I was recently having a discussion between some porn aficionados and one of my buddies strongly believes that performers that only do girl-girl should not be considered porn stars...
In my book, a porn star is defined by having sex with another person on film in a professional setting... so girl/girl and boy/girl- both are porn stars.
I just want to get everyone's opinion on this including porn stars that only do girl-girl...
For example, where does Charlie Laine and Sunny Leone fall?
If they're popular enough to convince a good number of pornsumers to buy a title because they're in it, then they're a pornstar. Extra points for lots of boxcovers, a contract with any company, etc.
G/G wouldn't even figure into the equation. Most of Janine's career is testament to that.
I think that there are different levels of stardom.
There's the girl who lights up the industry for a year so everybody knows her but in that case her longevity is questionable. Then there are solid stars who have been doing their thing successfully for at least a few years. Then there are legends.
All are stars to a varying degree but I think in the end it comes down to two things: money and fanbase.
I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON YOUR DEFINITION OF "PORN STAR", ARE YOU SPEAKING GENERALLY ON THE PEOPLE THAT COMMAND AN AUDIENCE OR ON THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE? I FEEL THAT THERE ARE MANY PORN ACTORS/ACTRESSES BUT ONLY A FEW STARS. A PORN STAR, TO ME, IS SOMEONE WHO HAS CREATED A BUZZ ABOUT THEIR PRODUCT AND MAINTAINED A CERTAIN SUCCESS ALONG WITH A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. I SWEAR THAT ALOT OF PORN PARTICIPANTS FORGET THAT THIS IS A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY. MOST STARS, MIGHT LOOK GOOD TO THE NAKED CONSUMER EYE BUT WITHOUT MUCH OF A FOUNDATION OR STRUCTURE....WELL, THEY'RE JUST GETTING PAID FOR THE DAY. BELLADONNA, SHE IS A STAR! LEXINGTON STEELE, JUSTIN SLAYER...THOSE BROTHA'S ARE STARS. MOST PEOPLE IN PORN HAVE BECOME HAPPY WITH THE HYPE (THE VERBAL BUZZ IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM), VINCE VOYUER IS A STAR!!!
Hard worker with a voluminus history of work. A personal style and appeal. Instantly identifiable. Devoted fan following. Worldwide acclaim and recognition. Works across most genres in porn. Admired and respected at all levels of her industry, inside and out. Very professional. Tirelessly promotes her industry as well as herself. Accessable and gracious to her fans. Seems willing to share her knowledge and experiences with newer performers. Despite being a huge star, she doesn't seem to have gotten caught up in the excesses of her industry. Always respects herself, and has not let herself become a caricature or cartoon for others.
And, although this is a side issue, and not really germane to the "star" discussion, she doesn't seem to generate the negative image and backlash that many other stars of her rank do.
Katja Kassin is the description of porn success, and the very definition of Porn Star.
I think any girl that appears in a porn scene is a star. Even if it’s just one. She is the reason we bother to watch, she commands the attention. Even in girl/girl.
I don’t mean to disrespect the men in porn. My interest in males stars is can they present the girl to the camera, can they bring out her passion, can they expand her desire.
Now I do think there is varying degrees of stardom. Katja Kassin is the defination of a super star, Jewel DeNile, is a super star so is Sandra Romain.
Any girl that has sex on camera for her pleasure and my viewing enjoyment is special to me.
For me girls are real pornstars if they do interracial. I can't accept a girl as a pornstar if her limit is no-interracial. I avoid their movies no matter how hot they are (read Carmen Kingsley).
My definition of a star is the same with mainstream. A "star" is someone whose name can sell the product. If you put "Asia Carrera" on the DVD cover, a certain number of people will buy it because of AC. If you put someone obscure on the cover, people will use other criteria to choose whether to buy (or view).
If your performer has name recognition and can sell a product simply by his or her appearance, he or she is a star. Otherwise, no.
Damn- I guess everyone does have their own definition of a porn star!
But is a gg star considered one? I don't believe people who do solo masturbation scenes should be considered porn stars unless they have been on camera with another partner in a film....
So going back to one of my questions, where does this leave sunny leone and charlie laine- these are two penthouse pets that do more of the hardcore girl-girl scenese
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Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 11:53PM
You're right. It worked before. Sorry.
The link was to Bree Olson. She's kind of taking the industry by storm right now. There are a ton of links for her on freeones.com.
I believe both Sunny and Charile or any other girl/girl scene are pornstars. Tho its disapponting not seeing them take some meat, but they do enough for them to be consider porn starlets.
Sandee westgate is another 1 , avoidng the schlong.
Katja is the type of star this industry needs. It is a shame that she is not marketed at the same level the Jenna Jamesons and Tera Patricks are. A great talent!
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Posted - Apr 1 2007 : 1:32AM
[Hijack] Hey, N.Y.P.D., with a screen name like that, why don't you weigh in on THIS THREAD about Ronell Wilson. I'd love to hear your perspective. [/Hijack]
Sorry folks but he doesn't have his e-mail turned on. Back to your regularly scheduled programing...