for career reasons. Meaning they want to "pace" themselves and do IR scenes later in their MILF stages, shoot some scenes in the prime of their career (ages 18-23). They could then put these scenes in the "vault" and then release them years later. These scenes would then make tons of money for them as well as jumpstart their career in its later (MILF) stages. It would also be fun to guess which upcoming startlets might have IR scenes in the vault tucked away! This doesnt apply to porn starlets who dont do IR scenes for other reasons. Anyone have thoughts on this?
How 'bout this....I have a question: Why can't there be one IR thread? Anything that has to do with IR should be in that thread. It get's weary when people start threads with a different title , but more than likely it will end up the same 'ol running rants dissing the stars who don't do IR. Then on to race..etc..etc..etc I think I need to take a break from ADT.
What if everybody in the world finally realized that there is no such thing as "IR"... That there is only ONE race of humans on this planet and it comes in a variety of shapes, sizes and colours... Oh... that's right... then bigots would have nothing to whinge on about.
[Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User
I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - May 14 2010 : 9:13AM
Then the moderators here wouldn't have anything to do.
Tell that to the industry that made the category, which absurdly only applies to scenes with Blacks. Apparently they think only two races exist in the world.
[Link]
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy Deactivated User
Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity! 465 Posts 3/10
Posted - May 14 2010 : 12:13PM
Stick that giant circumcised white cock up that black ass.
Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com 1390 Posts 7/05
Posted - May 14 2010 : 6:42PM
Yup, and the IR subset: "As far as I'm concerned, if she'll ONLY fuck (insert the name of any male talent whose skin is less than deepest black), she's STILL not doing Interracial!" The list is growing.
[Link]
Gummy Bear Deactivated User
94 Posts 4/10
Posted - May 14 2010 : 6:55PM
The original poster (johnjohn99) has only 14 posts yet he's already started or posted to the following threads: What if porn starlets who refuse to do IR.... Black On White Sites As Extreme As Ghettogaggers (4 times) The Definitive IR Thread! What would you like to see in IR porn in 2010 Blk Women are not embraced by white porn makers? A celebration of the beautiful girls who DID do IR (2 times) It seems like someone is just a tad obsessed with interracial porn.
Conversely, what if everyone who hated IR threads simply stayed out of them? I can understand being bothered by them, really. But why comment? This would be a pretty easy thread to ignore in the thousands of threads on here. If allowed to run its course, it would probably die a fairly quick death as do many of the threads on here. What really happens in most IR threads on this board is: 1)Some guy starts an IR thread. 2)Someone then posts "not another IR thread!!" 3)Someone else posts "why are there so many IR threads on this board?" then followed by two or three rebuttals, the gist of most "con" arguments against IR threads consist of chiding IR fans for their obsession with IR (which may be valid or not, the fact is most fans/collectors of ANYTHING are generally completists or searching out something unseen or desired) 4)Somebody else posts a note about how quickly it'll be blocked. 5)Another person posts their clever "blocked" image. 6)Repeat step 5 7)Repeat step 5 8)Repeat step 5 9)One person gets out of control from either side of the argument says something bad. 10)The thread is then locked. I think there are guys on here who just like to see the IR threads blocked. I wonder how many of the same names continually pop in these threads just to say "not another IR thread..." Again I wonder, why not just ignore?
It's narcissism. It is not enough that these people not be involved in IR discussion. They are not satisfied until YOU cannot be, either. Why not just ignore, indeed.
I don't see anything wrong with the first post in fact. If you look at porn as a business (which would make sense) it's smart to have highly marketable specialty scenes (which I am loathe to refer to IR as- specialty- but it is what it is in the business) that you own and can release at a later date. Practically every girl with any longevity has her own website, and its pretty easy to get a videocamera and shoot a scene. If porn gets piracy down to a manageable minimum, it makes sense for girls to control a bit more of their destiny and use specialty scenes to their advantage. Now as to why I think it wouldn't be the best idea, simply, the timing doesn't work. Once a girl's day has passed, it just has. I recall when a bunch of Seka's footage that had gone unseen for years was released, probably towards the beginning of my time in college (maybe mid-eighties or so, I dunno). It wasn't IR, but it was Seka looking very fresh and young, but I was already into so many other chicks that I don't think I ever saw it. I think that's my problem with porn in general and the pacing of careers. For the girls who have connected with the audience like Ginger Lynn, Nina Hartley, Belladonna, Jenna, etc. they can do what they want when they want. And people will still be interested. But if you're flash in the pan, in it for a few bucks kind of girls, they simply don't tend to get that same fan loyalty and they can follow the annoying porn career rollout plan to a tee (start out girl-girl, work only with boyfriend, work only with white guys, get bad boob job, start doing anal, start doing DP, start doing creampies, start doing gangbangs and then doing IR) but it won't matter because by the time they get to phase two or three, a lot of the audience stops caring. There's a thousand new girls every year in porn and many of them are just as hot as these girls with the calculated careers. A girl like Sasha Grey or Tori Black who gives a great performance can succeed without boob jobs and without arbitrary limits. So in the end I don't like the idea simply it makes more sense to me that these girls strike while the iron's hot. I would wager most guys can't name more than about twenty five girls if you ask them for their favorite scenes in five minutes or less. There are girls you like and girls you'll watch, but for the most part, the really good ones are a rarer breed.
Most porn starlets don't do IR like this because the only way to tuck it away in your vault is if you pay for and produce the scene as exclusive content, and then actually stay in the industry another five years and have a big enough name to release it. Financially, I would say it would only be worth it if the girl had a big enough name to release it onto her own DVD, and then onto her official site after her DVD releases. If a girl is willing to take that gamble though, you just gave some great advice that has honestly never even crossed my mind as an option.
[Link]
Master D Deactivated User
516 Posts 1/10
Posted - May 16 2010 : 1:50AM
Well let me put my two cents into this, sure we want to she these girls do IR in there early years and not in there MiLF years. But look at the girl who are doing IR from the started who loved black men since day one. Tori Black and KLK are brotha lovers for life but you know how these agent are. They will tell these girl not to do it because it will hurt your career but when a black girl does IR it ok for them. Man there are good black perfomrer in porn like Lex, Sean, and Marcus because they are A-lists performer have work with alot of the top female in porn. Pluse they win alot of AVN award in there resume and are hired by major company like Vivid, Evil Angel, Jules Jordan Video, and Brazzers. We are still have the Jenna Jameson thing that she was famous but didn't do IR which alot of IR fans will called her I won't say it but you know it means. Look at Tori Black, Jenna Hazes, Kagney Linn Karter who will do IR soon, Sasha Grey, and others will be the next big pornstar who girls will follow there lead. Sure Sasha Grey is now going to be bigger because She did something unlike Jenna Jameson did is in a major role in an TV show. She did IR, pluse ganbanged and it didn't hurt her career. These upcoming girls can learn from her and follow her lead.
Why would it be such a major expenditure? If a girl did a DVD where she performed 3 or so sex acts she's never done before, in a documentary style (most porn isn't terribly well set up anyway...), the only real cost would be male talent, wouldn't it? ?You don't have pay yourself Honestly as Buck Adams Monkey Gangbang showed us, you can have anybody filming a scene...
You're rite, it is a gamble but.....if the starlet does finance the scene and keeps it a secret, the reward would be tremendous compared to her investment!