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nietzsche
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Posted - Sep 19 2003 : 8:31AM
I was so intrigued by something Kimi Lixx posted
on another thread about life on the set on an adult film, that I was motivated use it as the basis of another thread. I think it's worth some discussion. She was contrasting life on the set of a Japanese production vs a North American production:
I can say that these tangential remarks certainly took a lot of the romance out of it for me. It was surprising to hear that North American sets are so disorganized. I'm curious as to why they are disorganized. Are productions poorly planned? Budgets too small? Are there a lot of fuckups hanging around on the set? It is performers or the guys behing the scenes generally who are at fault? Are a lot of people stoned or drunk?

What kind of rudeness and yelling do you have to endure? What sorts of things are said?

I'm dying to hear the answers from the regular performers and directors who post on this forum. Seriously. And don't sugar coat it.

Edited by - nietzsche on Sep 19 2003

Saki
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Posted - Sep 19 2003 : 10:02AM
I can't generalize anything since I've only been on two sets (and both of them were features), but I think it has a lot to do with budget, the genre, and who's shooting.

If you watch "Family Business" on Showtime about how Seymore Butts makes his movies, it's almost always made up on the fly and rushed. Contrast that to a Wicked mega production with multiple shooting days and a bona fide script, and the level of organization is much higher.

As far as the rude remarks and meat puppet comments, I would propose that that has more to do with the genre and director than any sort of general "American porn" custom.

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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Sep 20 2003 : 2:30AM
I think Saki is very much on target.
Perhaps some U.S. sets are disorganized simply because they can be.
But for a feature, if things are disorganized, it will show from beginnning to end.

I don't know. Just an opinion.

cal444
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Posted - Sep 20 2003 : 4:06AM
It's acutally pathetic American girls can only pull off about 30% of what they claim they can do. The European girls can do what ever you want but they're like soulesss
robots. End result is 50% of American scenes get canned because of unfulfilled promises. And 20% of the Eoropean scenes get canned because of soulless minion affliction.
Take that as you may but it's probably pretty accurate.

Cal444
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ObiBong
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Posted - Sep 20 2003 : 4:13AM
Seriously? Like, what kind of failed promises? When you say this I imagine someone saying they'll do a DAP but being unable to accomplish it, but 50 percent is a high number. Do you mean more mundane stuff like promising to show up? And do you mean that hours of footage are just getting thrown out?

Very curious.

 
PornBoy
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Posted - Sep 20 2003 : 3:53PM
ObiBong nice pic are you a fan of Alan Moore's Watchmen?
cal444
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Posted - Sep 20 2003 : 10:55PM
It's a combination of all of the above, chicks show up all useless because of the nights before activities, or you need a good solid dp to finish off your flixxx and they just can't pull it off, just about any combination of thing that can go wrong will and usually do go wrong from guys with half hard ons to girls showing up to your set all sore from the scene they'd done from the day before for another director but still expect your shoot to suffer because they over book themselves. It's really a crap shoot at best sometimes you get lucky but it's much more likely to go the other way. Best laid plans of mice and men...

Cal444
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shameless
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Posted - Sep 23 2003 : 2:51PM
Though I like the work ethos of those girls over booking themselfs, I wonder:
- Why do they over book themselfs?
- Why do they get sore that easily?

I guess in US you'd need a broader talent pool, yes? Or just pay them much better...?

DenverDon
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Posted - Sep 23 2003 : 3:25PM
Sheesh, ... never miss an opportunity about the pay. Even paying more doesn't reduce the soreness.

DenverDon

shameless
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Posted - Sep 25 2003 : 3:57AM
Denver, I would think, if they get more money per scene, than they might work a little less, i.e. dont overbook themselfs that much. The soreness in this case could heal until next scene.

Does this sound logical to you?

SelenaSilver
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529 Posts
7/03
Posted - Sep 25 2003 : 4:43AM
nietzsche,

I don't think the sets are as unromantic as you may be afraid from your post. :)

The disorganization on the sets I have worked on seems to come from people being late - whether a porn star was late (which happens) so the crew and director sit around waiting or whether the crew and director got to the set at the same time they told the talent to get there so the talent sits around (which happens). Disorganization is mostly about timeleness.

As far as how people treat each other - my experience has never been like that posted. I have never been on a set with people drunk and yelling at each other. I have never had the director being rude to me.

I have been treated very well and very professionally. I have not shot one movie for a director that I would not work with again. And, I must be doing okay because over 80% of the companies I have shot with have booked me and shot me again.

The biggest thing that surprised me about this business was how nice and normal most of the people are in it. Don't get me wrong - there are some total scumbags at the bottom - but, I think way too many people think that is the whole industry and that is just not true.

Some of the attention to detail and organization is simply amazing, btw.

For example, Robby Fischer (Red Light) is incredibly organized. He even has a giant poster pre-planned for the girls of all the poses he wants so when he shoots he can point and say give me #79. How awesome is that?

Others like Joey Silvera have shot for so long and have such a clear vision that they don't have to pre-plan the last detail - they can get a feel for the girl, the costume, and the location and make it up on the fly and have it turn out totaly exactly what they wanted.

Cal444 is right that too many of us porn girls don't put enough professionalism into the job. There are too many flakes, or too many showing up strung-out, etc., or just showing up late. I understand his frustration.

I don't know how much you can expect from an industry of mostly 18-24 year olds who may be out on their own for the very first time with men plying them with money, drugs, drinks - whatever it takes to get those sexual favors.

But, as a porn girl I wish that as a whole we could be more reliable for directors. I can tell you that I have never been to a set late EVER, I have never shown up drunk or strung out. I take this very seriously and I am very professional about what I do. And, there are MANY girls like me.

Go back to your fantasies Nietzsche - it isn't a hell hole place to be on set. It (for me anyway) is a fun, sexy, and high-energy place to be.

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skronker
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Posted - Sep 25 2003 : 11:46AM
Hey Selena!

I like some of Robbie's movies, but gimme Joey's approach any day! Of course, there are only a few "masters" in the business.

I do kinda like the idea of "#79" though -- kinda like the ice cream place I worked at in high school, where all the flavors were assigned a number. Hmmm, there's a scene idea: The Baskin-Robbins of sex! Will that be one scoop ... or two?

Edited by - skronker on 9/25/2003 11:47:21 AM

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