Transsexual means they have completely made the transition from one gender to the other. Pre-op transsexual means they are in the middle of the process but have not yet had the final operation(s).
Essentially a pre-op transsexual male-to-female is taking hormones, has breasts, is living pretty much all the time as a female, but still has a fully-functional penis.
Many transsexual male-to-females still have a somewhat manly look, even years after the operations. Some are exceptionally believable as women. The only way you can tell for sure is a glimpse at their "equipment."
ShiWarrior -- a full "male to female" transexual would have taken the hormones to develop breasts, would have lived daily life as a woman, and then would have proceeded to have the penis surgically removed and had some of the female organs (vagina and labia) surgically constructed (though no uterus and ovaries, so it would not be possible to have kids after the operation).
A lot of transexuals never have the operation, they just stay at the 'pre-op' stage.
There are also "female to male" transexuals; I suspect you are not interested in those.
no offence to Kimi and co. but your explanations are good, and it hit other areas, but Lindi's reply, hit the nail on the head (or is it tounge?) and now i understand but when you see a porn film with Transexuals, tey are mostlly pre-op stage then?
thank you all
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ShiWarrior -- when guys discuss tranny films, they are talking about pre-op trannies, 'chicks with dicks,' who are born male, and have taken the hormones.
I answered the question I thought you were asking "What is a pre-op?". I didn't realize the question you needed answered was "How do I know if there is still a penis involved?".
As for http://www.farrahsfantasies.moonfruit.com/ - did you read the "All About Farrah" page? She states very clearly that she is "fully-functional" with "8 inches" and "can play both roles in the bedroom" - ummm... what did you think these things meant?
Valentino, are these fetish titles? Do they put a speculum into the neovagina so you can see there is no cervix? I can't tell the difference between a post-op MTF transsexual's external genitalia and a (drat, what is the preferred term?) biological, non-transsexual female's, so I am curious as to what the angle on these films is.
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Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 4:07PM
First of all, they are EXTREMELY rare in my experience. They aren't fetish titles. The post-op is just like an 'extra treat'on the film, the emphasis is not on her. Of course there are some 'pussy shots', but the dicks in the scene get more attention.
On the Post-op TS films I've seen, there were no speculums involved. As for the differemce in genitalia, I have seen a Post-op with somewhat larger clitoris, but that is one the deficiencies that can occur after a first operation. They'll usually get fixed not too long after that.
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Thanks for the info. I personally think it would be an interesting sight, if anyone ever shoots it. Not as a turn on, but just because it'd be fascinating.
Actually, I think it would be even more interesting to see an explicit/hardcore documentary where you see a pre-op have sex, then see her after her surgery having sex.
Hmmm...I spent several introspective moments (now my brain friggin' hurts !) trying to figure this out. Basically, the fact of one person transforming himself (to a herself) in such an extreme manner, and being willing to let others see the journey, would be the reason.
Also, I would find the reverse (FTM) interesting as well. I know there is a movie Trannyfags about FTMs who are sexually into men, but I don't think any of the stars of the movie have had a phalloplasty. At any rate, I haven't seen it (yet, maybe someday.)
Valentino, Thanks for the info, but I am super-squeamish about watching actual surgeries. My grandfather was a surgeon, but I didn't inherit his temperament!
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Ivory, I seem to remember a Lana Woods who was a post-op transexual. She was in Kinky Debutante Interviews 1 . I think she did a gang-bang. She was in some other movies too, but that was the VHS era and I don't remember the others. She did some photo layouts for Private , can't say which magazine title of theirs.
Celina Jaitly, the new Goddess...... 448 Posts 8/04
Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 11:57AM
Her name is Gina . She can be seen as a pre-op on many films (Like TS Gangbangers #2 or Tranny Sylvanians for instance) and as a post op on Transsexual Heart Breakers #2.
I also remember that she was on a episode of Playboy TV's Sex Court (as a pre-op).
Except for a few photo sets, I haven't seen anything of her afters TSHB #2.
''Nature never deceives us; it is we who deceive ourselves. ''
A preop transsexual is free much a male to female transsexual who is on female homos to help grow breast so they can get a good start to get breast implants I thought I had the south skin looking stuff like that but they mainly are different from homosexual reassignment princess room and the fact that they want to keep their penis something that I've been intrigued with 40 gosh our 30 years that I haven't really been feeling like that's what I want to be is a preop with all I'm glad you're expanding your horizons and checking things out female warrior soldiers anything else I could possibly help you on the subject please let me know all right until then have a nice day