powers.
 
obsessed27
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 5:48PM
Eww! I draw the line at 57-59 years old. A 70 year old dude with a 20 year old is disgusting. As a matter of fact, it's disgusting with anyone... the sight of two 70 year olds having sex is not a pretty one.

I'm in my mid 20s, and I like scenes with older male talent, but the only ones I've seen are from the Up and Cummers series, so I can't comment on the rest. I can see their appeal: it's just the simple fantasy of being that age and being with a younger, sexier woman. I'm too young for that fantasy, but Randy West's scenes get me off. He seems to work with no one older than 25! The oldest I've seen him is 57 years old (that's about the oldest I can manage before it's a turn off), and at that age he has had scenes with 18 year old Fallon Summers and 23 year old Britaney Star. Looking at my porn collection, the majority are of the U&C series and IR-themed dvds. Hmmmm.

sir wankalot
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 7:03PM
Although not a major studio... 'Heatwave's' M.I.L.T.F series is quite good. The women are pretty hot and are not too old to wank over!



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