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| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 |  Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 8:47AMDevils Films and a lot of other companies hire East European girls for their productions. Although they look stunning most of the time and they are willing to do the raunchiest stuff in the bizz... scenes with those girls mostly don't do it for me. Looking in the camera is the first thing I don't like. So often it is sooo clear that those girls are only doing this stuff to pay the bills. In scenes they hardly take the initiative to do something spontanious. The look at the cameraman or director with the questionmark "what must I do next?" The best example is the ffm scenes where the girls wait their turn to be fucked in stead of really join the action. When they are ordered to lick another girls ass, the hardly touch the spot with their tounge. I have seen scenes from companies like sineplex.. where those east european girls look like they have pain when they are taken from behind. Generally it seems that those actresses don't enjoy themselves. No... they are beautiflull and of course their are also some good scenes every now and then buit general... I Fast forward the Devils Films and Sineplex Stuff. [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 8:52AM [Link] |
| desi800 New Member 5 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 9:14AM - K [Link] |
| Ivar Member 54 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 9:38AM [Link] |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 10:10AM Well, to be fair, I only go to work every day because I like to eat and pay the rent. I'm sure that lots of American girls are only in porn for the money too. [/quote] Well o.k maybe I ment it this way: Most of those East European girls look like they really have to do this because there is no other means of supporting themselves. Of course I have no proof of that but they really seem not to be into the stuff. Alot of american pornstars seem to enjoy it. Just a little pick: Flower Tucci, Sindee Jennings, Renae Cruz, Jenna Haze, Sasha Grey, Rebeca Linares etc etc The only east european girls who seem to enjoy it are Clara G, nella, sophie moon and sandy [Link] |
| Keni Member www.kenistylesblog.com 131 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 10:28AM I have to agree to a certain extent although I dont agree in the massive generalisation. There are some good stars here who really do love what they do and are every bit as into it as they are for the money. However I do agree that there are a large percentage of 'just for the money' girls here and honestly thats fine if they can carry off the performance. However most are not even bothered about the results of the movie and most definitley have hooker mentality! These chicks are tough work and honestly are not great fun to work with or watch. However I guess one good thing that you could take from this is that it breeds some of the industries top male performers. To function in some of the circumstances we are put in over here means you can function with anything! Something good comes out of every bad in my opinion... Keni KENI ON YOUTUBE [Link] |
| neophyte Member UK 101 Posts 2/04 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 11:57AM I like if they sometimes appear a little distant or unsure - that's probably how they're feeling, so it's real. Ditto looking in pain - those outsize dicks probably do hurt. I feel enormously privileged they're sharing their sexuality with porn viewers like me. [Link] |
| Lange Member Make Gapes not War 230 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 12:04PM I think there are also many great girls in America. But I can't stand all the nonsense dirty talk and over the top acting. When a girl like Bree Olson screams: I'm cumming, I'm cumming 4 or 5 times during a scene I just think com' on, who are you trying to fool? If you want eastern european women at their best you should watch some Cristoph Clark movies. He always gets the best from the girls he shoot. [Link] |
| JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08 | Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 12:41PM [Link] |
| alpestris Member 20 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Jul 7 2008 : 3:30PM Anyway, who could not have enjoyed watching Julie Silver and Dora Ventner in action? Edited by - alpestris on 7/7/2008 3:51:45 PM [Link] |
| eduardo911 Senior Member 1299 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jul 7 2008 : 7:37PM Click to expand Alot of american pornstars seem to enjoy it. Just a little pick: [...] Rebeca Linares The only east european girls who seem to enjoy it are Clara G, nella, sophie moon and sandy Click to expand Rebeca Linares is not American (granted, she's not East European either, she's West European, like e.g. Annette Schwarz and Katja Kassin to name two more obvious examples of non-American girls seeming to enjoy it.And what about Monica Sweetheart? She sure seems to like it, too. Nika Noire and Katerina Kat also come to mind. [Link] |
| HarryWild Member Make me believe 622 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Jul 7 2008 : 9:51PM But Evil Empire uses most of their ladies from the same place. Rocco can sure pick them! They are the "best" of all the ladies I have seen in all my videos. I think it is their beauty and raunchiness combined that makes them a big step above the rest. [Link] |
| not ruff enuff 4 me Member 46 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jul 28 2008 : 7:19PM hell,i listen to others opinions,, and don't get the men who write that the women in porn should not be treated as sex objects.or that they should be given flowers and loved.that they should be all smiles tickled and given boxes of candy. UNREAL.they pass up 9-5 jobs to go to houses/sets to have sex with strangers for an hour or two,,walk away with thousands of dollars. if i made that in a day,i'd carry rocks or shovel shit for a living!!!!! [Link] |
| The DMan Senior Member 1844 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jul 28 2008 : 9:24PM There are a fair number of good, talented east-european porn starlets out there, and I've been quite happy seeing Monica Sweetheart and Nikita Denise in action, as well as Angel Dark, Maya Gates, Liliane Tiger, Tera Bond, Jennifer Dark, Rita Faltoyano and Sharka Blue. Plus, I've heard good things about Mya Diamond. [Link] |
| xxaru Member 128 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jul 28 2008 : 10:29PM [Link] |
| md92h Member 11 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 9:49AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 11:19AM [Link] |
| camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 11:56AM And to tintintin: You should look a Rocco's stuff from St. Petersburg (this is were all movies from Devils and Sineplex are made), and you will see the exactly same girls in much more pleasure and fun. It's all about the director and the male talent, they make a scene good or bad. And like Lange said, also check out Christoph's movies, you will not be dissapointed. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 12:09PM The oral cumshot is a big deal for me and so many American porn girls are the biggest cum dodgers ever. Now while I'm sure most of them are doing it strictly for the money, they do what they do pretty well and they look spectacular doing it. I'm sure it's pretty difficult to find women anywhere who are perfectly willing to lick another woman's ass. I would really love it if they would but at least I can understand ass licking is not everyone's cup of tea. The main complaint I would have against Devil's Films is that the male talent isn't always that great. There is one guy who seems to work for them a lot, I think his name is Franco Roccaforte. He is good most of the time. Some of the others? Not so much. And I disagree on another thing. I think a lot of European porn chicks actually really like to fuck. I don't get the sense that they're acting too much. Especially when they're paired with a real stud that they obviously dig. A lot of American chicks, I get a much more mechanical sense from them and a sense that they're not really getting into the sex that much. Edited by - randomprecision on 7/29/2008 12:14:52 PM [Link] |
| camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 1:26PM And I'm with you RandomPrecision, many of them like to get fucked. Edited by - camaban on 7/29/2008 1:27:48 PM [Link] |
| xxaru Member 128 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 3:00PM [Link] |
| Baggio Member 451 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 4:14PM Try renting Euro porn, if you want euro girls. [Link] |
| Faxon New Member 2 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 5:54PM If there are any recommendations for hot euro chicks that actually get into it and heaven forbid have orgasms, I'd be interested in knowing. [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 7:30PM [Link] |
| Dither Persona non grata I love America 650 Posts 8/05 | Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 7:47PM [Link] |
| solidsnake Member Dying To Live 266 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 8:42PM [Link] |
| camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 6:14AM [Link] |
| camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 6:24AM - Lea Lexis and Lucy Belle in Evil Anal 6 - Cecilia Vega in Evil Anal 6 - Sabrina Sweet in Evil Anal 6 - Lucy Belle in Slutty and Sluttier 7 - Milka Manson in Slutty and Sluttier 7 - Regina Ice in Young Harlots in Detention - Pearly Blue in Younf Harlots in Detention - Deniska in Young Harlots - Riding School - Camilla Ken in Rocco: Puppet Master - Wiska in Rocco: Breaking Ass in St. Petersburg - Lucy N. in Big Natrual Tits 19 (2 Scenes) - the whole movie Romanian Angel by Christoph Clark This is what comes in my mind, which I watched the last few weeks. Maybe you simple watch the wrong movies? Or is a girl only into it for you if she talks dirty through the whole scene saying over and over phrases like "Oh my god" or "I'm coming"? Then you will not find anything good in European porn, because it's not the nature of Eastern European girls to act their performance, like it's usual in US porn. The best examples are the Eurobabes who gone to the US for shooting, like Jennifer Dark or Maya Gates for example. Their performances are now totally different from the ones they did before in Europe. I think the directors urge the girls to act, taking dirty, ... because it's sells better on the US market. [Link] |
| jackthetreacleeater Senior Member Shame on you! 2003 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 7:33AM Eatsern European girls just have a differnet style, they can be maybe colder looking sometimes, but they are more willing to do more depraved acts than their American colleagues. I love just as many Eastern European girls as I do American girls. Eastern Europe did give us Sandra Romain after all. Probably the most intense and professional pornstar in history, in my opinion. The woman never did a scene in which she didn't give 100% everytime. New girls I've seen lately such as Bonny Bon, Britney, Gabriella Mai and Nika Noire are all great performers who throw themselves into their work. Nothing says romance like anal sex. [Link] |
| Pine_Barrens Member 38 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 8:56AM Sorry, english's not my language. Tried to explain but failed. [Link] |
| dannydeviant Member 10 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 9:58AM [Link] |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 11:46AM A nice example of that it mostly has to do with the actresses that those movies don't sparkle is director Jay Sin. I have tried alot of Jay Sins Sineplex productions with european girls willing to do all kind of stuff... but it didn't do it for me. I was bored watching it. Now Jay Sin is directing with American girls for evil angel and he makes the hottest movies!!! The action is the same but the grils seem to enjoy all the nasty stuff.. and they take more initiative doing things.. they don't wait for the director [Link] |
| LudwigVB New Member 1 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 3:37PM [Link] |
| Jameson2k4 Member 185 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 5:38PM That only leaves Russia, the Ukraine and maybe a few smaller countries as true Eastern European. All in all I agree with the OP, of course one shouldn´t put them all in the same pot, but you can easily recognize the difference between someone who actually enjoys his/her job and someone only doing it for the money. I just prefer professionals when it comes to porn, it´s like in professional sports. No one would pay to see me play basketball with my friend in the backyard, but people pay thousands of dollars for a front row sit in a Knicks/Lakers game. It´s the same when hiring inexperienced Eastern Europeans. [Link] |
| mrdngm Member 754 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 12:58AM But in the end, I prefer American performers. It's not complicated -- probably just because I am American and American performers are more likely to remind me of the women I encounter in my day-to-day. I just like that correlation. [Link] |
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| Dr_Fell Member 545 Posts 6/08 | Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 2:15AM More worrisome is that if you see a great Eastern European woman, it is less likely that she's going to end up with as many titles to her credit as an American girl. One of the great pleasures of pr0n is being able to watch a woman develop from her initial efforts to the full realization of her sexual prowess. I miss Alexandra Nice. She set a high standard for Eastern Europeans. [Link] |
| Demandred Member 14 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Aug 31 2008 : 7:21AM Anyway, I really think most of the complaints about the East Euro girls mentioned here are more about the directors than the performers. Looking into the camera for example is something chosen by the director, not the fault of the girls. I love the East European girls, but I don't like Cineplex, Devil's films and most others companies who shoot mostly with them since their directors and crews usually do a terrible job IMO. Very often the same girls look way more enthuasistic (without being over the top) and enjoying themselves in the movies of Toni Ribas, for example, or when they go to the US and work with the top directors and performers there. Get them in a scene with Mark Ashley shot by Mike Quasar or Pat Myne for example and I am sure plenty of them would do great. Quite a few still would give a mediocre scene at best, but it's the same situation with the American girls. edited link for screen width reasons... Edited by - heynow on 8/31/2008 12:34:59 PM [Link] |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Aug 31 2008 : 10:46AM [Link] |
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