Memphis Monroe
Holly Morgan
Jenna Presley
Carli Banks
Cody Lane

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"Had there been a draft in 2003 (the best class of new starlets EVER) how would it have gone down?"

Just a little fantasy pornball on my end...no harm.

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I thought it best to talk about these women before they disappeared (where's Katrina Kraven lately? Cytherea?) and we forgot about them altogether. We've lost so many already: Tiana Lynn retired this year and I'm still coping with not having new scenes from girls like Bella-Marie Wolfe, Brooke Milano, Cris Taliana, Crystal Ray, Katin, Lily Thai, Rose and Serena South.

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No Beer, No TV, Make Homer Go Crazy!

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Can you nominate a class and notable members that were better? I'm not saying I'm not wrong, I'd just like to hear your opinion and why.

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Katja Kassin, I think Katja is a top 10 girl in this biz

Luci Thai: was at one time the top asian girl working in the biz then took a break ,I don't think she will ever will get back to the popularity she once had

Marie luv :The top black girl in the biz and a top 20 girl in the biz

Isabel Ice: my favorite european girl that works more in the usa than europe also a top 20

Roxy Jezel : another fav from europe and I think a top 25 girl in the biz

but all these girls are in my top 15

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It was a different climate back in the days you so fondly recall and ladies like Racquel Darrian, Savannah and others mostly took part in porn with a plot or features. There were actually "headliners" and "boxcover" girls that had to have star power to sell their movies. Even so, whatever year Racquel and Savannah debuted, were there any other standout newbies that year? Even if there were, I doubt there were as many as 2003.

You take today's stars to task for being "filler" but how would talent like Darrian and Savannah fare in today's gonzo environment?

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1)Christie Lee
2)Brooke Milano
3)Cris Taliana
4)Nautica Thorn

I think Teagan just missed the cutoff

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Not "so called headliners"? &quotfiller outers"? "Not the lead"?

Katja Kassin ? Lauren Phoenix ?

HUH?!

Dude...

You gotta do better than that. I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt since you used the word "are", and assume you are talking about right now, this minute. Lauren's not working all that much anymore, and Katja has also slowed her pace considerably. But if you mean anytime prior to that, you just weren't paying attention over the past few years.

This ain't even about opinion, mine or yours, as to the relative worth of these women. And ain't even fanboy slavering. Just the facts and history of gonzo porn during the explosion of the past five years or so.

Lauren Phoenix was the Female Performer of the Year, in two consecutive years, as voted by two of the biggest industry media organizations in porn. And she had a series line completely dedicated to her as Elegant Angel's Ass Woman. Katja Kassin only created a new porn genre, (or at least brought it to the mainstream and out of the strictly fetish category), and was, without question, the hottest gonzo porn star in the world, for a significant period of time. As much as Katja worked, and as popular and as much in demand as she was, she was the boxcover queen in 2004 and 2005, and you could make a strong arguement that she, individually, has moved more porn product than any other single porn performer over the past three years. For two full years, you couldn't swing a dead cat in a porn store and not hit a Katja Kassin boxcover.

Even with the fickleness of porn, and it's impetus to always move on to the "next big thing", Katja and Lauren were never, &quotfiller outers", and certainly not during the timeframe that C.J. is alluding to. Both achieved headliner status pretty quickly and maintained it longer than the totality of most porn careers. When the history of gonzo is written I think both will be featured fairly prominently.

These are not B-level porn girls. Both of these people are going to the Porn Hall of Fame.

Bet the farm.

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BTW, you missed the #1 draft pick for 2003: Teagan.

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OK, I'll play. 2001 was a better draft year. Top picks included Jenna Haze, Taylor Rain, Aurora Snow, Krystal Steal, Tommi Rose, Shyla Styles, Belladonna, Cameron Cain, and Cassie Young, among many other greats from that year.

BTW, you missed the #1 draft pick for 2003: Teagan.

Wichever year Teagan lost to Cytheria, had to be a good crop, and I agree that Teagan was easily #1.

If that is the 2001 crop I would agree as way better than 2003.Ranked:

1. Taylor Rain
2. Jenna Haze
3. Aurora Snow
4. Cameron Caine
5. Shyla Styles

And I do not under stand all the Katja Kasin fans? Everytime Theres a dvd with a few stars I want to see, and then see her name, I think Damn! theres 1 less scene because I will be FF through hers.

She May be a great person, I just don't want to see her porn scenes. I like her even less than Ashley Blue. Ashley may be the least attractive of all major Porn stars, but at least I can watch her for her vigor. This is just my personal preference.

BTW - If anyone's interested, I have filthy things 3 starring Katja, I will trade it for anything JM that I do not already have, she just does nothing for me.

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2001:
Ashley Long
Angel Long
Carmen Luvana
Andrea Spinks
Fujiko Kano

2000:
Kimi Lixx
Faith Adams
Dominica Leoni
Sophie Moone
Sharon Wild

From 2003 I'd pick these girls:
Vicky Vette
Selena Silver
Lily Thai
Roxy Jezel
Katsumi

There might be others, but this was just from a quick Google-scan of IAFD.

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But...

AVN tends to be a little bit behind on these things. The other nominees for Best New Starlet that year besides Teagan and Cytherea were: Audrey Hollander, Nicki Hunter, Katrina Kraven, Christie Lee, Jennifer Luv, Missy Monroe, Gia Paloma, Lily Thai, Lucy Thai, Nautica Thorn, Dana Vespoli, Vicky Vette and Dani Woodward; all of whom got their starts in '03 (which just further supports my argument) with the exception of Jennifer Luv, who had been around since '02. This was a stacked field of Best New Starlets; a virtual pick'em of '03 newbies.

A few of the nominees for Female Performer of the Year that year? Ariana Jollee, Katja Kassin and Lauren Phoenix (along with Cytherea and Katrina Kraven who, as you saw above, were also nominated for Best New Starlet that same year).

If you want to get super-specific, my #1 pick Ariana Jollee began shooting scenes in '02, but I generally consider her an '03 gal. As you can see, where it concerns pornstars and debuts (due to there being delays between when they actually do their first movie to when their first movie is actually released) it's not an exact science.

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2003

1. Dana Vespoli
2. Katrina Kraven
3. Audrey Hollander
4. Ariana Jollee
5. Lauren Phoenix

2002

1. Ashley Blue
2. Julie Night
3. Olivia O'Lovely
4. Avy Scott
5. Bella Marie Wolf
6. Ashley Long
7. Flower Tucci

2001

1. Cherie
2. Angel Long
3. Shyla Stylez
4. Jenna Haze
5. Jessica Dee
6. Sandra Romain

2000

1. Belladonna
2. Aurora Snow
3. Ryan Conner
4. Nikita Denise
5. Monica Sweetheart
6. Rita Faltoyano

1999

1. Venus
2. April Flowers
3. Anastasia Blue
4. Daniella Rush

1998
1. Jewel DeNyle
2. Inari Vachs
3. Kelly Stafford
4. Elle DeVyne
5. Kaylynn
6. Veronica Caine
7. Keri Windsor

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But which year did Belladonna come into the biz? If Bella, Jenna Haze and Aurora all hit the same year, that one is hard to beat. OK, 2000: That's close.

But pornologist just threw Dana Vespoli and Katrina Kraven into the mix for 2003, so ... game over!

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Alicia Alighatti
This Pennsylvania native has very pretty blue eyes, a solid 34C natural rack, and is relatively tall at 5'7". Alicia's blowjob skills are superb and she gives very energetic anal performances.

Brandy Talore
At the beginning of her career Brandy was a timid performer who made her living based on those magnificent melons. She's improved her performances lately, and if she sticks around for a while it will be interesting to see how she progresses.

Brooke Haven
This good looking petite chick with large boobs started off her career with her ass off limits, but that soon changed. Good performer.

Courtney Cummz
This sexy brunette from Florida earned her stripes in the trenches before signing on to be Zero Tolerance's first contract babe. Top girl.

Delilah Strong
Delilah is a very pretty girl with a friendly personality, but forget all that, because this girl can get down and dirty with the best of them. She swallows loads like they're milkshakes, and since last fall it's been all aboard the A-Train.

Dillan Lauren
Dillan is from Philadelphia, and as Ava Vincent found out, you don't mess with Philly girls. When asked about her parents disapproval of her sexual lifestyle, Dillan responded, “that’s their problem because I love to fuck.”
That attitude shows up in movies like Assault That Ass 5. Go Eagles!

Faith
Faith is a Southern beauty, with black hair and lovely blue eyes. She's also one of the tallest girls in the business at 5'11". She steals the show in Brandon Iron's A Good Source of Iron 4, swallowing multiple loads and even throwing in a dp for good measure.

Harmony Rose
Harmony is a lovely girl, whose standout feature is her very sexy eyes. She also has a fine booty that's now open for business.

Hillary Scott
Hillary Scott is a true star in every sense of the word. Her good looks, positive attitude, and consistent performances separate her from the pack. I'm not usually into fake boobs, but hers turned out fantastic. In Anal Princess Diaries, Hillary meets every challenge thrown at her including a five man gangbang dap and dpp assault that she attacks with the gusto her fans have come to appreciate.

Holly Wellin
The British Invasion brought to the States many fine musical acts, but I don't remember any of them having blonde hair with 34C boobs. Rule Britannia!

Jasmine Byrne
Jasmine is a major league fox, with a pussy that's more plump and juicy then a ballpark frank on the 4th of July. The girl's got attitude and brings it to every scene.

Jenaveve Jolie
This Latina dream babe has a pretty face and large 34D's that are sure to grab any man's attention. She doesn't do anal, but so what. Real nice girl.

Kelly Wells
Don't let her pretty face fool you. Kelly's middle name isn't "fuckin'" for nothing. Limitation is a word missing from this girl's dictionary, and she takes it hard in all three holes like a pit bull attacking a neighbor's leg. I love her.

Keri Sable
Girl-next-door pretty, Keri was an immediate porn sensation the minute she got off the bus. She went from vag only teen dream to Red Light District anal whore in nothing flat, before fizzling out as a contract babe. Like Teagan, she has her detractors, but no one will soon forget this girl.

Mia Bangg
Do you like her better as a blonde or a brunette? While you ponder that question, I'll be staring at that ass.

Nadia Styles
This very pretty Latina brings her "A" game everytime she steps onto a set. In her first anal scene in Barely Legal Corrupted 1, this girl started a five alarm fire without matches. Her energy is amazing.

Sammie Rhodes
O.K., while it's disappointing that Sammie only does g/g now, no one who calls himself a man can forget her b/g days doing reverse cowgirl, while her gorgeous 32D's bounced like jello.

Tiffany Holiday
Tiffany Fuckin' Holiday is Kelly Wells' brunette sister. Well, not really, but she has that same nasty whore attitude and good looks that Kelly brings to the table. Tiffany can talk a blue streak that could make even the nastiest English whore blush. Are Tiffany's boobs real? Those 34B's are too succulent to be fake.

Tiffany Taylor
Tiffany Taylor is a gorgeous woman. Her face and her boobs are first class. I wish her performances matched her looks, but she has improved a little bit since her days as Heather Hunt. She makes my list on her good looks alone.

Tory Lane
Tory Lane doesn't have an off switch. Once the lights go on, she attacks her scene with a ferocity and an abundance of sexual energy that outshines all but the brightest stars. She's also pretty which never hurts.

Trina Michaels
Trina's haircolor may change, but that body is a constant. This girl was built for sex. Trina's face, breasts, legs, and ass are all first class.

Tyla Wynn
Tyla is a sexy girl who doesn't know the meaning of the word shy. She's pretty much done it all.

Vanessa Lane
Vanessa can't throw a baseball 90 mph or run the 100 in under 10 seconds, but who cares because she can do a dp while doing full standing splits, and that's much more impressive anyway.

More notable girls from 2004:

Deja Daire

Heather Gables

Mary Jane

Stacy Thorn

Veronica Lynn

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6. Katrina Kraven
Then: Katrina Kraven was honest to God my main reason for even going to AEE '04. After seeing a plethora of stills, Double Dip'Er 2, From Her Ass to Her Mouth, Spread'em Wide and Riot Sluts this was one woman I had to meet in person. She signed for Evolution Erotica and in stark contrast to her wild and reckless onscreen persona, Katrina was very bashful and quiet in person. She couldn't even believe she had fans. I was so caught up in meeting her the first time that I didn't even bother to get a picture with her; I had to sheepishly come back the NEXT day for that. I reminisced: "The nicest, sweetest and genuine girl you’ll ever meet with the rare ability, apparently, to go from zero to cum-starved erection-inducer in no time flat." AVN called Katrina "A charter member of a new crop (Lauren Phoenix, Ariana Jollee, etc.) of fearless, jaw-droppingly wanton super-whores who have expanded the boundaries (as well as their orifices) of what female talent will do, Kraven has made [audiences] stand up and take notice in just about everything she's done." and "other releases she's appeared in will almost certainly result in Kraven being nominated later this year for either Best New Starlet or Female Performer of the Year."

Now: Try both. Kraven was nominated for Best New Starlet AND Female Performer of the Year at the '05 Awards. The woman that AFWG described as an "all-around tramp who does anything" has slowed considerably, almost dropping out of sight completely. The only thing I'm aware of her shooting this year was DVSX's Sick Boys Need Sick Girls 2 and that was a four-girl lesbian scene. But at her height there was no one who gave you more than Katrina Kraven. A self-described sexaholic, she clearly enjoyed every load she took the face, every cock that came into her circumference. She had so many things that were unique to her: the coy biting of her bottom lip, her smile, her orgasm face and various random things she did that made me think she was channelling the late Anna Malle. I miss her.

Standout Scenes: You'll be hard pressed to top that Riot Sluts scene with Erik Everhard. He tore that girl apart and it hurt her so good. She and Mason are kindred spirits, it seems as Katrina had another of her best scenes with Manuel Ferrara and Denis Marti in Mason's Sexual Disorder. She's had some classic interaction with her '03 classmates, as well: Big Wet Asses 4 with Lauren Phoenix and Anal Showdown (with Tony T in the former, g/g in the latter) and The NarcASSist with Jackie Moore and Benjamin Bratt directed by Ariana Jollee.

7. Dana Vespoli
Then: My first look at Vespoli came in Tight & Asian 3. Besides being impressed with how well-spoken Dana was (she has a degree in comparative lit) in addition to her worldliness and poise, I noted her her "34A titties, bronzed complexion and expansive backside. Of Thai and Irish decent, Dana is so bottom-heavy...there was one shot of her in cowgirl where her ass literally took up three-fourths of my screen." Jon Dough and Brian Surewood couldn't handle this sexy and full-grown woman; they both came early and the pussy was so good they dove back in for seconds. I had no idea this lady was 30 back then. After doing her first onscreen anal with Erik Everhard and Lily Thai in From Her Ass To Her Mouth, Dana REALLY opened up, "starring in progressively more awesome, rough-sex oriented scenes." Vespoli took to more and more frequent anal poundings in that stupendous back bumper, becoming an anal queen of sorts and was soon known for her exorcism-like orgasms where her eyes rolled back into her skull and she rabidly licked her own armpits. Just as she hit her stride and seemingly peaked in her onscreen sexual self-discovery, she married fellow performer Manuel Ferrara and bid the porn world adieu.

Now: The honeymoon, as it were, is now over and Dana is back. While she was never top-heavy, she's returned a bit leaner with a few more tattoos but the performances remain the same. She also recently directed Cock Starved for Digital Sin. AFWG calls her "an exotic sultry beauty" and "amazingly energetic."

Standout Scenes: Azz Fest 3 with Brian Surewood and Brett Rockman. She's plenty woman for one man but Dana, in my opinion, always excelled when faced with two. 2 on 1 #17 with Joel Lawrence and Mark Davis, Sweet Cheeks 5 with John Strong and Steve Holmes and never has her womanhood factored in as such an efficient tool than in her scene with a fresh and dewy Kayla Marie as they take on Sean Michaels in Service Animals 16 and then in a similar situation with Kimberly Kane and Julian in Fresh New Faces 4.

8. Roxy Jezel
Then: I remember not knowing what to make of Roxy Jezel when I first saw her. By her looks, she was definitely asian but when she spoke, a decidedly British accent emerged. I was intrigued. All-natural with a slight build AFWG says Roxy "fucks as prolifically and maniacally as a bunny on a steady diet of Spanish fly." Roxy showed me everything she had in David Aaron Clark's Banana Cream Pie 2, leaving Brett Rockman, Brian Heston and Brian Surewood a sweaty crumpled mass of beaten men gasping for air at the scene's conclusion. I have since described her as being a hummingbird and a Duracell battery who has never lacked for energy and in a performance class all her own.

Now: Still at it and still full-speed ahead. There hasn't been as much of her work released at this mid-year point as there has been in past years but what I have been seeing is still the same old Roxy Jezel: giving 150% every minute that red light is on.

Standout Scenes: Weapons of Ass Destruction 3 (Jezel has Jayno Oso on a leash and then shares Michael Stefano with her), Tales from the Crack (she and fellow cowgirl Tiffany Mynx rustle up Brandon Iron), Asian Bang (she interviews for a secretary position with Brian Surewood but after he fucks her ragged, he calls in Jack Venice, Steven French and Buster Good to help him finish the job).

9. Kami Andrews
Then: Butt Quest 3. That was my introduction. And if you've seen the cover to that joint, you know that's about as perfect a first impression as one can make. Kami's another chick who hit the ground running, opening herself up for any and everything from her very first scene. Full of personality and rapier-like wit, Kami's just a plain blast. Her tendency to say the absolute WEIRDEST shit EVER during her scenes has endeared her to me. That and the fact that she actually pulled me out of a line in Vegas when she spotted/recognized me, which scared/surprised the ever-loving shit outta me at the time. Ever since then, I've wanted to visit Kamiland on a regular basis.

Now: After a short-lived stint as "Salome" at Extreme, the proud Pittsburgh resident landed at Elegant Angel where she has directed and starred in two installments of Who Let The Whores Out? and appeared looking better than EVER in their Big Wet Asses 8.

Standout Scenes: It's gotta be Riot Sluts with Brandon Iron. "She and Brandon Iron managed to make that scene so rough, so sexy, so real, I was actually FRIGHTENED. When it ended and Brandon shoved her in the trunk, I actually ran to all my windows and then peeked out of my peephole to see if anyone had seen me watch it. That's how DIRTY, how wrong, how guilty I felt after it was over; like I should have been ARRESTED for watching and enjoying it so much." Other than that (and lucky for moi) Kami seems to excel at taking big black cocks. Slayer Unleashed 3, Big Black Beast and Take It Black 3 all illustrate my point perfectly.

10. Cytherea
Then: "As far as adult industry sensations go, precious are the few who've created as immediate and earth shattering a stir as Cytherea, the 22-year-old enchantress whose signature talent - her propensity for expelling fluid like the fountains of the Bellagio when she climaxes- simply floors all who witness it." - AVN.

And therein lied her appeal. Cytherea's squirting orgasms, then, were so unique and world-rocking (for her and anyone watching) that you simply had to see it again and again and I imagine many a fan did. Over and over, we watched her lithe barely-legal body shake, quiver and convulse as endless streams of "female ejaculate" sprayed forth from her dripping snatch and she took several moments to collect herself after each explosion. She was an unstoppable force and I can't think of many starlets more popular or sought after during this time. She literally opened the floodgates for other "squirters" in the industry. Now squirting is a high-profile fetish and practically it's own genre. There were plenty of squirters before her but thank Cytherea, the Goddess of Gush, for the unbelievable popularity the phenomenon currently enjoys. How real is squirting? I don't know but I know many a talent, Cytherea included, who do it now but didn't when they first started performing.

Now: Since Cytherea snatched Best New Starlet away from odds-on favorite Teagan at the '05 AVN Awards much like Marcia Gay Harden in Pollock took it away from the all-but-crowned Kate Hudson in Almost Famous at the Oscars, I honestly don't know WHERE this woman is. She's fallen off the face of the earth. The rumor mill has her battling drug problems amongst other things and after seeing her in Pulse's Cytherea's Anal Whores in her first anal scene (which NO ONE made a big deal about) I'm apt to believe the water cooler scuttlebutt. She was NOT looking her best in that offering; jaw clenched tight, slurred speech and teeth grinding a mile a minute, it wasn't a flattering sight. A far cry from the woman who "usually winds up obliterating cameras, sofas and walls with such unruly cunt spurtings."

Standout Scenes: Anything from her three Squirtwoman movies or Swallow My Squirt 2 (with Tiana Lynn and Randy Spears) for Elegant Angel; Patrick Collins and his cadre of demented directors really did provide a perfect platform for Cytherea to shine once they realized there was money to be made. Internal Cumbustion 3 and What Gets You Off.

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Katin. OMG. OMFG. OMMFG. We did bong hits. I'd never even seen her do anything but cover the Minion in flour. When I finally saw her in a few scenes, I wasn't sure if I should jack off or not. I just thought she was the coolest 20-year-old I'd ever met. It's hard to be objective.

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3 Katja Kassin

4 Dana Vespoli

5 Audrey Hollander

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I am usually not all that attracted to Asian girls, but Roxy quickly became a personal favorite. I've actually recently been watching a lot of her older scenes as well as buying up older titles of hers that I missed to fill in the holes in my collection, so to speak.

The "hummingbird and Duracell battery" similes are brilliant as they truly describe Roxy's energy. She seems to just get better and better. I recall at one point that she either retired or that it was rumored she'd retired, and, as a fan, that was a sad day. Great that she is still performing. To make this into something close to an "on-topic" post, someone on this board (can't recall who it was) once said that pornstars were like athletes. I cannot think of a better example of the truth of this than the sexy, petite, "energizer bunny" that is Roxy Jezel.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
Peace.
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