What has happened to men over the years?

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mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 23 2013 : 11:59PM I know that 20 to 30 years ago or so men seemed to be different than they are today. For example: Back then if you didn't get naked in the locker room with all the other guys you were considered a sissy or a weirdo. Now if a guy gets naked in the locker room more often than not he is considered gay. Most men today seem almost ashamed of their bodies. Back then men were proud when they sprouted pubic hair and would never think of shaving or trimming it. Men proudly wore their pubic hair as a badge of manhood. Now a lot of men shave and trim, almost as if they want to look pre-pubescent or de-masculinize themselves by removing their body hair. Men used to seem more self-confident and comfortable in their skin, and were proud to be men. They didn't care who saw them naked, they didn't care what their women (or their men) thought of their bushy pubic hair. They all thought they look good naked, no matter what type body they had or what size penis they had. They were men and they acted like men. It is just different now generally speaking. What happened??? [Link]
jim2 Member 232 Posts 7/06	Posted - Oct 24 2013 : 12:31AM I think it's partly because women have changed over the years. Many years ago I think most women liked men with a lot of body hair, like in the days of Sean Connery as James Bond. These days while some women still like body hair, I think the majority don't. If you do have hair anywhere they want it well groomed. So as women's taste in men changes, so must the man. [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 24 2013 : 12:42AM jim2 wrote: I think it's partly because women have changed over the years. Many years ago I think most women liked men with a lot of body hair, like in the days of Sean Connery as James Bond. These days while some women still like body hair, I think the majority don't. If you do have hair anywhere they want it well groomed. So as women's taste in men changes, so must the man. Click to expand I think all us men should stand together and refuse to remove or trim our body hair, then women would be forced to adapt! [Link]
trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10	Posted - Oct 24 2013 : 11:05AM ^Count me out! Wifey seems quite happy when it comes to licking & sucking on my hairless nards! [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Oct 24 2013 : 11:17AM mcs1025 wrote: Back then men were proud when they sprouted pubic hair and would never think of shaving or trimming it. Men proudly wore their pubic hair as a badge of manhood. Now a lot of men shave and trim, almost as if they want to look pre-pubescent or de-masculinize themselves by removing their body hair. Click to expand I can shave or trim my pubic hair and still have plenty of body hair left over. Nobody is going to mistake me for a prepubescent boy. More generally speaking, your premise - that being manly requires ignoring appearance, has never been true. It sounds to me as if you are confusing appearance with Stoicism. [Link]

mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 24 2013 : 3:27PM Hardware wrote: mcs1025 wrote: Back then men were proud when they sprouted pubic hair and would never think of shaving or trimming it. Men proudly wore their pubic hair as a badge of manhood. Now a lot of men shave and trim, almost as if they want to look pre-pubescent or de-masculinize themselves by removing their body hair. Click to expand I can shave or trim my pubic hair and still have plenty of body hair left over. Nobody is going to mistake me for a prepubescent boy. More generally speaking, your premise - that being manly requires ignoring appearance, has never been true. It sounds to me as if you are confusing appearance with Stoicism. Click to expand I never said or inferred that being manly requires ignoring appearance. There is nothing inherently unattractive or unsanitary about body hair. It is possible to be very manly and to pay very close attention to your appearance, all without shaving or trimming your pubic hair. [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Oct 24 2013 : 11:04PM mcs1025 wrote: There is nothing inherently unattractive or unsanitary about body hair. It is possible... to pay very close attention to your appearance, all without shaving or trimming your pubic hair. Click to expand I absolutely agree. I think women should stop shaving, plucking, waxing and otherwise depilating their beautiful natural bodies. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Oct 25 2013 : 4:09PM mcs1025 wrote: I never said or inferred that being manly requires ignoring appearance. Click to expand So, we're just talking about fashion. We proudly wear new clothes, show off our new cars, etc.; all of which proclaim a certain status (real or imagined). In that regard, it is true that pubic hair constitutes a sign of adulthood, but by the time one reaches the legal age in our modern society I doubt that most of us really put much stock in it. Once you get there you realize that it is just a signpost, rather than the goal line. [Link]
SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11	Posted - Oct 25 2013 : 8:28PM mcs1025 wrote: jim2 wrote: I think it's partly because women have changed over the years. Many years ago I think most women liked men with a lot of body hair, like in the days of Sean Connery as James Bond. These days while some women still like body hair, I think the majority don't. If you do have hair anywhere they want it well groomed. So as women's taste in men changes, so must the man. Click to expand I think all us men should stand together and refuse to remove or trim our body hair, then women would be forced to adapt! Click to expand That's all well and good as long as the same goes for us. If you like women with hairy armpits, legs and bush then more power to ya. [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Oct 27 2013 : 5:42PM ^ Oh no! Women with hairy armpits. I thought only Maggie Mayhem had those. [Link]
stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07	Posted - Oct 27 2013 : 8:13PM mharris127 wrote: ^ Oh no! Women with hairy armpits. I thought only Maggie Mayhem had those. Click to expand You aint met Susan Boyle yet lol :) [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Oct 28 2013 : 4:00AM ^ Stinkfist, I have heard of her but haven't seen her armpits. I take it she doesn't shave them either? [Link]
N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 29 2013 : 5:27PM What body hair? I'm in my early forties and almost completely hairless (none on chest or back, very fine on arms and legs). Also, couldn't grow a beard to save my life - and yet, I'm a slaphead. So, obviously, the levels of testosterone in my body are sufficient to have caused male pattern baldness but then, I have this curious lack of body hair - what's going on there then? [Link]
Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08	Posted - Oct 29 2013 : 7:32PM Meh. I like trimming my pubic hair. I live in a very warm climate. It's cooler when it's trimmed. And my wife enjoys giving me blowjobs so much more when my pubes are neatly trimmed and my ball sack is shaved, so I'm happy to oblige. The OP is making too big a deal over this. It has nothing to do with self-confidence - it's just a personal preference. [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Oct 30 2013 : 11:02PM I love girls who shave. Just think it's a trend like in 90s when landing strip was the trend. Like beyond look cause oral sex with girls who are shaved is 100% better experience. IME, having oral sex in girls with bush lots of pubic hair, they shed like crazy and get pubes in teeth. Also like the bare skin to skin feel. On my side, like shaving too (myself), make skin more sensitive. But the preference or trend is just a trend like the landing strip in 90s. [Link]

lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02	Posted - Oct 31 2013 : 11:30AM I didn't shave my armpits from age 18 to age 45. Hot flashes caused me to shave them again. So there. [Link]
trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10	Posted - Oct 31 2013 : 11:31AM BYOB_Kenobi quote; IME, having oral sex in girls with bush lots of pubic hair, they shed like crazy and get pubes in teeth. BYOB...I just got done about a hour ago testing out your theory, and I'm happy to report that wifey is not a shedder...and nothing got stuck in my teeth! (I do plan on conducting further research to verify my results). I find it very appealing to nuzzle my nose in a nicely trimmed bush. Edited by - trout bum on 10/31/2013 5:58:36 PM [Link]
lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02	Posted - Oct 31 2013 : 11:34AM I wonder why I was never a fan of mustaches? [Link]
His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10	Posted - Nov 3 2013 : 11:14PM Kimi Lixx wrote: mcs1025 wrote: There is nothing inherently unattractive or unsanitary about body hair. It is possible... to pay very close attention to your appearance, all without shaving or trimming your pubic hair. Click to expand I absolutely agree. I think women should stop shaving, plucking, waxing and otherwise depilating their beautiful natural bodies. Click to expand [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Nov 6 2013 : 4:54PM Here's me in my natural untrimmed state. Pretty good lookin' if you ask me! Edited by - mcs1025 on 11/6/2013 4:55:18 PM [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Nov 6 2013 : 6:10PM ^ If that was you in your 'natural, untrimmed state' you'd have a full beard. [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Nov 6 2013 : 7:47PM Hardware wrote: ^ If that was you in your 'natural, untrimmed state' you'd have a full beard. Click to expand I have to shave my face to project a professional image for my career. So I guess I'm "au naturel" from the neck down. Edited by - mcs1025 on 11/6/2013 7:49:32 PM [Link]
Joe Mayo Deactivated User Sure Thing, Joe Mayo. 533 Posts 10/13	Posted - Nov 6 2013 : 8:01PM I can't imagine someone would want to go down on that babushka. If getting laid is important to you, you may want to (strongly) consider at least trimming it down. [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Nov 6 2013 : 8:39PM Joe Mayo wrote: I can't imagine someone would want to go down on that babushka. If getting laid is important to you, you may want to (strongly) consider at least trimming it down. Click to expand I've never had any complaints on my pubic hair. This is me at sexual maturation and I like it. [Link]
Joe Mayo Deactivated User Sure Thing, Joe Mayo. 533 Posts 10/13	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 11:46AM ^ A man can be sexually mature without looking like they're wearing a 70s style afro around their shaft. I'm just saying most relatively hot girls these days will be turned off but if you're happy that's all that matters. [Link]

trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 11:54AM [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 2:12PM Joe Mayo wrote: ^ A man can be sexually mature without looking like they're wearing a 70s style afro around their shaft. I'm just saying most relatively hot girls these days will be turned off but if you're happy that's all that matters. Click to expand Yes, you can be sexually mature no matter your outward appearance. When I mentioned my sexual maturation, I was strictly speaking about my physical appearance. I don't really think it looks like I am wearing a 70s style afro around my penis, my pubic hair is a very average amount for "au naturel" pubes. All men would have the same amount of pubic hair as me if they'd let it grow out. removed the duplicate pics - no need to repeat yourself Edited by - HeyNow on 11/7/2013 5:11:09 PM [Link]
trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 2:43PM ^I have honestly seen enough of this picture!! I know it's within the image policy guidelines...but no reason to keep posting the same old picture over and over. We get the idea Dudeski! [Link]
Joe Mayo Deactivated User Sure Thing, Joe Mayo. 533 Posts 10/13	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 3:16PM ^ Thank you, trout. + 1,000 (there's not enough zeros) OP has posted that pic in numerous threads AND uses it as his avatar? No one wants to or needs to see that shit here. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 5:30PM mcs1025 wrote: I have to shave my face to project a professional image for my career. Click to expand Do you mean to say that you don't think all us men should stand together and refuse to remove or trim our facial hair, then employers would be forced to adapt!? ^ The picture doesn't bother me, but the fact that he posts it repeatedly raises some questions. Edited by - hardware on 11/7/2013 5:31:56 PM [Link]
Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 6:00PM Hardware wrote: ^ The picture doesn't bother me, but the fact that he posts it repeatedly raises some questions. Click to expand I thought so too, seems a bit suspicious to me. mcs1025, would you please post another picture of yourself with your face visible? Perhaps doing something to identify that you took the picture in response to my request, like holding up a quarter next to your face, for instance. Because I'm beginning to suspect that perhaps there may be something else driving your need to post the same picture over and over, and I'd hate to think you're posting up someone else's picture that wasn't intended for public distribution. I'm certainly not accusing you of lying, because I really don't know. I just think most of us would feel more at ease knowing that this picture is really you. p.s. - you can keep your clothes on for the next picture, if you like. [Link]
trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 6:03PM ^^It doesn't bother me either...it's worth a good chuckle, but like you, I think once is enough. Edited by - trout bum on 11/7/2013 6:03:24 PM [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 7:06PM Macko69 wrote: Hardware wrote: ^ The picture doesn't bother me, but the fact that he posts it repeatedly raises some questions. Click to expand I thought so too, seems a bit suspicious to me. mcs1025, would you please post another picture of yourself with your face visible? Perhaps doing something to identify that you took the picture in response to my request, like holding up a quarter next to your face, for instance. Because I'm beginning to suspect that perhaps there may be something else driving your need to post the same picture over and over, and I'd hate to think you're posting up someone else's picture that wasn't intended for public distribution. I'm certainly not accusing you of lying, because I really don't know. I just think most of us would feel more at ease knowing that this picture is really you. p.s. - you can keep your clothes on for the next picture, if you like. Click to expand [Link]
mcs1025 Member 70 Posts 7/13	Posted - Nov 7 2013 : 7:07PM Macko69 wrote: Hardware wrote: ^ The picture doesn't bother me, but the fact that he posts it repeatedly raises some questions. Click to expand I thought so too, seems a bit suspicious to me. mcs1025, would you please post another picture of yourself with your face visible? Perhaps doing something to identify that you took the picture in response to my request, like holding up a quarter next to your face, for instance. Because I'm beginning to suspect that perhaps there may be something else driving your need to post the same picture over and over, and I'd hate to think you're posting up someone else's picture that wasn't intended for public distribution. I'm certainly not accusing you of lying, because I really don't know. I just think most of us would feel more at ease knowing that this picture is really you. p.s. - you can keep your clothes on for the next picture, if you like. Click to expand [Link]
Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08	Posted - Nov 8 2013 : 1:38AM Ok, I'm convinced. [Link]

Joe Mayo Deactivated User Sure Thing, Joe Mayo. 533 Posts 10/13	Posted - Nov 8 2013 : 11:41AM Disturbing. [Link]
earthwindfire Deactivated User 257 Posts 10/12	Posted - Dec 24 2013 : 6:13PM I started shaving my pubes a few years ago for three reasons: 1 - I would not get involved with a woman with hairy pits or a massive bush, so why should I expect her to put up with it 2 - I don't want my lover to have a mouthful of pubic hair when she performs oral 3 - you get far better oral when you are trimmed or smooth as the woman will lick everywhere and be happy with it. No strange odors in your pubic bush, hair in the teeth, etc... a happier woman means better oral This is not letting go of my manhood... It is manly to want to raise your sexual experience to a higher level by providing a better situation for your lover. I have yet to meet a woman who is turned on by lots of pubic hair. They may accept it , but that doesn't mean they rejoice over it. Edited by - earthwindfire on 12/24/2013 6:14:55 PM [Link]
Woland Member 69 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 8:48AM 40 years ago you would see far more men with comb-overs than with shaved heads. Is that the kind of manliness you're looking for? [Link]
hebrewhammer Member 99 Posts 4/13	Posted - Jan 2 2014 : 1:03AM earthwindfire wrote: I started shaving my pubes a few years ago for three reasons: 1 - I would not get involved with a woman with hairy pits or a massive bush, so why should I expect her to put up with it 2 - I don't want my lover to have a mouthful of pubic hair when she performs oral 3 - you get far better oral when you are trimmed or smooth as the woman will lick everywhere and be happy with it. No strange odors in your pubic bush, hair in the teeth, etc... a happier woman means better oral This is not letting go of my manhood... It is manly to want to raise your sexual experience to a higher level by providing a better situation for your lover. I have yet to meet a woman who is turned on by lots of pubic hair. They may accept it , but that doesn't mean they rejoice over it. Edited by - earthwindfire on 12/24/2013 6:14:55 PM Click to expand Well spoken. I too have my neither-region completely bald, I just like the feel of it, plus it give the illusion that a mans member is bigger. G-dash-d dammit, Hammer! [Link]
Fld Member 48 Posts 4/14	Posted - May 1 2014 : 6:11PM I'm as hairy as mc1025 and I never met a woman who was embarrassed by my body hairs. They are often indifferent. Women can appreciate hairy men because it's a viril feature. [Link]
Slang_King New Member 5 Posts 5/14	Posted - May 15 2014 : 9:11AM I'm old enough to remember when men were hairy and the sum total of our grooming products was a razor, Brut, Old Spice and soap. Women were (largely) expected to put up n shut up, cook, iron and raise kids. These days, women are as diverse as hairstyles - head, body and pubic - so, if we hope to enjoy ongoing physical intimacy with one, it's in our interest to ADAPT. Men have easily adapted from killing food to buying it, 40 horsepower cars to 400+ hp cars, clunky adding machines via DOS commands to Windows and working alongside women. Many have even adapted to (God forbid!) women being their supervisors or bosses. Alongside the above, adapting to a little pubic topiary seems like small potatoes - especially if that few minutes with a trimmer is the difference between getting an enthusiatic blowjob and a reluctant one,, or even no BJs and no girlfriend. If stubbornly refusing to adapt to the myriad preferences of 21st Century females is 'manly', hell, paint me pink and call me me Deborah. I'd much rather have a few neanderthals think I'm a pussy, while I'm getting some, than have the tailpipe of a 400 hp coupe being the only orifice available to me. Folly is the cloak of knavery. [Link]
Slang_King New Member 5 Posts 5/14	Posted - May 15 2014 : 9:33AM Woland wrote: 40 years ago you would see far more men with comb-overs than with shaved heads. Is that the kind of manliness you're looking for? Click to expand SEXY! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zTHlac9vga4 Edited by - Slang_King on 5/15/2014 9:41:13 AM [Link]
up-katie-perrys-ass Member 70 Posts 5/14	Posted - May 19 2014 : 10:24PM xx Edited by - up-katie-perrys-ass on 5/19/2014 10:25:51 PM [Link]
Slector Member 655 Posts 2/14	Posted - May 24 2014 : 5:11AM To the OP--times change, deal with it or go home. Those are the hard cold facts. I was a long haired metal guy for 37 years. Back then, having hair that did not go down past my shoulders was totally unacceptable to me. My motto was "you can cut my hair when you cut it off my cold dead head". I was that way up until about 2003. Finally I gave in and cut it. Now, there is not a hair on my head over two inches long. I now go back and see those pictures and cannot figure out how I was so stubborn for so long. I wouldn't grow it back that way to save my life. Likewise, I began to trim my pubic hair about that same time. I had never even thought about it until my girlfriend mentioned it to me. Now, I love it and so do the ladies. It's just the way the times change. It doesn't matter how clean you are it just looks more hygienic. Stop hanging on to the old world. No woman wants a duck dynasty beard on their guy's junk these days. [Link]
myssterymann Member 17 Posts 10/14	Posted - Oct 7 2014 : 2:23PM two things i love: a bald pvssy and my freshly shaved sack...especially since i've started sprouting gray hairs down there and because i don't want my partner to have to deal with coughing up hairballs. [Link]
gorillahung Member 20 Posts 11/12	Posted - Oct 30 2014 : 6:09PM I shave smooth every part of my genital region that I want a woman to put in her mouth. That means my balls and my cock are shaved smooth down to the base. I trim the rest of my bush above the base. I like being smooth when a woman goes down on me. I use scissors to trim the bush hairs to about half their normal length. I leave the chest and belly hair alone since I'm not incredibly hairy. If I did have a lot of body hair I would probably trim it. In my opinion the only men that look good without the chest and belly hair are those that have ripped bodies with abdominal muscles. I used to have ripped abs from my mid 20's to mid 30's and I went smooth for a while. I figured since I worked hard developing my abs that I might as well show them off and not leave them hidden under hair. [Link]
Carmen Valentina Member Cam with me LIVE on CarmenValentina.com 57 Posts 6/10	Posted - Nov 2 2014 : 1:30PM Speaking for myself, I spend ALOT more time licking and sucking the body parts that aren't going to cause me to cough up a hairball ;) [Link]
DAPistheBEST Deactivated User 36 Posts 8/14	Posted - Nov 2 2014 : 5:09PM Carmen Valentina wrote: Speaking for myself, I spend ALOT more time licking and sucking the body parts that aren't going to cause me to cough up a hairball ;) Click to expand Yes, and that is why men like us shave our pubic area. We get a lot better time with our lovers :) Guys who keep it a full bush don't realize that, because the women are not complaining about it,so they think they love it. [Link]
Metuio Deactivated User 3 Posts 12/14	Posted - Dec 4 2014 : 4:26PM Spam deleted Edited by - joey starr on 12/4/2014 8:34:57 PM [Link]
ScottMcGowan Your Choice "Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films 149 Posts 7/10	Posted - Dec 10 2014 : 9:52AM I dunno, I think defining what constitutes a man or a woman is boring and inhibiting. I don't know what 'a real man' is supposed to look like, as I've seen then in all shapes, sizes, hairless and hairy, etc. etc. Same for 'real women.' I won't claim that I'm not susceptible to what media and advertising has to say on the topic. I'm not gonna say I'm not affected by the ridiculous gender norms I was taught as a child. But I'm pretty much over it. I've generally stopped trying to define people by their genitalia. I've come to love the diversity I've learned about through both my personal life and porn. Edited by - ScottMcGowan on 12/10/2014 9:53:15 AM [Link]
Not Lucy Lee (Fake Account) Deactivated User Libert�, Egalit�, Sexualit�! 355 Posts 9/14	Posted - Dec 10 2014 : 4:12PM the problem is not looks but hygiene...real guys have hairy balls, asses and armpits and i dont have problem with that if they are clean and take shower before sex but some guys are dirty and dont care. [Link]